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Monday, May 12, 2008

Yahoo!: Henson: Ryan Howard can’t hit what he can’t see

Howard is not like some other players off to dreadful starts. He’s not Andruw Jones, out of shape, seemingly uncaring. He’s not Richie Sexson, angry and ill-suited to his home park. He’s not Jim Edmonds, broken down and washed up.

He’s one of the most promising young hitters in many years, a slugger who along with Prince Fielder could be the next Bonds and Griffey, Stargell and McCovey, Foxx and Gehrig.

Unless it turns out he’s Dave Kingman. The strikeouts are staggering. Howard swings and misses 35.1 percent of the time, third-most in baseball and well above the MLB average of 20 percent. He swung and missed 34.9 percent of the time last season and 32.9 percent in 2006, so he’s gotten only minimally worse.

The biggest statistical difference this year is that he’s batting only .204 on fastballs in the strike zone after hitting those pitches at a better than .400 clip the past two years. He’s also been swinging at more pitches early in counts and having less success.

“along with Prince Fielder could be the next Bonds and Griffey, Stargell and McCovey, Foxx and Gehrig.”...or maybe Mr. Fields and Shemp!

Repoz Posted: May 12, 2008 at 09:51 AM | 21 comment(s)
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   1. Crashburn Alley Posted: May 12, 2008 at 10:03 AM (#2777604)
The biggest statistical difference is that it's only fastballs Howard's been hitting. Unless Josh Kalk's cards lie, Howard has only gotten extra-base hits on fastballs and cutters. His slugging average is the same as his batting average on sinkers and sliders (where both are 0) and curveballs and change-ups.

He also won't move up in the batter's box despite the suggestions from hitting guru/manager Charlie Manuel to do so.
   2. Guts Posted: May 12, 2008 at 10:15 AM (#2777609)
Did you know Howard is older than Albert Pujols? True story!
   3. Pujols Shot Ya Posted: May 12, 2008 at 10:21 AM (#2777614)
I would be remiss if I didn't mention that Albert Pujols has a receding hair line and is therefore 3 years older than his listed age.
   4. Chris Dial Posted: May 12, 2008 at 10:31 AM (#2777621)
Holy Sugar! That card is utterly insanely awesome.
   5. Aspiring One-Armed Economist (6 - 4 - 3) Posted: May 12, 2008 at 10:36 AM (#2777628)
Comparing the player cards linked from #1, it struck me that the biggest difference between 2007 and 2008 is the proportion of pitches that Howard has seen that are fastballs, with an equally large decrease in sliders. There has also been a less dramatic increase in both changeups and curves.
   6. Rodder Posted: May 12, 2008 at 10:45 AM (#2777634)
According to the card, Howard has put one ball in play that was a slider so far this year.
   7. Chris Dial Posted: May 12, 2008 at 10:52 AM (#2777643)
I wish I could send that link to someone at the Mets.
   8. AROM Posted: May 12, 2008 at 11:21 AM (#2777671)
I would be remiss if I didn't mention that Albert Pujols has a receding hair line and is therefore 3 years older than his listed age.


By itself that wouldn't mean much. Some people just lose their hair earlier than others. The 25 year old son is better evidence of his real age, as are photos of him playing alongside Babe Ruth.
   9. Robert Machemer Posted: May 12, 2008 at 11:48 AM (#2777689)
Agreed with Chris, those cards are awesome. I wish I had a better sense of context (what's good, what's bad) for some of them. For instance...

JD Drew:
currently hitting: .284 AVG, .414 SLG (with a .392 OBP, he has a 118 OPS+)

according to his card:
against 226 fastballs (52 in play): .212 AVG, .346 SLG
agaisnt 3 sinkers (1 in play): .000 AVG, .000 SLG
against 41 curveballs (7 in play): .286 AVG, .429 SLG
against 52 sliders (13 in play): .308 AVG, .462 SLG
against 45 changeups (9 in play): .333 AVG, .333 SLG
against 12 splitters (1 in play): .000 AVG, .000 SLG
against 16 cutters (3 in play): .667 AVG, 1.667 SLG

Which all is cool to see, but I'm not sure what to make of it. I mean, clearly Drew is hitting better (in a small sample) against offspeed pitches than he is against fastballs (when he puts the ball in play or strikes out), but it could well be thatmany players do that (though it would surprise me) or it could be that the fact that 25% of fastballs end up being put in play is more meaningful.

I dunno. First reaction is to say (from a limited sample) that Drew's bat has slowed down and he's now living off pitcher mistakes, that he can't catch up to a good fastball, but (small sample issues aside), I'm not sure there aren't a ton of other possible explanations. For all I know, Drew's numbers against sliders are worse than his numbers against curves (compared to other players). I'm hesitant to do more interpretation without context.

Others' thoughts?
   10. AJM Posted: May 12, 2008 at 12:15 PM (#2777711)
He’s one of the most promising young hitters in many years,

Huh?
   11. salvomania Posted: May 12, 2008 at 12:29 PM (#2777734)
Howard turns 30 next year...

