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Really? More disrespectful than when Clemens threw the bat at Piazza? More disrespectful than when Rick Bossetti(?) pissed in the OF? More disrespectful than http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7CCga0nbG8? And those are things that actually happened, so we don't have even have to imagine them.
And by "strong" I mean I get it.
What a load of sanctimonious $@$#^&.
It's also clear that ANYONE can find fault with a sentence in an article.
That being the case, Buscema looks like he will come around on Raines and Blyleven in the near future (I don't think Rice is getting in, so Buscema'll probably keep on voting for him).
He's certainly not infatuated with Morris or Concepción, so he's not too far away from getting to the promised land.
Goose Gossage.
Jim Rice.
Wow.
Both could go in this year, too. In face, Gossage will go in. I wonder if he'll vote for anyone next year. My hunch is that he'll find someone else on the ballot to come around on. Especially since he admits serious consideration for Raines, Blyleven, and Dawson.
Blyleven is one, as his 287 wins, devastating curve ball and consistently low ERA will make me seek out some of his contemporaries to discuss him this year.
Paging Rich Lederer. . . .
Well, hello. How can I be smarter than all you dumb-asses who don't rate a HoF ballot if I don't mind-#### the whole thing?
I can imagine quite a bit.
And, uh, I know it's called "speed", but AFAIK no one believes methamphetamines actually make you faster.
Anybody want to take a guess? Hint: it's not about a particular player.
Not that that's a good reason, but I can understand the sentiment. We like to imagine these games as being pure tests of skill, untainted by the outside world. Finding out he had cocaine in his pocket kinda ##### with your nostalgia trip, for a sentimental kind of person.
Which raises the question: do players that allow their chewing tobacco or sunflower seeds to affect their manner of play also rank with Raines as the most disrespectful imagineable? There must be dozens of runners that have slid headfirst to avoid incurring the tin Skohl container's wrath.
I guess if you leave out Henderson and Raines, I would agree.
Sure, I'll take a swing at it. How about this one:
"Amazingly, they are the players my instinct initially told me to select."
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Well, Rice's prime (as has been mentioned ad nauseum around here) was 1977-79, which pre-dates Henderson and Raines by a few years. Without thinking too hard (so I might be forgetting someone), Rice probably is the best left-fielder in baseball from 1977-79, maybe even 1975-79. Of course, 3-5 years isn't much of an "era".
But in paving the way for future pitchers by rehabbing from the arm surgery named for him, I’m going to give him a closer look next year.
He's trying to rewrite Hall standards to suit his personal taste.
He's probably not the only one -- the excuses writers have come up with to exclude Raines have been remarkably creative, from Vince Coleman comparisons to headfirst slides to turning his high stolen-base percentage into a negative...
To me, that summarizes in an incredibly few words the problem with the typical voter: he has a gut feeling, spends hours and hours considering the issues . . . and winds up right where he started. I do appreciate the efforts, and I know that voters do occasionally change their minds after doing the work. But most of the time they've already made up their minds and there ain't nothing changing them.
Anyhoo, this column fits right into the theme of the movie.
Making up my own standards is sure fun!
* Please don't take me up on this. Just making a point. :-)
George Foster says hi.
Not to hijack the thread, but is there more of a dime's difference between Rice and Foster? Not that either could carry Raines' jock (or coke vial).
No (hey, I said I wasn't thinking too hard). If anything, my impression is that the NL was the tougher league in the late '70s, which would probably put Foster on top. And, of course, expanding the list to include ALL corner outfielders you get Dave Parker beating Rice over Rice's peak and Ken Singleton making a pretty decent argument (again, just off the top of my head). I certainly didn't mean to imply that this was a good reason to elect Jim Rice to the Hall of Fame.
Agreed completely, but it alternately fascinates and baffles me that HoF voters fixate on a particular candidate (see Bruce Sutter or Tony Perez) while ignoring (or having ignored previously) players of equal or greater value.
Sigh. One day we might see writers go out and practice what they preach (ie: not shooting the messenger when someone confesses) but I am not holding my breath.
Also, chalk this article up as another example of amphetamines being mentioned to bash an 80s/90s player. Amphetamines must be pretty damn magical things. After starting out as a Tang/KoolAid hybrid, such as the harmless Mountain Berry Punch that Mays was giving out, sometime around 1979-1981, amphetamines somehow acquired performance-enhancing properties.
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