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Washington Times: Baseball researchers throw D.C. stats-fest

Hundreds of baseball fans from across the country gathered in the District on Thursday to dwell on these historical tidbits, among others, at the first full day of events at the 39th annual Society of American Baseball Research (SABR) convention.

There were historians. There were statheads. There were guys wearing T-shirts and caps of teams ranging from the Oakland Athletics to the Kansas City Monarchs.

...There will be 42 presentations in all - SABR had to reject another 47 because of a lack of space - with an equal mixture of historical research and statistical findings. Each of the four days will end with a trivia contest or a bus trip to an area ballgame. In between will be long conversations and healthy debates over everything from the Hall of Fame credentials of Bert Blyleven to the importance of clutch hitting.

...SABR members have a perhaps unfair reputation of possessing a nerdy quality, and Thursday’s largely white, male and casually dressed crowd did little to dispel that stereotype. Christina Kahrl, editor of the research site Baseball Prospectus and a keynote speaker at the convention, compared it to Comic-Con, the recent convention for comic book enthusiasts.

“It’s just about as equally big in terms of cool points,” she said. “But I have no problem getting in touch with my inner geek.”

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1. dirk

Posted: July 31, 2009 at 12:18 PM (#3275313)

sausage party

2. Craig Calcaterra Posted: July 31, 2009 at 12:22 PM (#3275317)

Wait -- that's a pic from last year, right? I'm pretty sure that's my bald head in the green shirt, sitting in the booth with my back to the camera.

3. Repoz

Posted: July 31, 2009 at 12:30 PM (#3275325)

Wait -- that's a pic from last year, right? I'm pretty sure that's my bald head in the green shirt, sitting in the booth with my back to the camera.

Craig, I believe that bald head belongs to Greg Spira.

4. Crashburn Alley Posted: July 31, 2009 at 12:33 PM (#3275331)

There's a difference between nerd and geek. I would say stat-heads, generally speaking, are nerds and not geeks.

[/nerd-geek]

5. Biff isn't really an apt handle anymore Posted: July 31, 2009 at 12:35 PM (#3275333)

NERDS!

6. Bob Dernier Cri

Posted: July 31, 2009 at 12:36 PM (#3275335)

Hmmn ... SABR couture is a little bit better than Modern Language Association, but not a whole lot, to judge from this photo.

7. Van Lingle Mungo Jerry Posted: July 31, 2009 at 12:40 PM (#3275339)

That photo absolutely needs a caption identifying those pictured. If one is not provided, I say we fill in the names ourselves.

8. Jolly Old St. Neck Wound, Moral Idiot

Posted: July 31, 2009 at 12:42 PM (#3275342)

Christina Kahrl, editor of the research site Baseball Prospectus and a keynote speaker at the convention, compared it to Comic-Con, the recent convention for comic book enthusiasts.

That's really a blow below the jellyroll, Christina.

9. Traderdave

Posted: July 31, 2009 at 12:43 PM (#3275345)

A chick at SABR? Pics or it did't happen.

10. Crispix Attacks Posted: July 31, 2009 at 12:45 PM (#3275348)

But there is a pic, and the pic has a chick in it.

11. Dan Szymborski

Posted: July 31, 2009 at 12:45 PM (#3275349)

Some of the people are hard to see, but Anthony Giacalone's in red sitting down, Joe Dimino is to his left, Vinay Kumar's sitting in a yellow-striped shirt, Aaron Gleeman's that head with the Twins hate on the very left, Ben Jacobs is the thin guy next to the window. I probably know the others, but the picture isn't detailed enough.

I'm confused by the presence of a woman. I'd have to buy my better half a car or something to get her to hang around with me and baseball nerds for 5 days.

12. JRVJ (formerly Delta Socrates) Posted: July 31, 2009 at 12:48 PM (#3275352)

The guy may well be the salt of the earth, but my first impression upon seeing the red-haired, bearded guy on the left hand side of the photo was "Damn, that guy looks like a mass murderer/serial rapist/pedophile type".

Apologies to the guy, who I don't know and who surely doesn't deserve this, but that was my first impression.

13. RJ in TO Posted: July 31, 2009 at 12:50 PM (#3275354)

Thanks Dan. I was all prepared to take up Van Lingle's challenge, and suggest really offensive names for all those portrayed.

