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Tuesday, January 29, 2008

Twins agree to deal Santana to Mets for prospects

FINALLY!!!!

The New York Mets have agreed to a trade for two-time Cy Young Award winner Johan Santana, giving up four prospects to acquire the left-handed ace of the Minnesota Twins, according to two high-ranking Twins officials with knowledge of the talks and a person close to Santana.

The deal is pending the Mets and Santana reaching agreement on a six- or seven-year contract extension and that Santana passes a physical; they have been granted a 48 to-72-hour window to do so. Santana has a no-trade clause that he will waive if agreement is reached on a contract extension.

The Mets paid a high price in prospects to land Santana, agreeing to send the Twins outfielder Carlos Gomez and pitchers Phil Humber, Deolis Guerra and Kevin Mulvey.

Repoz Posted: January 29, 2008 at 04:37 PM | 412 comment(s)
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401. 1k5v3L Posted: January 30, 2008 at 12:37 PM (#2679852)

Ah, Sam, Sam, I'm trying to join the exclusive club of "certifiables" on this board...

402. Sam M. Posted: January 30, 2008 at 12:41 PM (#2679855)

Hey, Levski -- nothing wrong with fan boyism, in its place. I happen to be positive that the 2008 Mets are going to be the first team since the '71 Orioles to have four 20 game winners. I just can't decide if El Duque will get enough starts to make it a fivesome.

403. AJM Misses Brodeur Posted: January 30, 2008 at 12:41 PM (#2679856)

Wouldn't the fact that Santana would only agree to be traded to the Mets, or to the NL

Someone on ESPN last night mentioned that Santana really likes to hit.

But I think it might have been Phillips who said it, so we can just ignore it.

404. Justin Zeth Posted: January 30, 2008 at 12:43 PM (#2679858)

He could have meant it in the Steve Garvey sense. Hard to tell, with Phillips.

405. 1k5v3L Posted: January 30, 2008 at 12:45 PM (#2679861)

I happen to be positive that the 2008 Mets are going to be the first team since the '71 Orioles to have four 20 game winners.

A cheesehead was arguing the same thing last year about the 2007 Brewers...

406. formerly dp Posted: January 30, 2008 at 12:46 PM (#2679863)

Webb/Haren vs. Santana/Pedro, I think you have to take Arizona b/c Pedro is such an unknown quantity going into this year. But, even as a huge fan of both Webb and Haren, I have concerns about Haren going into that park. Haren took a small step forward last year and solidified his status as a front-line starter, but he could easily regress a bit this year.

I think 1-5 the Met rotation has the edge. Perez as your #4 is great...

407. 1k5v3L Posted: January 30, 2008 at 12:49 PM (#2679869)

If the Dbacks in 2008 don't hit any better than they did in 2007, the Mets could bring Jose Lima, Dave Williams and Brian Lawrence back and it won't make any difference

408. Sam M. Posted: January 30, 2008 at 12:51 PM (#2679872)

I think 1-5 the Met rotation has the edge. Perez as your #4 is great...

Two things about that. First, having Maine and Perez in the 4-5 slots is pretty awesome, no doubt. Of course, that depends on Pedro's health, which I am less convinced than some Mets' fans is "proven," since he never did start on regular rest last year and even on five days rest pitched only a handful of times. There's still a lot to prove in terms of durability over the long haul.

Second, pushing El Duque all the way back to # 5 in and of itself pays dividends. Early in the season, when you don't necessarily need your fifth starter on a regular basis, the Mets could use him out of the pen at times, and save him innings and wear & tear. The less he is used, the better the odds he holds up later in the season.

409. 1k5v3L Posted: January 30, 2008 at 12:53 PM (#2679874)

When El Duque was in Arizona, he complained about being bumped off a regular starter's schedule, and had choice words for Melvin when the Dbacks wanted him to skip a start. The guy may be old as dirt, but his competitive fires are burning strong...

410. formerly dp Posted: January 30, 2008 at 12:57 PM (#2679876)

Very good point Sam. I was assuming Maine/Perez 4-5 though. Duque needs to have his innings limited, even if he's not necessarily happy about it. One (huge?) question- do they try to turn Pelfrey into a set-up man at least for 2008 and hope he becomes Heilman? He'll get some work this year as a #6 starter, but what do you do with him long-term?

411. MSI Posted: January 30, 2008 at 05:13 PM (#2680189)

I haven't seen this mentioned a lot, but what does everyone think of this:

"According to the Bergen Record's Bob Klapisch, the Twins came back to the Yankees with an offer of Johan Santana for Melky Cabrera, Ian Kennedy and a prospect on Monday, only to be turned down.
If true, the Yankees declined the chance to acquire Santana without giving up Phil Hughes or Joba Chamberlain. Klapisch also believes the Red Sox had both Jacoby Ellsbury and Jon Lester off the table by the time the Twins chose to accept the Mets' offer." From Rotoworld.

They could have gotten Santana and drastically improved their pitching for years, without giving up Hughes or Chamberlain. I'd say they blew it there.

412. JPWF13 Posted: January 30, 2008 at 05:21 PM (#2680209)

do they try to turn Pelfrey into a set-up man at least for 2008 and hope he becomes Heilman?

No in an ideal world, they turn him into a set-up man in the hopes he becomes Heilman now and a closer later, and they use Heilamn as a spot starter and old fashioned long man (fewer apps more ip per app)

413. Exploring Leftist Conservatism since 2008 (ark..) Posted: February 01, 2008 at 09:33 AM (#2681479)

When El Duque was in Arizona, he complained about being bumped off a regular starter's schedule, and had choice words for Melvin when the Dbacks wanted him to skip a start. The guy may be old as dirt, but his competitive fires are burning strong...

I'm not sure I'd give much of a damn about this, were I the Mets FO. What I'd care about is, how did he pitch off schedule?

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