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Thursday, December 13, 2007

TSN: Pinto: After trades, stat work says Tigers still trail Yankees, Red Sox

Holy Hypodermias!  A Mitchellist-free article!

Players with career years likely will fall back to their career norms. Hitters with off years in ‘07 likely will improve. Older players might decline because of age, while someone like Cabrera still is young enough to expect improvement.

There are a number of such prediction systems available for players. One of the oldest is published in the Bill James Handbook every year, and those numbers form the basis of the prediction.

One of the tools available at BaseballMusings.com allows the analysis of lineups. Cyril Morong, Ken Arneson and Ryan Armbrust used hidden Markov models to determine how many runs a given lineup would score given each player’s on-base average and slugging percentage. As a side effect, it also can determine the best lineup for a team. Their work was incorporated into the lineup analysis tool.

Repoz Posted: December 13, 2007 at 09:55 PM | 3 comment(s)
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   1. GuyM  Posted: December 13, 2007 at 10:58 PM (#2645257)
Not the dreaded "lineup tool!" Seriously, I like a lot of what Pinto writes and his site, but the lineup tool just doesn't work. From the article: Those statistics also demonstrate that batting orders don't matter much. The theoretical best lineup only adds 24 runs to Boston's total over a full season instead of the likely lineup. It's the talent on the team that matters, not how you arrange the batters.

"Only" 24 runs? That's 2.5 wins just by moving guys around in the lineup -- probably worth $10-12 million to the Sox. Unfortunately, all the best work done on lineup construction (see, for example, Tango/Lichtman/Dolphin's The Book) shows that changing lineups can only have a much smaller impact on scoring. The lineup tool assumes that each lineup spot has a "multiplier" value, and keeps those values the same even when you mix up the lineup and no longer have the same type of hitter preceding and following that slot. It doesn't make sense, and it doesn't work.
   2. zonk  Posted: December 13, 2007 at 11:06 PM (#2645271)
Holy Hypodermias! A Mitchellist-free article!


Is there a granstand somewhere those of us who tossed a few comments out, but are now weary of the Mitchell threads to watch the races? I've got a $5 trifecta boxed around the Canseco crashing thread, the Clemens outraged thread, the absolving the owners thread.
   3. Nasty Nate  Posted: December 13, 2007 at 11:16 PM (#2645278)
the absolving the owners thread is picking up steam.
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