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Wednesday, October 21, 2009

Yahoo: Duk: Umpire Tim McClelland makes the worst call of all time

Well…since Decca chose The Tremeloes at least..

Why McClelland possibly decided that Cano was safe despite not touching the bag until after being tagged is beyond this galaxy’s rules of logic and it sent Angel Stadium into a bloodthirsty frenzy. There are simply no words for the ruling, other to say that McClelland shouldn’t ump another game in this series and that Bud Selig has to stop being stubborn and expand the use of instant replay past home run calls.

Simply put, this shouldn’t be happening, especially only one day after it looked like the 2009 postseason had turned the corner with two superb endings in both LCS games.

That McClelland’s mistake was minimized by the subsequent out by Melky Cabrera(notes) — the Yankees scored no runs off the snafu — is irrelevant. In the fourth inning, McClelland also made a mistake when he ruled that Swisher left third base early while attempting to score on a sacrifice fly. He’ll at least have second base umpire Dale Scott as a partner in commiseration, though, because Swisher was picked off at second earlier in the inning and shouldn’t have even been at third. But that call, of course, was also blown.

Almost makes you yearn for the foul line ineptitude of Phll Cuzzi, doesn’t it?

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   1. aleskel Posted: October 21, 2009 at 03:03 AM (#3360422)
lotta that going around
   2. Avoid running at all times.-S. Paige Posted: October 21, 2009 at 03:07 AM (#3360425)
Not sure if this will be the postmortem thread for game 4, but Sabathia and A-Rod have pretty much owned the postseason. Amazing performances by both. A-Rod is locked in.

The umpiring is remarkably bad as well. The non-call on Swisher which transformed into the make-up crap call on the tag up should lead to someone being punished.
   3. JE (Jason Epstein) Posted: October 21, 2009 at 03:08 AM (#3360426)
As the crew chief, McClellan will have to make himself available for the postgame press conference, no? That ought to get interesting.
   4. aleskel Posted: October 21, 2009 at 03:08 AM (#3360427)
McClelland was so bad I half expected George Brett to come storming out of the stands
   5. Jolly Old St. Neck Wound, Moral Idiot Posted: October 21, 2009 at 03:17 AM (#3360433)
The umpiring is remarkably bad as well. The non-call on Swisher which transformed into the make-up crap call on the tag up should lead to someone being punished.

I agree that there were three unbelievably bad calls tonight (the two on Swisher and the Cano farce), but the irony is that the balls and strikes were called nearly to perfection. I don't think I saw more than one borderline call where the Fox zone chart didn't agree. Remembering that LSD strike zone in game 2 of the Yanks-Minny series, it was nice to see a real pro behind the plate for a change.
   6. Avoid running at all times.-S. Paige Posted: October 21, 2009 at 03:21 AM (#3360435)
Yeah, I think the homeplate ump called a strong game. Funny because the way Kazmir reacted to every non-strike call suggested otherwise. I've noticed this with Kazmir in other starts. Seems very immature and self-defeating. He'd drive me crazy if I had to root for him.
   7. Howie Menckel Posted: October 21, 2009 at 03:32 AM (#3360444)
They missed a late-inning steal play, too, but of the conventional "throw got there maybe in time, tag was too high so really the guy was safe" variety.

Not accurate, but that's how they usually call it.

The other ones - are woodsheds still de regeur?
   8. Best Dressed Chicken in Town Posted: October 21, 2009 at 03:34 AM (#3360446)
The Fox zone doesn't look very accurate to me. On my non-hi-def TV, balls which are maybe a couple inches inside to a RHB can't even be seen on the Fox box on my screen, giving the appearance they must have been 12-15+" inside.

And I'm still trying to figure out how watching two balls fly toward the plate helps me determine if it was a ball or strike.
   9. sunnyday2 Posted: October 21, 2009 at 03:49 AM (#3360455)
Yup, the out call at 2nd was blown too, along with the safe call at 2nd, and McClellan's 2 calls. I would agree that the call on Cano is the worst call yet and I would have thought we'd seen the worst call (the Mauer "foul ball"). The look on McClellan's face the 2 times they went in tight on him, I swear to God it reminded me of Dick Howser at the 1985(?) all-star game, if you know what I mean. McClellan should be sat down immediately, crew chief or no. He is not well.
   10. The Most Interesting Man In The World Posted: October 21, 2009 at 03:50 AM (#3360457)
The worst call of all time? I've complained a million times about sportswriters exaggerating.
   11. nick swisher hygiene Posted: October 21, 2009 at 03:50 AM (#3360458)
Yeah, Kazmir, at 25, after surgery (surgeries?) has both the arm and the personality of a ###### old junkballer...
   12. RayDiPerna Posted: October 21, 2009 at 03:51 AM (#3360459)
So what was his explanation for calling a runner who wasn't on the bag safe?
   13. Tom Nawrocki Posted: October 21, 2009 at 03:52 AM (#3360460)
In McClelland's defense, he probably assumed Cano had been on the base for several seconds, since there was absolutely no reason in the world for him to be standing two feet off third base, not moving. It's hard to say who was more idiotic here, McClelland or Cano. And Posada wasn't far behind.
   14. Morally Excellent Posted: October 21, 2009 at 03:53 AM (#3360463)

So what was his explanation for calling a runner who wasn't on the bag safe?