14. Shooty: Applying to be Fearless Leader

Posted: July 31, 2009 at 12:51 PM (#3275357)

"Damn, that guy looks like a mass murderer/serial rapist/pedophile type".

He looks like a cable serviceman really sad about the new competition from Verizon FIOS to me.

15. Van Lingle Mungo Jerry Posted: July 31, 2009 at 12:52 PM (#3275359)

I suspect the big guy on the left is Rob Base in very deep disguise.

16. Repoz

Posted: July 31, 2009 at 12:52 PM (#3275360)

I probably know the others

Included...

Me
Treder
MHS
Greg Spira
Magnum
Studes
Furtado
Webber
Dimino

but my first impression upon seeing the red-haired, bearded guy on the left hand side of the photo was "Damn, that guy looks like a mass murderer/serial rapist/pedophile type".

You have noooo idea.

17. Shooty: Applying to be Fearless Leader

Posted: July 31, 2009 at 12:55 PM (#3275370)

Really, there's nothing nerdy about that picture. No one is dressed up like Tony Bernazard in a 1980's Indians uniform or like Connie Mack. It looks like your standard Log Cabin Republican meeting to me.

18. Traderdave

Posted: July 31, 2009 at 12:55 PM (#3275371)

but my first impression upon seeing the red-haired, bearded guy on the left hand side of the photo was "Damn, that guy looks like a mass murderer/serial rapist/pedophile type".

He's a dead ringer for a co-worker of mine. So close that if I didn't know it was a SABR pic, I'd bet money it was him.

19. JRVJ (formerly Delta Socrates) Posted: July 31, 2009 at 01:00 PM (#3275380)

I don't know if any of you are Sandman fans, but thinking it through, I think I've confused this poor guy with Fun Land, from The Doll's House storyline.

20. Dan Szymborski

Posted: July 31, 2009 at 01:06 PM (#3275384)

Yeah, I thought that was Furtado but I couldn't see a face there so I wasn't sure.

I see the others (that I have met at least), but where's Rosey?

21. Sam Hutcheson is the 'saur with the rainbow roar Posted: July 31, 2009 at 01:07 PM (#3275387)

Starting on left of the frame, seated on the couch:

Anthony Giacalone, Joe Dimino, Darren V, Jimmy Furtado. Not sure about the guy next to Jim in front of the window, but I'm pretty sure the next guy over is Studes. Wrapping around to the guys with their backs to the camera, I'm not sure about the first one but the guy at the arm of the couch is Greg Spira. Vinay is the guy with the goofy grin sitting closest to the alcohol table (facing the camera.) I would ASSUME the woman is Christina Karhl but I have no idea for certain. Dial brought his wife and kid last year so there have been female sightings at the event before.

The red-headed beard guy I don't remember for names, but he was in Cleveland last year too.

Dial is not in this photo. Perhaps he was shooting his mythical (in every sense of the term) hole-in-one.

22. DL from MN Posted: July 31, 2009 at 01:09 PM (#3275389)

Guess this is the week Mom cleans the basement...

23. Jeff K. Posted: July 31, 2009 at 01:11 PM (#3275395)

You guys didn't even get in the Post? I'd say I'll be sure to follow the coverage, but I don't get down to the airport's "Crazy Cult Rag" section all that often, so the Times doesn't make my list.

24. Repoz

Posted: July 31, 2009 at 01:15 PM (#3275402)

Not sure about the guy next to Jim in front of the window

That's Steve Treder.

but I'm pretty sure the next guy over is Studes.

That's Ben Jacobs

I would ASSUME the woman is Christina Karhl but I have no idea for certain

I'm pretty sure that's Ben Jacob's wife, Stacy (?).

25. Jeff K. Posted: July 31, 2009 at 01:15 PM (#3275403)

Also, the redheaded guy:

1) Is also a dead ringer for one of my coworkers
2) Is drinking something with a HUGE lime
3) Looks like he's been Photoshopped in, like the tourist guy in the 9/11 pictures

26. Jeff K. Posted: July 31, 2009 at 01:16 PM (#3275404)

I'm pretty sure that's Ben Jacob's wife, Stacy (?).

Sam, open mouth, insert foot...

27. Sam Hutcheson is the 'saur with the rainbow roar Posted: July 31, 2009 at 01:16 PM (#3275405)

As much as I agree with you on the proper place of Moonies in this world, and as useless as the Times' political coverage is, the reason the paper exists and has a readership is that, unlike the Post, it treats DC as if it's a real city with real people living there, and not just the place where all of the movers and shakers of the political game choose for meet-ups.