I guess, depending on the context, that he's still a "young hitter"....
   12. Daryn Posted: May 12, 2008 at 12:31 PM (#2777738)
I like the called strike on the bottom left of the curveball chart.
   13. Replacement-Level Primate Posted: May 12, 2008 at 12:49 PM (#2777765)
Ryan Howard along with Prince Fielder could be the next Bonds and Griffey, Stargell and McCovey, Foxx and Gehrig or... this?
   14. Shooty misses Bill King Posted: May 12, 2008 at 12:57 PM (#2777775)
Ryan Howard along with Prince Fielder could be the next Bonds and Griffey, Stargell and McCovey, Foxx and Gehrig or... this?

Dude, that is racially insensitive. How about this?
   15. MSI Posted: May 12, 2008 at 01:51 PM (#2777821)
Or this:
http://www.generallyawesome.com/marshmallow_man.JPG

Side note: how do you do links?

Second side note: is it the rule of thumb that Latin players like by 3 years? I guess too much would be obvious, but how do we know he's not really 32 or something.
   16. jwb Posted: May 12, 2008 at 02:18 PM (#2777841)
could be the next Bonds and Griffey, Stargell and McCovey, Foxx and Gehrig.
Sim scores thinks the Cash, C. Fielder, Gentile, or Mo Vaughn career paths or more likely.
   17. jwb Posted: May 12, 2008 at 02:25 PM (#2777848)
Side note: how do you do links?
Click on the < a > button; follow the instructions (best to have the URL ready to paste). Your browser may whine about scripted windows.
   18. Walt Davis Posted: May 12, 2008 at 03:35 PM (#2777939)
1. I'm guessing whenever a player is slumping horribly, they aren't doing well on fastballs in the zone ... so I'm not sure this is telling us anything this early in the season. Don't get me wrong, as one of the few (the only?) to suggest that Howard's Ks were going to catch up with him and he couldn't keep hitting at his historic on-contact levels, I'm more than willing to believe this slump is "for real." But it takes more evidence.

2. The line about Bonds, Griffey, etc. was nuts if for no other reason than Howard's age. McCovey's not too much of a stretch though as he didn't become full-time until age 25 (brilliant move by the Giants!).
   19. JPWF13 Posted: May 12, 2008 at 06:11 PM (#2778083)
Unless it turns out he’s Dave Kingman.


He's got a much better batting eye than Kingman

But if you neutralize Kingmna's 1979 season to 2006 Philly you get: .297 .353 .631

If you neutrailze Cecil Fielder's 1990-92 seaosn to 2006 Philly you get:
.305/.410/.649
.280/.369/.547 and
.268/.353/.504

Hopward over the SAME ages has gone
.313/.425/.659 to
.268/.392/.584 to
.171/.280/.357 (so far)

not as close as I thought, but I still see Howard as the second coming of Cecil...
   20. JPWF13 Posted: May 12, 2008 at 06:20 PM (#2778091)
I'm more than willing to believe this slump is "for real." But it takes more evidence.


he's hitting .171/.280/.357, if this slump is for real, wow, just wow.
I didn't think his on contact numbers could hold up, because they were just so far out there, but I still thought we'd see a few years of .250/.350/.525 to .265/.365/.550 type performances
   21. Walt Davis Posted: May 12, 2008 at 08:32 PM (#2778272)
By suggesting his slump might be "for real" I didn't mean he's a true 170 hitter. That's why I put it in quotes. But I certainly don't blame you for not understanding that.

So what did I mean?

First, I assumed last year's rate of 2.5 AB per K was a fluke and he'd return to something a bit more "normal" ... but he's at it again. Second, I did assume that his "true" on-contact performance might well be in the 400/800 territory (Ruth/Thome). But if his slump is "for real" then maybe his "true" K-rate is around 40% of ABs and he's more like a "true" 360/720 hitter on-contact.

If he's gonna K in 40% of his ABs (not PAs, I'm too lazy for that), then even if he's 400/800 then that's a 240 BA and 480 SLG overall ... which is not that great for a slow, poor fielding 1B even with a lot of walks. If he's at 360/720, he'll be out of baseball soon (220/440) which doesn't seem possible to me.

The key point to me is that he simply can't continue to K in 40% of his ABs.

Are any of the high-K all-stars doing well this year?

Howard's been awful;
Wily Mo Pena's been awful;
Carlos Pena's been pretty mediocre;
Dunn has cut his K-rate but is having an off-year;
Cust has a lovely OPS+ but is hitting 263/432 -- it's walking once per 4 PA that's doing it for him -- though that SLG is still well above-average so far this year;
BJ Upton has brought his K-rate back to 1 per 4 and is doing nicely (still with quite high on-contact BA though);
Thome's pretty average but I'd put that on age -- his K-rate this year is pretty normal for him;
Mark Reynold's has come tumbling back to earth -- and the scary thing is he's putting up a nice 373/687 on-contact and still stinks.

I'm probably missing some. Cust is the only guy here still carrying a super-high K-rate and doing well but that's mainly the huge number of walks he's drawing (nothing wrong with that, it's a key to success for this type of hitter) and the 407 on-contact BA. There are a number of guys doing well on the cusp of the "unsustainable K-rate" (about 1 per 3.5) like Justin Upton, Dan Uggla and some others.

It's early yet of course and I don't mean that above list to conclusive in any sense. Guys like Thome and Dunn show you can have very productive careers with K-rates around 1 per 3 or 3.5 AB and it's possible that Howard will yet show you can push that out to 1 per 2.5. I just find it odd that it seems almost all the established high-K guys (who are still K'ing lots) are getting off to lousy starts.
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