Clearly, Cano expected the neighborhood call. McClelland is a vigilante.
   15. JE (Jason Epstein) Posted: October 21, 2009 at 03:57 AM (#3360466)
Judging by the crowd's boisterous and synchronous reaction to the Swisher pick-off call, it seemed as though the replay was broadcast on the big screen. Can anyone confirm this?
   16. Crispix Attacks Posted: October 21, 2009 at 03:59 AM (#3360469)
The worst call of all time? I've complained a million times about sportswriters exaggerating.


I think an umpire looking at two baserunners who are both standing two feet from the base, and seeing a fielder tag both of them, and then indicating "Out!", and then responding to the confusion of those around him (including the baserunners, who assume that both of them are out), by saying that only one of the guys was out, might very well be the worst call of all time.

It's like watching a triple fly to straightaway center, and calling it foul because the centerfielder didn't chase after it. The only response is to ask the umpire to walk in a straight line and give him a breathalyser test.
   17. The importance of being Ernest Riles Posted: October 21, 2009 at 04:00 AM (#3360470)
I've complained a million times about sportswriters exaggerating.

Really? A million? No exaggeration? :-)
   18. Los Angeles Waterloo of Black Hawk Posted: October 21, 2009 at 04:02 AM (#3360472)
I used to think McClelland was the best ump in MLB. The crazy thing is, even after these two calls, I'm not sure that he isn't.
   19. dingo powered war machine (CoB) Posted: October 21, 2009 at 04:02 AM (#3360473)
Yeah, Kazmir, at 25, after surgery (surgeries?) has both the arm and the personality of a ###### old junkballer...


What does this have to do with Frank Tanana???
   20. dingo powered war machine (CoB) Posted: October 21, 2009 at 04:05 AM (#3360476)
Judging by the crowd's boisterous and synchronous reaction to the Swisher pick-off call, it seemed as though the replay was broadcast on the big screen. Can anyone confirm this?


Yes ... they didn't. But the TV screens at the ballpark were showing the FOX feed so it was clear to everyone that the call was blown.

From talking with the Angels fans around me, the HD TVs were a new add (during this season), everyone knew from the replays that Swisher should have been out, Out, OUT.

(which led to the reaction)

((and the beautiful chants of BULLSH!T, BULLSH!T!!!))
   21. NJ is feeling better Posted: October 21, 2009 at 04:07 AM (#3360477)
McClelland assumed that Cano was a reasonable baserunner and was standing on 3B, especially since he didn't even move as the Angels attempted to tag him. Unfortunately, Cano, Posada, and McClelland were all idiots.
   22. Random Transaction Generator Posted: October 21, 2009 at 04:07 AM (#3360478)
Is Posada suffering from some sort of post-concussion syndrome?
Stepping off the bag and getting tagged out and losing track of the number of outs seems to suggest something isn't right upstairs.
This isn't the first time this season he's lost track of balls/strikes/outs, is it?

Why didn't any of the other umpires help McCelland out with the Posada/Cano thing at third. Surely one of them would have seen what happened and simply corrected McClelland.
   23. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: October 21, 2009 at 04:09 AM (#3360479)
The only reason not to type DISGRACEFUL! is because it actually is disgraceful.
   24. dingo powered war machine (CoB) Posted: October 21, 2009 at 04:11 AM (#3360481)
As a Yankees fan, I'd just like to say as much as I LOVE Cletus, he's the WORST baserunner I've EVER seen.

That's 3 TERRIBLE baserunning blunders on 2 CONSECUTIVE plays.

God pnly knows WTF Cano was thinking ...
   25. Repoz Posted: October 21, 2009 at 04:11 AM (#3360483)
BULLSH!T, BULLSH!T

Two i's are missing...just like McClelland!
   26. NYCTigersfan Posted: October 21, 2009 at 04:12 AM (#3360484)
I don't think it's appropriate to group the Swisher at 2nd/Swisher at 3rd calls in with the non-DP. The former two were bad calls on close plays. It happens.

The 3rd base fiasco, on the other hand, is in a different galaxy. The only explanations are that he wasn't watching where Cano was when Napoli tagged him, he doesn't know the rules, or he was intoxicated, any of which are completely unacceptable.
   27. Sean Forman Posted: October 21, 2009 at 04:14 AM (#3360486)
It also looked to me that McClelland made zero effort to move when Posada was shielding him on the play.
   28. Sean Forman Posted: October 21, 2009 at 04:14 AM (#3360488)
Also, you really have to be working to have two calls at third base go that badly and neither of them be a fair/foul call.
   29. Los Angeles Waterloo of Black Hawk Posted: October 21, 2009 at 04:16 AM (#3360491)
I also have no idea how McClelland called Swisher out on the tag-up. He clearly wasn't looking at Swisher when the ball was caught; does he really trust his peripheral vision for a call that big? I almost thought for a sec he was trying to make up for missed call on the pickoff of Swisher at second.