28. Sam Hutcheson is the 'saur with the rainbow roar Posted: July 31, 2009 at 01:17 PM (#3275411)

Sam, open mouth, insert foot...

Not sure why this is a faux pas on my part but really, I'm fine with the taste of my own foot at this point regardless.

29. Jeff K. Posted: July 31, 2009 at 01:19 PM (#3275414)

Not sure why this is a faux pas on my part

Think about it for another few seconds.

30. Shredder Posted: July 31, 2009 at 01:20 PM (#3275420)

The only guy I recognized right away was Vinay. Dimino had a drink in his face and was too far away, and he's just a little guy to begin with.

31. Sam Hutcheson is the 'saur with the rainbow roar Posted: July 31, 2009 at 01:24 PM (#3275429)

Think about it for another few seconds.

Nope. I took a wild guess as to who the lone female in the picture might be. Nothing really weird about that, IMHO.

32. Dan Szymborski

Posted: July 31, 2009 at 01:25 PM (#3275433)

Dimino had a drink in his face

At SABR conventions, learning what people look like with drinks in their face comes first.

After Toronto, I couldn't drink for a few weeks. I literally had a DUI level-of-alcohol in my bloodstream 24/7 for 4 days.

33. Ball Point Pen Guy (Will Young) Posted: July 31, 2009 at 01:29 PM (#3275440)

After Toronto, I couldn't drink for a few weeks. I literally had a DUI level-of-alcohol in my bloodstream 24/7 for 4 days.

Yet, you were my driver back for a 12-hour car ride!

Also, let me know when the 2011 site is set. Fingers crossed for Minnesota so we can party at Gleeman's!

34. Dan Szymborski

Posted: July 31, 2009 at 01:30 PM (#3275442)

Yet, you were my driver back for a 12-hour car ride!

Don't worry, my last drink was a mini-vodka at 8 AM on Sunday!

35. Repoz

Posted: July 31, 2009 at 01:33 PM (#3275447)

Also, let me know when the 2011 site is set.

SABR 2011 is in SoCal...

36. Mefisto Posted: July 31, 2009 at 01:34 PM (#3275449)

Aaron Gleeman's that head with the Twins hate

Freudian slip?

37. CW hits the pinata for the candy Posted: July 31, 2009 at 01:37 PM (#3275455)

It looks like your standard Log Cabin Republican meeting to me.

Primey!

38. Guapo Posted: July 31, 2009 at 01:50 PM (#3275469)

SABR is in town? Sheeeeeeet! Where are you guys drinking tonight?

39. Obama Bomaye Posted: July 31, 2009 at 02:04 PM (#3275481)

He looks like a cable serviceman really sad about the new competition from Verizon FIOS to me.

Well played.

40. Kurt Posted: July 31, 2009 at 02:15 PM (#3275504)

So I'm the only one whose response to the guy on the left was to hum the opening bars of Aqualung?

41. Van Lingle Mungo Jerry Posted: July 31, 2009 at 02:20 PM (#3275512)

So I'm the only one whose response to the guy on the left was to hum the opening bars of Aqualung?

Well, his clothes are shabby, but I couldn't tell whether his fingers are greasy. Also, while he's clearly eying something off-camera with bad intent, there's no indication that there were little girls in the room.

42. Quiet Flows the Don Taussig Avenger (Edmundo)

Posted: July 31, 2009 at 02:26 PM (#3275524)

And it looks like he's working up a loogy made up of pieces of his broken luck

43. Bad Doctor Posted: July 31, 2009 at 02:28 PM (#3275526)

It looks like your standard Log Cabin Republican meeting to me.

Best laugh I've had all week, and on the heels of the Ortiz thread, that's saying something.

44. Lassus: Posted: July 31, 2009 at 02:32 PM (#3275532)

SABR 2011 is in SoCal...

If it's the same weekend as comic-con, it's going to open up a black hole of nerd down there from which no one will escape.

45. Red-Headed Beard Guy Posted: July 31, 2009 at 02:34 PM (#3275534)

So who am I?

