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Wednesday, November 04, 2009

Village Voice: Series Returns to Bronx, Bringing Thin Trickle of Business to Local Merchants

The surprise here should be that anyone is surprised. “What a shocker!” exclaimed sports economist Robert Baade of Lake Forest College when he was told that Yankee neighbors are suffering. “When you look at this new generation of stadiums, they’re little walled cities. They’re trying to capture as much spending as possible inside the stadium, and that really works against spillover to the neighborhoods. Why go out into the neighborhood if you can get everything you want right there?”

Joyce Hogi, a Grand Concourse resident who was one of the leading opponents of the Yanks’ stadium project (and who warned in Congressional testimony two years ago that the new eatery-packed edifice could hurt local businesses), says it’s “regrettable” that many local merchants testified in favor of the project, thinking it would help their bottom line. “We tried to show them how the plans were drawn up to shepherd fans from the garages and trains right into the stadium,” she says. Sure enough, she continues, this season “from the first day, the police put up barricades and would not even let fans walk up the street.”

Meanwhile, there are worries that things could get even worse for local stores, thanks to a rezoning of 161st Street that was quietly pushed through the city land-use process and approved by the city council last month. In zoningspeak, the new district replaces much of the 161st Street shopping corridor’s old C8-3 designation (no housing, only low-scale commercial) with a new C6-3D zone, allowing residential or commercial buildings with a floor area ratio of 9 — which in practice could mean a 20-story condo tower rising on the site of Stan’s Sports Bar. But we’re sure that if that ever happened, they’d bring the ghosts with them.

Nooo…not Stan’s! (must return and demand back a tiny liver shard I left behind)

Repoz Posted: November 04, 2009 at 06:12 PM | 4 comment(s) | Login to Bookmark
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   1. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: November 04, 2009 at 06:31 PM (#3377514)
with a new C6-3D zone, allowing residential or commercial buildings with a floor area ratio of 9 — which in practice could mean a 20-story condo tower rising on the site of Stan’s Sports Bar. But we’re sure that if that ever happened, they’d bring the ghosts with them.

This is bad? Developing the bronx with mixed use zoning? Sounds great to me.

The rest of the article, yeah, duh...anyone who voted for NYS thinking it would help them or their business was dumb dumb dumb. Hell, there was already a stadium there that drew 4 million fans...how exactly wast this supposed to help?
   2. McCoy Posted: November 04, 2009 at 07:34 PM (#3377649)
Where I used to live in Wisconsin some of the local people have been trying to get a casino for close to twenty years now. I remember talking to a local business woman who actually thought the casino would be good for her business since she thought it would bring new people to the area. She didn't really consider that her place wasn't even close to where the casino was and she was oblivious to the fact that casinos are giant money vacuums.
   3. Shooty: Applying to be Fearless Leader Posted: November 04, 2009 at 07:42 PM (#3377672)
The rest of the article, yeah, duh...anyone who voted for NYS thinking it would help them or their business was dumb dumb dumb. Hell, there was already a stadium there that drew 4 million fans...how exactly wast this supposed to help?

It's actually not a bad neighborhood to hang out in after a game. There are some cool Dominican bars and such. It was pretty obvious NYS was designed to screw over local businesses. How was this not obvious to everyone? I'm only surprised they didn't manage to shoehorn a bowling alley into NYS.
   4. TVerik, AKA Snoopy Snoopy Poop Dog Posted: November 04, 2009 at 11:12 PM (#3377989)
McCoy, at least a new casino would be a destination for new people to come to the area. As WJ states, how many new people are going to come to the Bronx because of NYS? I don't see how that edifice can increase foot traffic and impulse shopping.
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