Maybe McClelland just never looks at feet and guesses at where they should be.
   30. Yardape Posted: October 21, 2009 at 04:17 AM (#3360494)
In the highlight at MLB.com, when Scioscia's arguing, I'm pretty sure you can hear Figgins say "he wasn't on the bag either", which indicates to me McLelland assumed Cano was on the bag and made the call that way.
   31. JE (Jason Epstein) Posted: October 21, 2009 at 04:18 AM (#3360495)
Yes ... they didn't. But the TV screens at the ballpark were showing the FOX feed so it was clear to everyone that the call was blown.


Thanks ... and wow!
   32. NaOH Posted: October 21, 2009 at 04:19 AM (#3360497)
I don't think it's appropriate to group the Swisher at 2nd/Swisher at 3rd calls in with the non-DP. The former two were bad calls on close plays. It happens.

The 3rd base fiasco, on the other hand, is in a different galaxy.


Lynch mobs don't like to hear any semblance of reasoned analysis.
   33. Frisco Cali Posted: October 21, 2009 at 04:24 AM (#3360500)
McClelland was standing in exactly the same spot when he made the Swisher tag call, and the Posada/Cano call. If he would do something radical, like getting into position, then maybe he would have a chance to get the calls right. You know, like on a potential tag play, line yourself up with the runner and fielder so you can see the ball being caught and the runner leave the base. Just a suggestion. WTF do I know?
   34. Dave Spiwak Posted: October 21, 2009 at 04:25 AM (#3360501)
The devil challenged God to a baseball game.

Smiling, God proclaimed, "Ha HA! You don't have a chance -- I've got Babe Ruth, Mickey Mantle, and all the greatest players up here!"

"Yes", laughed the devil, "but I have all the umpires!"

***

Seriously though, since McClelland is crew chief, can the home plate ump not override his call? I mean, wouldn't the plate ump be honed in on the play at third and have a good look at Cano standing dumbly a foot away from the bag? Maybe the play was so absurd they couldn't believe their own eyes.
   35. The Yankee Clapper Posted: October 21, 2009 at 04:25 AM (#3360502)
When Posada ran past 3rd base going back to the bag, I think he blocked McClelland's view of the base so he didn't see that Cano's foot was not on the base. McClelland probably thought Cano had to be on the bag or Posada wouldn't have moved off it. When Cano put his foot back on 3rd base, he just eased his foot forward without moving his whole body, so again it wasn't apparent from the obstructed view of the umpire that he was ever off the bag. Bad call, but the blocked view and assumption that the baserunners couldn't mess up that badly led the umpire to the result. However, the other umpires probably had a good enough view to straighten it out if McClelland had confered with them, although I don't think I've ever seen an ump consult his colleagues on a call at a base that WAS RIGHT IN FRONT OF HIM.
   36. Vaux, A.B.D. Posted: October 21, 2009 at 04:37 AM (#3360509)
Heh. I have a kids baseball book from the early '60s, and in its version of that joke, God has Ty Cobb up there.
   37. God Posted: October 21, 2009 at 04:42 AM (#3360510)
In McClelland's defense, he probably assumed...[yada, yada, ya]

I do see what you're getting at, but sorry, that's no defense at all. In fact, the notion that the umpire just assumed what happened instead of attempting to watch what happened makes it even worse.
   38. Avoid running at all times.-S. Paige Posted: October 21, 2009 at 04:45 AM (#3360511)
God is not forgiving.
   39. NaOH Posted: October 21, 2009 at 04:52 AM (#3360513)
God is not forgiving.

Nor is s/he omniscient. We were not told definitively what McClelland was thinking.
   40. God Posted: October 21, 2009 at 04:55 AM (#3360516)
I really wish the Angels had made a bigger deal out of it. Some very calm discussion ensued, and that was all. If anything ever deserved a Milton Bradley-style blowup, this was it. Somebody needed to do something memorable to draw attention to the level of incompetence here. Scioscia picking up third base and walking away with it would have been a good start. At the very least he should have asked McClelland to check with the other umps himself (And if McClelland refused to do so, Scioscia should have gone and argued his case to the other umps anyway, just to make a point, even though they obviously wouldn't dare overrule their crew chief.)

I realize none of that would have really served a purpose as far as his team was concerned, but 1) It would have made the game a hell of a lot more entertaining, and 2) A strenuous protest would have drawn more attention to the incompetence, and perhaps nudged MLB a little farther toward fixing its umpiring problem.
   41. Avoid running at all times.-S. Paige Posted: October 21, 2009 at 04:58 AM (#3360517)
by the way, regarding the play on the field, if I'm Scioscia I give A-Rod the Bonds treatment the rest of the series. He's out of hand right now.
   42. Lassus: Posted: October 21, 2009 at 04:59 AM (#3360519)
I also have no idea how McClelland called Swisher out on the tag-up. He clearly wasn't looking at Swisher when the ball was caught; does he really trust his peripheral vision for a call that big?

The Posada/Cano thing, barring a rule or explanation we're completely unaware of, is pretty indefensible.

The Swisher tag-up, however, really brings to light how difficult that call is. Put yourself in the umpire's position here. You must be looking at the outfielder in order to have a prayer of making the call right, for if you are looking at the runner, you have absolutely no chance whatsoever. Now, take a moment to imagine the physical position you have to be in to actually see the ball and the foot at the same time - no position actually exists.