46. Quiet Flows the Don Taussig Avenger (Edmundo)

Posted: July 31, 2009 at 02:39 PM (#3275540)

RHBG, very nice bio. :)

47. ess eff Posted: July 31, 2009 at 02:44 PM (#3275546)

And it looks like he's working up a loogy made up of pieces of his broken luck

Well, it's not Tony La Russa then. Cuz he'd leave the loogy in to give up a big hit to a right-hander.

48. Doug's Hopkin off the band wagon Posted: July 31, 2009 at 02:45 PM (#3275549)

So who am I?

Just tell us what's in the backpack first, then maybe we'll start answering YOUR questions.

49. Martin Hemner

Posted: July 31, 2009 at 02:49 PM (#3275566)

So who am I?

I would have guessed the ghost of John Brattain. That's how I always pictured him to look.

50. Red-Headed Beard Guy Posted: July 31, 2009 at 02:54 PM (#3275578)

Just tell us what's in the backpack first, then maybe we'll start answering YOUR questions.

An old baseball mitt (Jim Gantner model), Cheez Doodles, a ticket stub, a wrench, a directional coupler, Gummi Bears, a couple broken barrettes, and a sweat band. That's most of it.

51. Guapo Posted: July 31, 2009 at 02:56 PM (#3275586)

Red-Headed Beard Guy is a wolfpack of one.

52. Doug's Hopkin off the band wagon Posted: July 31, 2009 at 03:03 PM (#3275599)

Red-Headed Beard Guy is a Black Swan Event.

Or...

the redheaded guy:

1) Is also a dead ringer for one of my coworkers

the exact opposite.

Husky SABR creep,
They call him Big Ginger,
Sippin on gin and tonic.

Backpack!

With his eyes on "his" honeys, OBP on his mind.

53. Red-Headed Beard Guy Posted: July 31, 2009 at 03:08 PM (#3275610)

Red-Headed Beard Guy is a wolfpack of one.

When Guapo posted, I knew he was one of my own. And my wolf pack... it grew by one.

54. Jeff K. Posted: July 31, 2009 at 03:24 PM (#3275653)

I took a wild guess as to who the lone female in the picture might be.

Would someone else like to spell it out for Sam, or am I the only one who sees this? It's a joke, of course, but still.

55. Sam Hutcheson is the 'saur with the rainbow roar Posted: July 31, 2009 at 03:26 PM (#3275661)

Jeff, I assume you're hinting at Karhl's transgenderism? If so, I fail to see the joke. Karhl is a woman now. That's a woman in the picture. Having no reason to assume that the lone woman in the picture is not one of the few women known to be attending, the guess is reasonable.

56. Doug's Hopkin off the band wagon Posted: July 31, 2009 at 03:38 PM (#3275687)

I would ASSUME the woman is Christina Karhl

That dopey neo-proverb actually works here, on different levels, for Jeff and Sam!

57. Doug's Hopkin off the band wagon Posted: July 31, 2009 at 03:48 PM (#3275703)

And remember, Jeff, the warden would have probably killed Andy for saying, "How can you be so obtuse?"

58. Doug's Hopkin off the band wagon Posted: July 31, 2009 at 04:08 PM (#3275733)

<clears throat>

How bout a Big Red joke?

I'll do the first line:

A big sweaty red-headed guy with a backpack walks into a sabermetrics convention.

59. phredbird

Posted: July 31, 2009 at 04:19 PM (#3275748)

sabr convention is in socal in 2011? talk about forward planning. where are they having 2010?

60. Quiet Flows the Don Taussig Avenger (Edmundo)

Posted: July 31, 2009 at 04:35 PM (#3275777)

A big sweaty red-headed guy with a backpack walks into a sabermetrics convention.

From the Uncle Miltie/Crustie school:
A nerd looks up from his spreadsheet and says,
"Is that a little girl's leg sticking out of your backpack or are you just happy to see me?"

61. Sam Hutcheson is the 'saur with the rainbow roar Posted: July 31, 2009 at 04:44 PM (#3275782)

sabr convention is in socal in 2011? talk about forward planning. where are they having 2010?

Atlanta.

62. Quiet Flows the Don Taussig Avenger (Edmundo)

Posted: July 31, 2009 at 04:54 PM (#3275791)

A big sweaty red-headed guy with a backpack walks into a sabermetrics convention.

A nerd looks up from his spreadsheet and asks, "Is that what I think it is on your pants or is that mayonnaise?"
BSRHG says, "It ain't mayonnaise."
Nerd: "That's gross"
BSRHG: "You think that's gross, you should see what spilled on Mrs. C's double Ds."

63. Red-Headed Beard Guy Posted: July 31, 2009 at 05:00 PM (#3275799)

Guys, I think you're having a little too much fun at my expense. I'm gonna complain to the site administrators.

I just have to change a couple locks first. Be right back.

64. VoodooR Posted: July 31, 2009 at 05:04 PM (#3275806)

Karhl's transgenderism? Karhl is a woman now.

Wha?

65. Quiet Flows the Don Taussig Avenger (Edmundo)

Posted: July 31, 2009 at 05:13 PM (#3275827)

Karhl's transgenderism? Karhl is a woman now.
Wha?

I stole this link from the wiki page on her, which itself does not mention anything about her sex change.

66. Doug's Hopkin off the band wagon Posted: July 31, 2009 at 05:18 PM (#3275841)

--A big sweaty red-headed guy with a backpack walks into a sabermetrics convention--

BSRHG: Wanna talk to me, you know, as long as we're all here?
Repoz: Uhhm.
BSRHG: Look, it's either me or them. You gotta do it with someone. You're gettin' ###### one way or the other.
[Repoz pretends like someone else is calling him but is unsuccessful in his attempt to move away]
BSRHG: Hey, relax, I'm gonna help you.
Repoz: Gee thanks.
BSRHG: Excuse me, I think a modicum of gratitude would not be out of line here.
Repoz: You think I should be grateful?
BSRHG: Yeah, it's your ass, not mine. I think you should be grateful. I think you should be down on your ######' knees.
Repoz: I didn't know it was such an honor to make small talk with you.
BSRHG: I'm doing a favor, you know. You're gettin' me for nothing, you little ####!
Repoz: That's one hell of an ego you got.
BSRHG: What the #### is your problem? I did not come down here just to get jerked off.
Repoz: You didn't!? Cause a guy like you, I mean...
BSRHG: That's it. You're on your own. I'll just take care of Sleeping Beauty.
[Wakes an overserved Jim Furtado, slumped on the couch]
Jim: Hey-hey Rusty! How's that Kars for Kids thing workin out!
BSRHG: Let's just say I'm still working out of a basement but, I gotta say, I aint so lonely no more. Christmas is still tough though...

67. The Ghost of Sox Fans Past

Posted: July 31, 2009 at 05:18 PM (#3275842)

She used to be Chris, and wrote under that name for BPro and elsewhere, so you can probably Google some results for "Chris Karhl"

68. Shooty: Applying to be Fearless Leader

Posted: July 31, 2009 at 05:22 PM (#3275852)

She used to be Chris, and wrote under that name for BPro and elsewhere, so you can probably Google some results for "Chris Karhl"

It confused me for a long time when the he became she at B-Pro in reference to Kahrl.

69. Crispix Attacks Posted: July 31, 2009 at 05:24 PM (#3275857)

What?!? I just thought "Chris Kahrl" was short for "Christina Kahrl". In other words she was a woman writing under a seemingly male name to avoid being stigmatized in the all-male world of stat nerds.

70. Sam Hutcheson is the 'saur with the rainbow roar Posted: July 31, 2009 at 05:24 PM (#3275858)

She was Chris when she debated on rec.sports.baseball.

71. Jeff K. Posted: July 31, 2009 at 05:25 PM (#3275861)

Having no reason to assume that the lone woman in the picture is not one of the few women known to be attending, the guess is reasonable.

Ben's wife might not enjoy the comparison...

72. Shooty: Applying to be Fearless Leader

Posted: July 31, 2009 at 05:26 PM (#3275866)

What?!? I just thought "Chris Kahrl" was short for "Christina Kahrl". In other words she was a woman writing under a seemingly male name to avoid being stigmatized in the all-male world of stat nerds.

If you google it, you'll find some articles about her becoming Christina. It got some play at the time. Good on B-Pro that they didn't make a big deal about it.

73. Sam Hutcheson is the 'saur with the rainbow roar Posted: July 31, 2009 at 05:26 PM (#3275867)

Why not?