It is definitely a feel play, and although he didn't dwell on it, you might recall that McCarver - who actually played some baseball - gave way to his own actually incredulity there on how the hell the umpire ever makes that call, correct or incorrect.
   43. Big Train Posted: October 21, 2009 at 05:03 AM (#3360521)
A 2b umpire was 3 feet away from a tag play, and the runner was tagged on the wrist, on the only limb headed toward the base, and the tag occurred a foot and a half from the base and the runner was called safe anyway.

The fact that this was only the third worst call of the day is unbelievable.
   44. Shredder Posted: October 21, 2009 at 05:13 AM (#3360524)
On the bad calls:

1) Thankfully, they didn't affect the outcome of the game. The Angels made sure of that.
2) The blown call on the tag-up was awful, but it was basically karma for the blown call at second on the pick-off. Swisher was out by a good six inches. In a world with competent umpires, the fly out to center field was the third out. So if I were a Yankees fan, I probably wouldn't be complaining about that call. But in a vacuum, it was a horrible call.
3) Gardner was safe on the steal of second in the eighth inning.
4) The call at third with Swisher and Cano is one of the top three worst calls I've ever seen, up there with the missed foul/fair ball in the Twins game. Crispix described it best. It's a an umpire, a crew chief, looking directly at two runners who aren't standing on a base, both of whom were tagged, but for some reason, only one was called out. Credit Mike Napoli with a good play there.

In my opinion, this is related to the overall descent into mediocrity that is what we've come to expect from Major League Baseball. Last night a ball was hit to Erick Aybar's right, and it bounced off the heel of his glove. It wasn't an easy play, but it should have been ruled an error. These are Major Leaguers, not Little Leaguers. He is by definition one of the 30 best people in the world at what he does. He should be expected to make a tough play. But those go as hits now, because we don't expect very much from Major Leaguers.

And we don't expect much from Major League umpires. If I made a mistake at my job as big as the mistakes made by Phil Cuzzi, C.B. Bucknor, and Tim McClelland, I'd be fired. But we expect less than adequate umpiring, so they'll be fine. Tim McClelland should resign tomorrow. His performance tonight was a disgrace to the profession. Thankfully, it didn't affect the outcome.
   45. God Posted: October 21, 2009 at 05:18 AM (#3360526)
Credit Mike Napoli with a good play there.

Yeah, no kidding. Unfortunately, that's what gets lost in this whole thing: Scioscia's defensively lacking whipping boy makes the most heads-up defensive play of the playoffs so far.
   46. Shredder Posted: October 21, 2009 at 05:19 AM (#3360527)
I'm pretty sure you can hear Figgins say "he wasn't on the bag either"
Yeah, I just checked it, and he definitely says this, so I'm guessing McClelland thought Cano was on the bag. Disgraceful. Again, these guys are supposed to be the best in the world at their profession. Major League Baseball has to demand better than this. This is deer in the headlights stuff. And he's a freaking crew chief.
   47. God Posted: October 21, 2009 at 05:23 AM (#3360529)
I will agree with Lassus that the leaving-early call is so difficult that it's amazing any umpire ever gets it right. What would increase their chances of getting it right, however, is getting in better position -- i.e. farther down the baseline toward home plate -- so both the outfielder and the runner's foot are nearer the same line of vision. McClelland didn't do this. Maybe he's too old to be moving around well enough to get into position. In which case he should be thanked for his years of service and begin drawing his pension immediately.

It seemed fairly obvious that, to the degree McClelland was watching Swisher at all, he was watching his upper body. He probably equated "body started moving" with "left the base," which was a big mistake, because Swisher started moving his body toward home plate long before his foot left the bag.
   48. God Posted: October 21, 2009 at 05:28 AM (#3360530)
This is almost certainly the worst call of McClelland's career, but it's not the one which had the most impact -- he sent the Rockies on their way to the World Series, and Matt Holliday still hasn't touched home plate.
   49. NYCTigersfan Posted: October 21, 2009 at 05:28 AM (#3360531)
Now, take a moment to imagine the physical position you have to be in to actually see the ball and the foot at the same time - no position actually exists.

Why? Isn't there such a position between home plate and third base?
   50. nick swisher hygiene Posted: October 21, 2009 at 05:28 AM (#3360532)
And it's not that Cano wandered off the bag--he never reaches the bag!--he slows down and then stops, what, a foot away? even more? and he's ostentatiously not on the bag........as if he thinks two men on the same bag is an automatic double play.

and I would be surprised, but not be completely shocked if that was what Cano did believe.
   51. Lassus: Posted: October 21, 2009 at 05:28 AM (#3360533)
I hate when even I don't have time to edit out my tendency to over-write the word "actually".


Why? Isn't there such a position between home plate and third base?

Think of the angle and line-of-sight. You'd have to be lying down on the field two feet in front of the runner.


This is almost certainly the worst call of McClelland's career, but it's not the one which had the most impact -- he sent the Rockies on their way to the World Series, and Matt Holliday still hasn't touched home plate.