74. VoodooR Posted: July 31, 2009 at 05:27 PM (#3275870)

She used to be Chris, and wrote under that name for BPro and elsewhere, so you can probably Google some results for "Chris Karhl"

Yeah, I used to enjoy reading her Transaction Analysis back when BPro was free. Then I remember be surprised that she was a woman, when she started going by Christina. Now I'm surprised again.

75. Shooty: Applying to be Fearless Leader

Posted: July 31, 2009 at 05:30 PM (#3275875)

I for one am fascinated by this waltz Sam and Jeff K. are having. Where will it end? In Vienna where the doves go to die?

76. Quiet Flows the Don Taussig Avenger (Edmundo)

Posted: July 31, 2009 at 05:30 PM (#3275878)

I thought that the Kahrl story was so well known that nobody needed to talk about it.

77. Srul Itza Posted: July 31, 2009 at 05:31 PM (#3275881)

Jeff: I think at this point, you need to realize that the "open mouth, insert foot" comment applies more to you than to Sam, and to quit while you're behind.

78. Ron Johnson Posted: July 31, 2009 at 05:38 PM (#3275901)

Ben's wife might not enjoy the comparison

I have no idea what Christina looks like, but ...

I don't think Ben's wife would be too offended to be compared to Caroline Cossey just as a f'ristance.

Bond girl (work safe)

79. Guapo Posted: July 31, 2009 at 05:47 PM (#3275935)

It's a little known fact that Ben Jacobs' wife is a major league scout, and she would be ENRAGED to be confused for anyone who worked for Baseball Prospectus.

80. Doug's Hopkin off the band wagon Posted: July 31, 2009 at 05:55 PM (#3275955)

Guys, I think you're having a little too much fun at my expense.

Take it easy, big fella.

I was once similarly besmirched, called a pederast in so many words at 2:30 in the morning at Mohegan Sun casino by this guy just for sporting a thick - and I thought tasteful - mustache. Imagine my sense impotence in that situation.

81. Obama Bomaye Posted: July 31, 2009 at 06:02 PM (#3275976)

I don't think Ben's wife would be too offended to be compared to Caroline Cossey just as a f'ristance.

Small picture, but the face looks kinda mannish.

82. Quiet Flows the Don Taussig Avenger (Edmundo)

Posted: July 31, 2009 at 06:09 PM (#3275992)

Guys, I think you're having a little too much fun at my expense. I'm gonna complain to the site administrators.

I just have to change a couple locks first. Be right back.
Big Ginger, if that was a serious post on your part, then I ask forgiveness. I interpreted your posts 50 and 53 as meaning you were game for some fun at your expense, or better, your SABR 2009's personna's expense.
If you were just kidding with the above post, then my sarcasm detector is currently calibrated correctly and I'll work on one last punch line.

83. Morally Excellent Posted: July 31, 2009 at 06:10 PM (#3275994)

Seeing as his profile labels him a pedophile, I don't really think that's him. P

84. Harold Posted: July 31, 2009 at 06:14 PM (#3276003)

I'm not sure everybody's been ID'd correctly yet, and certainly not all in one post. Pictured, from left to right (as they appear in the frame, not as they're seated):

Aaron Gleeman, 44magnum, studes, Mike Webber, Stacy Jacobs, Anthony Giacalone, Joe Dimino, me, Repoz, Jim Furtado, Greg Spira, Steve Treder, Ben Jacobs, Mister High Standards.

If I could label the people within the pic (like in Flickr or Facebook), I'd do that, as that's much easier to follow.

85. Bernal Diaz has an angel on his shoulder. Posted: July 31, 2009 at 06:26 PM (#3276034)

The red headed guy with the beard is 44 Mag. Pricks.

86. Shooty: Applying to be Fearless Leader

Posted: July 31, 2009 at 06:30 PM (#3276044)

The red headed guy with the beard is 44 Mag. Pricks.

Awesome.

Who's 44magnum?

87. Red-Headed Beard Guy Posted: July 31, 2009 at 06:32 PM (#3276047)

Now that I know who I am, I wonder if there's any purpose to posting anymore.

88. Red-Headed Beard Guy Posted: July 31, 2009 at 06:33 PM (#3276049)

Who's 44magnum?

Oh yeah. Good question. So I still don't really know who I am. I still have a special purpose!

89. Morally Excellent Posted: July 31, 2009 at 06:36 PM (#3276052)

Who's 44magnum?

The red-headed guy with the beard. Come on shooty, I know it's Friday but at least try to pay attention.