Adorable to repeat the meme, but there isn't anyone on the planet who can say this with any accuracy other than McClelland.
   52. Avoid running at all times.-S. Paige Posted: October 21, 2009 at 05:28 AM (#3360534)
isn't it the kind of call where you should be certain that the runner left early if you're going to call him out? Given that 99% runners are judged to leave at the correct time, you'd probably have to give the benefit ofany doubt to the runner. I think McClelland made that call based on how well the Angels dugout and fielders sold it. My guess is they immediately screamed stuff from the dugout and he was convinced by their seemingly authentic reaction.
   53. Shredder Posted: October 21, 2009 at 05:32 AM (#3360535)
Why? Isn't there such a position between home plate and third base?
Actually, the position is such that third base is positioned between the umpire and the guy making the catch. McClelland was late getting there. I couldn't tell if it was because he's just slow, or because he's lazy and got a late start.

And while I'm at it, if this is the de facto post game thread, congratulations Yankees. You've assembled a great team. I won't be rooting for you (though I could change my mind if the Dodgers pull it off), and I can't think of one player on the team I'd like to see win a World Series, but there's certain a crapload of talent in that lineup.
   54. dingo powered war machine (CoB) Posted: October 21, 2009 at 05:35 AM (#3360536)
and I would be surprised, but not be completely shocked if that was what Cano did believe.


Seriously, that play was the UGLIEST I've ever seen.

Ever.

From Posada's terrible decision to run on a ground ball to the infield where he would have been out by 40 feet at the plate.

To neither Posada or Cano having the slightest clue how to proceed with the situation on 3rd (hint, if you're BOTH on the bag, only ONE of you is going to be out) once Posada turned and ran back towards where he had come from.

That's three stunningly clueless baserunning blunders in 15 seconds, topped off by McClelland completely blowing a play where both players were tagged while obviously off the bag.

I was in awe of it, frankly.
   55. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: October 21, 2009 at 05:36 AM (#3360537)
This is almost certainly the worst call of McClelland's career, but it's not the one which had the most impact -- he sent the Rockies on their way to the World Series, and Matt Holliday still hasn't touched home plate.

Not true! I saw Holliday touch home plate just this year in a Cards-Reds game.
   56. Yardape Posted: October 21, 2009 at 05:40 AM (#3360538)
From the story on MLB.com:

When he tagged Cano, I thought Cano was on the base," McClelland said. "[The replay] showed that Cano was off the bag when he was tagged. I did not see that, for whatever reason. So, obviously, there were two missed calls."


So I guess he figured, "why would Cano just be standing around?" Although I think he'd also wonder why Napoli would bother to tag a guy standing on third base.
   57. God Posted: October 21, 2009 at 05:43 AM (#3360539)
Although I think he'd also wonder why Napoli would bother to tag a guy standing on third base.

This I'm going to disagree with. Every time that play happens, the fielder always tags both runners, whether they're standing on the base or not, just to make sure. It may not make sense, but it literally always happens. It should therefore not have surprised McClelland in the slightest.
   58. nick swisher hygiene Posted: October 21, 2009 at 05:44 AM (#3360540)
"There were two missed calls."

Two calls were missed.
Two missed calls occurred.
Calls were missed, on two occasions.

The phrase you're looking for, Tim, is
"I missed two calls."

[Edit: Is that too ###### of me? ####, ballplayers admit they screwed up without hiding behind passive constructions--why not umps?]
   59. God Posted: October 21, 2009 at 05:47 AM (#3360542)
Hey, at least he admitted they were missed calls. That's a pretty big step forward; usually, the umps' philosophy is to admit absolutely nothing even if the blown call was really obvious. (Remember the "hey, the replay was inconclusive" excuse we heard after the Brandon Inge HBP?)
   60. puck Posted: October 21, 2009 at 05:47 AM (#3360543)
he sent the Rockies on their way to the World Series, and Matt Holliday still hasn't touched home plate.


This one again, huh? Makeup call for the blown HR call in the 7th.
   61. RayDiPerna Posted: October 21, 2009 at 05:47 AM (#3360544)
I really wish the Angels had made a bigger deal out of it. Some very calm discussion ensued, and that was all. If anything ever deserved a Milton Bradley-style blowup, this was it.


My guess is that McLelland admitted to Scioscia that he may have missed it. Or something. I don't know why no other ump came over to help out.

For a few years after the Richie Phillips fiasco the umps really were getting together, huddling up, to discuss calls and see who had the best look. We've gotten away from that again. But there was a noticeable improvement in effort for a while.

As for the Swisher tag play, I wasn't completely sure on the replay whether Swisher left early or not. I do think that McLelland needs to be pretty sure if he calls the runner out. I don't think he could have been sure.

As to Gardner being safe at second on the steal... that was hard to tell, and I can't fault an ump there no matter which way he calls it. I'm not complaining about bang-bang plays, but about egregious mistakes and lack of effort. The tag play on Swisher at second... yeah, that was pretty bad. And the ump was standing over the play.
   62. God Posted: October 21, 2009 at 05:48 AM (#3360545)
This one again, huh? Makeup call for the blown HR call in the 7th.

Oh, so you're saying he blew the call on purpose. That makes it better.
   63. puck Posted: October 21, 2009 at 05:49 AM (#3360547)
I'm pretty sure the real God isn't so uptight.
   64. Yardape Posted: October 21, 2009 at 05:53 AM (#3360549)
Edit: Is that too ###### of me? ####, ballplayers admit they screwed up without hiding behind passive constructions--why not umps?


I don't think it's entirely fair. The article is here, and McLelland pretty clearly takes responsibility. I just quoted that part because it explained what he was thinking, but it did have larger context. That context being, McLelland blew the call(s).
   65. NYCTigersfan Posted: October 21, 2009 at 05:53 AM (#3360550)
Think of the angle and line-of-sight. You'd have to be lying down on the field two feet in front of the runner.

We're talking about a routine fly ball to center, right? Wouldn't standing a couple feet on the home-plate side of third base and maybe 10-15 feet in foul territory do the trick?

Actually, the position is such that third base is positioned between the umpire and the guy making the catch. McClelland was late getting there. I couldn't tell if it was because he's just slow, or because he's lazy and got a late start.

Yeah, shouldn't he be running to that spot as soon as he sees where the ball is hit? Unless there's going to be a play at 3B, seeing that play as well as possible is his only responsibility.
   66. God Posted: October 21, 2009 at 05:53 AM (#3360551)
Anyway, the question we really should be discussing here is this: Will the umpires' union actually allow any of the changes that have been suggested to improve umpiring in the playoffs? (The most important of which is chucking this rotation system BS and going back to merit-based selection.)
   67. Cooperstown Schtick Posted: October 21, 2009 at 05:55 AM (#3360552)
Swisher got called out on a very similar play late in the regular season.

The problem is that he has a kind of unusual approach to tagging up. Most players get into a sprinter-like position, such that their first motion brings them off the bag. Swisher kinda centers himself on the base, and nearly a full second before the ball is caught, he starts upper body momentum while his foot is still on the bag. Given how difficult it is to watch a runner's foot and an outfielder's glove at the same time, I think seeing that much motion that long before the catch makes it seem obvious to the ump that he's left early, even when he hasn't at all.
   68. Drew (Primakov, Gungho Iguanas) Posted: October 21, 2009 at 05:56 AM (#3360553)
Two of the worst calls of all time in one postseason.

At what point do we stop and ask seriously if the umpires' integrity might be compromised?
   69. God Posted: October 21, 2009 at 05:57 AM (#3360554)
Yeah, shouldn't he be running to that spot as soon as he sees where the ball is hit? Unless there's going to be a play at 3B, seeing that play as well as possible is his only responsibility.

In which case, it should be pointed out that there was a potential play at 3B on that ball (Melky tagging up and going to 3B if the throw goes through to the plate).
   70. puck Posted: October 21, 2009 at 05:58 AM (#3360555)
Wait--so they *are* assigning crews on a rotation and not by some merit-based system? That seems crazy. It does seem like there have been far more bad calls than usual.
   71. God Posted: October 21, 2009 at 06:00 AM (#3360556)
At what point do we stop and ask seriously if the umpires' integrity might be compromised?

At the point we get some evidence indicating that. Or, at the point where the bad calls start going only one way instead of affecting both teams and often canceling each other out.
   72. NaOH Posted: October 21, 2009 at 06:01 AM (#3360557)
Will the umpires' union actually allow any of the changes that have been suggested to improve umpiring in the playoffs?

What changes? The ones being posted on a bunch of random Internet sites? Oh, yeah, I'm confident an Internet-based referendum on changes to the training, development, and oversight of umpires will lead to nothing but quality enhancements.
   73. nick swisher hygiene Posted: October 21, 2009 at 06:04 AM (#3360558)
as a mostly neutral fan, I really, really thought the Dodgers got ###### on balls and strike calls in game 5--but it might have been different styles of catching, something like that.
   74. God Posted: October 21, 2009 at 06:09 AM (#3360559)
What changes? The ones being posted on a bunch of random Internet sites? Oh, yeah, I'm confident an Internet-based referendum on changes to the training, development, and oversight of umpires will lead to nothing but quality enhancements.

Wow, who peed in your Cheerios? And more importantly, who the hell said anything about the internet? The problem has become so epidemic that everyone from MLB managers to former players to TV analysts to the freaking Wall Street Journal has been offering solutions on how to fix it. Surely there is someone at MLB capable of determining which such suggestions are wheat and which ones are chaff.
   75. God Posted: October 21, 2009 at 06:16 AM (#3360560)
Wait--so they *are* assigning crews on a rotation and not by some merit-based system? That seems crazy.

One of the yahoos on MLB Network said that the other day. I assume it's true, but I shouldn't have passed it along as fact because I actually don't know.
   76. NaOH Posted: October 21, 2009 at 07:01 AM (#3360564)
It's both a merit-based system and a rotation. The umpires are selected based on merit, but there are some caveats which circumvent this. For one, an umpire can't work consecutive series, like the Division Series and then the LCS. Also, an umpire can't work the World Series in consecutive years.

So, let's just say the meritocracy concludes Joe West is the best umpire. If he worked the 2008 World Series, he can only umpire in this year's Division Series or LCS. Not both, and not the World Series.

Unfortunately, a lot of the blame for this setup lies with the umps, not MLB. The umpires union wanted the rotation so different umpires would have the opportunity to serve in the playoffs. Oddly, though, all umpires are paid extra for the playoffs, even if they are not selected to be in any games.