90. Shooty: Applying to be Fearless Leader

Posted: July 31, 2009 at 06:37 PM (#3276057)

The red-headed guy with the beard. Come on shooty, I know it's Friday but at least try to pay attention.

I'm tired. Sorry.

91. Doug's Hopkin off the band wagon Posted: July 31, 2009 at 06:42 PM (#3276064)

Who's 44magnum?

Oh yeah. Good question. So I still don't really know who I am. I still have a special purpose!

Yeah, Leonard. There's pleeeeenty of "John G"s out there.

92. Chase Utley, Shooty's Favorite Robot (Joey Belle) Posted: July 31, 2009 at 06:49 PM (#3276075)

My favorite part of Ginger's bio, is that under Favorite Baseball Stuff, he put "Family Day". Incredible. He just topped ntr Jeff Francouer as my favorite meme poster.

93. Shredder Posted: July 31, 2009 at 07:18 PM (#3276145)

Would someone else like to spell it out for Sam, or am I the only one who sees this? It's a joke, of course, but still.

Well it's not like the picture is a close-up or an 8x10 glossy of Ben's wife. She has her back to the camera and it's not a great picture to begin with. You could pretty much see an arm and a head.

94. McCoy Posted: July 31, 2009 at 08:33 PM (#3276266)

SABR is in DC this weekend? For whatever reason I didn't realize that. Probably could have hooked a few people up with some dirt cheap rooms. Maybe I'll stop by. You'll know it is me when you some guy wearing a suit.

95. Doug's Hopkin off the band wagon Posted: August 01, 2009 at 04:29 AM (#3276660)

quote]Why not?

Jeff: I think at this point, you need to realize that the "open mouth, insert foot" comment applies more to you than to Sam, and to quit while you're behind.

Dead thread or not, this is bull shi t Jeff - you got a raw deal in this thread. Everyone is so dour. I actually live with a girl, albeit in a basement of one of our mother's, but she - my gf - would NOT be cool with the comparison no matter how much I schmoozed her about how traumatic and intellectual said gal's transformation was.

She's weird like that. Somehow I still love her.

96. A Random 8-Year-Old Eskimo Posted: August 01, 2009 at 06:03 AM (#3276674)

Dead thread or not, this is bull shi t Jeff - you got a raw deal in this thread. Everyone is so dour. I actually live with a girl, albeit in a basement of one of our mother's, but she - my gf - would NOT be cool with the comparison no matter how much I schmoozed her about how traumatic and intellectual said gal's transformation was.

No, he didn't.

I hope your girlfriend, and you, both realize that every MTF who transitions - it's not a "transformation" - does not look like a 6'2, 210 pound man in a dress with a noticable Adam's apple. (And not every genetic women is a 5'5 110 pound catwalk model, either.) To insinuate that Ben's wife should be offended by being visually compared to a post-op transsexual, while having never seen the woman in the question, betrays serious naivety about transsexuals and, I would argue, insensitivity as well. (This would apply if it was a photo of the person's face or an 8x10, but this sort of comment is particularly surprising considering, as Shredder said, it's a grainy photo of a woman's back.)

She's weird like that. Somehow I still love her.

I'm glad you love your gf, but she could stand to be a little more educated on matters relating to transsexualism.

97. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: August 01, 2009 at 07:55 AM (#3276682)

Seeing as his profile labels him a pedophile, I don't really think that's him. P

Naw, that's the default setting on the BBTF registration page. You have to manually delete it, on the off chance it doesn't apply.

98. Doug's Hopkin off the band wagon Posted: August 02, 2009 at 03:40 AM (#3277190)

I'm glad you love your gf, but she could stand to be a little more educated on matters relating to transsexualism.

Now there's a seminar I'd love to attend! Sounds about as fun as a sober saber convention....

My point in bringing up my gf is to buttress the origin of Jeff's joke, regardless of how funny you think the joke actually was. Of course it was a grainy picture and Sam was making a good faith attempt at ID-ing everyone there!

Jeff's joke simply had a lot to do with how actual women would react to such a mix-up. It has NOTHING to do with Ms. Karl, who I'm ASSUMING has more of a sense of humor than the sanctimonious gatekeepers of her feelings on this thread. Sorry, my girl's about as educated as they come, and God bless her - she'd show her sense of humor and "education" by laughing at how you say she should react to such a comment.

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