It's a very weird set of rules governing all of this. Hopefully, the next CBA between the umps and MLB will address some of these matters. I believe the current contract is being renegotiated because it expires this winter. If that's correct, we should know soon enough if there will be any adjustments to the current arrangement.
   77. Robert in Manhattan Beach Posted: October 21, 2009 at 07:07 AM (#3360567)
I really wish the Angels had made a bigger deal out of it. Some very calm discussion ensued, and that was all. If anything ever deserved a Milton Bradley-style blowup, this was it.

Having umpiring this bad and not inviting Bobby Cox to the party is a cruel joke.
   78. God Posted: October 21, 2009 at 07:10 AM (#3360568)
Hopefully MLB takes a hard line on fixing the system, even if it means replacement umpires during spring training.
   79. Srul Itza At Home Posted: October 21, 2009 at 07:47 AM (#3360571)
So when it happened, nobody else thought of the old joke:

"The Dodgers have three men on base."

"Which base?"
   80. RMc's grumbling has gone far enough Posted: October 21, 2009 at 08:13 AM (#3360580)
Well...since Decca chose The Tremeloes at least..

I'm a huge Beatles fan...so much that I've been known to affix "MBE (Member of Beatle Empire)" to my signature. ;)

But the Tremeloes were actually an excellent signing for Decca: they had a slew of hits in the UK and a few in America, and in fact they're still around today. They weren't in the same universe as the Beatles, of course, but nobody could have known that in 1961/62.

And their version of "Silence Is Golden" is, well, gold.
   81. Jeff K. Posted: October 21, 2009 at 08:14 AM (#3360581)
So I guess he figured, "why would Cano just be standing around?"

That's what I was yelling while Posada was running back to third. I hate the Yankees and the Angels and yet I was yelling at my TV "What are you doing, you dumb ############?" towards Cano. Something told me that was going to be epic. And as I think Rauseo said, "You know a call is blown when 5 people log into IRC to ##### about it." I was 1 of those 5.

As for the lining up the angle question, I would just like to note that nobody has yet questioned how the 3b umpire makes that call when the catch is in right field. If he just gets into a line with runner and catch, why can't he do that for left? If two umps work in tandem (which is what I always thought), why can't that adapt to left?
   82. Stevis Posted: October 21, 2009 at 10:00 AM (#3360588)
Even if you can't get in a line with the runner and the catch, you can get them both in your field of vision--say, 15 degrees or so--and see the call cleary. If you back up.

"Angle over distance" is what we preach to 13 year olds and parents looking to volunteer in Little League. Why MLB umps can't get that I don't know.
   83. Jeff K. Posted: October 21, 2009 at 10:26 AM (#3360591)
Srul touches on it, but with a little time to reflect, I'm kind of happy this happened. No no, hear me out. I'm sure at least some of you grew up reading the same stuff I did about baseball, the sort of compendium of random anecdotes, or funny stories, or "How about that?" Stuff like Babe Herman "tripling into a triple play." I used to wonder why none of that stuff ever seemed to happen anymore.

Well, in 30 years, some kid's going to read a section in a book compiled by Furman Bisher (who will still be writing) titled "When Tagging Two Baserunners Didn't Mean Two Outs" or something. And it didn't cost anyone anything other than a few more pitches, and of course all of this "worst call evar" overstates the case, so it's a little awesome something like that went down.
   84. vigaro Posted: October 21, 2009 at 10:51 AM (#3360594)
This is another unwritten rule...the socalled anti-loitering rule. #players loitering around a bag minus # of bags = # of outs. McLelland had the play off. Didn't need to get out of the way of or look at nothing. If he was looking at anything unsuual about that play (which I doubt).. it's a player running around tagging people like a chicken with its head cut off. The call was made when Posada turned around and headed back. Just waiting for all the commotion to stop.
   85. Chip Posted: October 21, 2009 at 10:58 AM (#3360596)
Surely there is someone at MLB capable of determining which such suggestions are wheat and which ones are chaff.


Bud Selig chortles at your naivete.
   86. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: October 21, 2009 at 11:04 AM (#3360597)
I'm pretty sure the real God isn't so uptight.

Careful - he sounds wroth, and he might smite you.
   87. TVerik, AKA Snoopy Snoopy Poop Dog Posted: October 21, 2009 at 11:04 AM (#3360598)
I hate Erick Aybar. Just wanted to point out; some Angels give me problems because they've smacked around the Yankees over time; I dislike Howie Kendrick because he brings the pain. But Aybar hasn't really done this; I just don't like him because I don't like him.
   88. Cuban X Senators Posted: October 21, 2009 at 11:50 AM (#3360626)
McClelland's problem was that he anticipated the play -- "okay, we're gonna have two runners at third here; preceding runner maintains the bag, trailing runner is out." And then Posada threw a twist at him -- which (concussion issues or not) was actually smart on Posada's part; who do you want at third Posada or Cano? If Posada gets on the bag with Cano, you'll have the (physically at least) inferior runner at third. Posada had a thought in by-passing the bag; Cano had no logic in standing a half-step away.

So, now McClelland's anticipated the call, is all ready for it, and then he gets a variant -- "wait Posada never touched -- he's out" and that one variant sets his mind reeling and blinds him to the other variant from what he anticipated. He never processes "Cano's not on the bag." McClelland's mind had already seen the play and two variants were just too much to change in his picture.

Both McClelland and Posada anticipated Cano acting logically. Of course McClelland's job is to not anticipate beyond getting into a position to see what actually happens. Posada, well anticipating but reacting to realities may be his job too, but in his case he needed to be in action before the critical moment. There were physical actions he may have not been able to reverse (momentum, course, etc.). Whereas, McClelland could have wholly revised his mental processing at any split-second.

If I'm ranking the idiocy here it goes: Cano, McClelland, Posada.
   89. Gaelan Posted: October 21, 2009 at 11:59 AM (#3360632)
The umpires are selected based on merit,


This is impossible. Until umpires start getting fired for things like this nothing is ever going to change. This is the kind of thing that costs players their jobs I don't see why it should be any different for umpires.
   90. Big Train Posted: October 21, 2009 at 12:09 PM (#3360642)
How about this, on a tagup play. Let me throw this at you, its a fly ball to the OF, why not have the 2b umpire raise his hand, and make a signal of some sort when it touches the glove?

The 3b (1st base if the runner is tagging from firs or second) ump makes some sort of signal when the runner leaves. Either the home plate ump, or the 1st base ump who can see both umpires in his field of vision only has to see the signal of both umpires.
   91. Dolf Lucky Posted: October 21, 2009 at 12:13 PM (#3360647)
They should assign the four best crews (4-man crews only) to the division series. The two crews that grade out the best get to call the LCS's. The best grades out of that group are assigned to the WS. And there should be copious amounts of compensation for each postseason assignment (and none to those left behind).
   92. TVerik, AKA Snoopy Snoopy Poop Dog Posted: October 21, 2009 at 12:16 PM (#3360649)
sj, I worry if it doesn't work; if the umpire in question is otherwise occupied in a possible play, I don't think an indirect signal of a runner leaving should stand in for actually seeing it.
   93. TVerik, AKA Snoopy Snoopy Poop Dog Posted: October 21, 2009 at 12:20 PM (#3360654)
Better yet, we have some sort of umpiring skills competition (like before the NHL All-Star game) before the playoffs, televise it, and reward the best-scoring umps with assignments.
   94. DKDC Posted: October 21, 2009 at 12:21 PM (#3360656)
I didn't see the play, but surely one of the other umpires saw that Cano wasn't standing on the bag.

Umpires sometimes do confer after controversial plays, so why didn't McClelland get overruled by another ump who had the angle to see the play?
   95. John DiFool2 Posted: October 21, 2009 at 12:24 PM (#3360658)
I'm done. The crap umpiring has completely soured me on this postseason. Yeah, rooting against the Yankees might otherwise have some interest for me, but I've reached my limit with the constant crap calls.
   96. TVerik, AKA Snoopy Snoopy Poop Dog Posted: October 21, 2009 at 12:26 PM (#3360660)
Is the umpiring really worse than it is in the regular season, or is it that much more viewership and many more camera angles (and some great replays) amplifies an existing problem?
   97. Sheer Tim Foli Posted: October 21, 2009 at 12:26 PM (#3360661)
So, now McClelland's anticipated the call, is all ready for it, and then he gets a variant

I think you got it exactly.

If I'm ranking the idiocy here it goes: Cano, McClelland, Posada.

The idiocy is so far off the charts ranking it is pointless. Let's call it a huge clusterf*ck and all three share blame.
   98. Jolly Old St. Neck Wound, Moral Idiot Posted: October 21, 2009 at 12:44 PM (#3360674)
I only watched two innings of the game tonight and I saw three no-doubt-about-it blown calls (Swisher at 2nd, Swisher at 3rd, Cano at 3rd). It was incredible. I know the most recent thing in one's head always seems to stand out, but really, this has to be the worst umpired postseason I've ever seen (I'm 28).

I don't know about the worst umpired postseason, but that Cano / Posada fiasco was easily the worst single call I've ever seen in my life, including Little League. And I'm 165, so you know I've seen a few.
   99. Yankee Redneck is a Pinhead. Posted: October 21, 2009 at 12:58 PM (#3360690)
2) The blown call on the tag-up was awful, but it was basically karma for the blown call at second on the pick-off.


Karma is not repaid in this lifetime.
   100. SugarBear Blanks Posted: October 21, 2009 at 12:59 PM (#3360693)
I don't know about the worst umpired postseason, but that Cano / Posada fiasco was easily the worst single call I've ever seen in my life, including Little League. And I'm 165, so you know I've seen a few.


The call on Swisher leaving 3rd was awful. You absolutely, positively cannot get that call wrong, since the penalty to the wronged team is so high. If there's any ambiguity in your mind, you let it go.

There was a similar call in the fourth game of the Twins/Tigers series in the last week of the RS. 4-2 Twins, bottom of the 7th, Tiger on first. Fly ball, Tiger tags to second, Twins challenge, ####### ump calls out. TV lines up split-screen to the millisecond, shows definitively that call was wrong. Inning killed. Ridiculous.

The baseline incompetence is extremely annoying, but add to that no feel whatever for the gravity and context of the call, and it drives you apoplectic. Out on a tagup in a pennant race or LCS is not safe or out at first Royals up 10-0 over A's in May.
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