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The only way this could have been better is if the message was: "I'm sometimes embarrassed to be called Shelley, but at least I'm not called Griffin"
Who spend all their spare time saying that things suck, IIRC.
sayingtexting that things suck, IIRC.Fixed.
Yeah, that sucks.
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John
It's right beside the "ANY" key.
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John
now where's my tab?
Also, the kid would probably think it was pretty cool that Duncan didn't just sign his name and actually wrote something mildly subversive.
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John
That would have gotten him his own stone in Monument Park.
Did the Maryland fans at least chant "Indoor Plumbing! [clap clap clap-clap-clap]"
But that's clouding the issue anyway. It's worse if the kid has less money? Better if he has more? Human interaction shouldn't be based on that. I don't give students worse grades for being rich. Is a Yankees player supposed to like the Red Sox?
You're forgetting about the basketball team. :)
This happens at a number of campuses -- Notre Dame, TCU, for instance. It's somewhat bizarre. I mean, the whole reason that Saturday is football day is that you don't interfere with classes. But now that the NCAA seems to think that there has to be a football game on every *&$%$#@ night of the week, classes are interfering with football. (Of course, people have been saying "classes are interfering with football" since Pudge Heffelfinger's day. It may be a line in Horse Feathers.)
They live in Swampscott and bought 3 tickets to a Yankees game in 2007 in September.
But you're right - it's clouding the issue.
Which is....I bet that autograph is worth a lot more now and will continue to be long after most people have no clue who Shelly Duncan is. It would be even more hilarious (possibly even more valuable) if Duncan ever ended up being a Red Sock.
Nah, he would need more creativity like: "Tell your mother her teeth hurt--and I'm healing nicely."
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John
I can't remember whether that was Diane on Cheers or the one who played Peter Pan.
The NCAA has nothing to do with that. The NCAA doesn't make the schedules for any of the schools. When ESPN goes to the individual schools (generally with the help of the people in the offices at the conference the school belongs to) and offers them money to play on a Wednesday or Thursday or Friday, the NCAA has no say in whether or not the schools say yes. And at this time there is no mechanism in place for them to forbid schools from playing those nights, and there never will be since the schools love the money those games bring in.
In short, there are plently of things for which the NCAA deserves blame. This is not one of them.
Funny, but I wasn't sure if it was the actor/comedian with the bad toupee or the guy who played John Coffey in The Green Mile.
That is..... sad.
For a 16-year-old? Yeah, hilarious.
Really, the reactions here are just.... -shudder- I need a shower.
I stand corrected, but: the body that could put such a mechanism in place is surely the NCAA. They have a host of extremely specific rules for when and where and who and how many practices and games can occur in each season. By omission, perhaps, but by very deliberate omission, they don't regulate what days of the week you can play football.
If they did, they'd be losing out on the money that they would get from these games, along with the universities. The NCAA isn't going to change weeknight games.
Even so, I'm guessing when Youkilis does this to McCoy's kid, he laughs it up, right? Uh-HUH ;-) Don't even talk to me about the Ethiopian thing. That's inapplicable. Are you going to tell that to some kid you kick in the face? "You're lucky you're not starving." That's awful logic.
It was a jerky thing to do. Being defended. That seems to be it.
Come on. If you have any sense of humor at all, this is funny.
It was a jerky thing to do if Duncan was actually trying to hurt the kids feelings, which I intuitively doubt because it seems more like a "Heh I play for the Yankees and you're a little kid all dressed in Sox stuff but I'll give you an autograph anyway" kinda joke.
And, second, I'd seriously question a kid whose feelings were really hurt because, essentially, a Yankee insulted the Red Sox. (It's not like he said anything about the kid. He didn't write "You suck." He wrote "Red Sox suck.")
Hell I remember meeting a bunch of Phillies pitchers and recieving flack from them because I had a Cubs hat on. It is all part of being a fan. Fans (and I guess players) of other teams give you junk about it. It isn't the end of world and it doesn't need to be fretted over.
And maybe I don't remember what it was like being a kid. But I think I do, and I know that if I'd gotten a signed baseball with "Red Sox suck" on it, every parent in the neighborhood would have been up in arms, and every kid in the neighborhood would have been trying to steal it from me. It would have been almost as talked about as the time in the seventh grade when Bruce Peterson taped a used rubber onto the outside of a girl's school locker with a note attached reading "You're next!"
Some things transcend the whole question of taste. The kid will survive.
The same thing happens in these situations. Something happens to the kid and he/she sees her parents freaking out about it and making it a big deal and so usually it then becomes a big deal to the kid. If the mom has simply laughed it off, this would merely be a funny story. Hell the kid in the story doesn't seem to think it is a big deal, the mom seems to be the one freaking out about it.
It reminds me of the Romney story where all the adults were freaking out about it and it appears the kid had made peace with it and had moved on.
We don't have kids of our own, but my wife and I have a five year old goddaughter that we saw almost every day between when she was two and four. She's incredibly graceful and athletic, and almost as soon as she learned to walk she wanted to run, and I mean run full speed.
One day when she was barely two, I fast walked her from my book shop down to the bike path and when we got there, I acted like a greyhound track pacing rabbit while she ran to keep up. And as you (McCoy) could have guessed, her shoelace came loose and she went WHAM!---flat on her face.
And I have no idea why I did this, but instead of consoling her, I picked up up immediately and started tickling her and laughing. And damned if she didn't start giggling herself. Never shed a tear, not one.
I agree the kid's parents are the ones who are the trouble here more than Duncan.
Kids are both stronger and weaker than adults. It's not that big a deal, despite all my bleating. I'm feeling a little bit of the protector of the weak today. I probably over-reacted. MAYBE. lol
It would have bummed ME out when I was 10. ;-)
If it helps you, the reactions from the people at the _Boston Herald_ site are much more along the lines of "Won't someone think of the children?!"
I understand why college football powerhouses schedule games against creampuffs, but why would West Virginia play Minnesota-Duluth anywhere in Maryland? One would think that if they were going to sell their souls to the TV networks for money, they'd at least schedule the game at home.
And make no mistake, they are selling their souls. Blaming the conferences is simply punting the responsibility upstairs. The conferences don't force their member schools to do anything. The member schools tell the conference what to do. If the ACC schools didn't want Thursday night games, then the Atlantic Coast Conference wouldn't schedule Thursday night games. As for the "they need the money" argument, cry me a river. At most universities, that money stays in the athletic department. The university as a whole doesn't benefit at all.
Really? The sight of people basically saying they don't think this is a big deal affects you to the point where you're looking around for a fainting couch? You're actually bothered by people not all expressing outrage at this?
Are you going to tell that to some kid you kick in the face? "You're lucky you're not starving." That's awful logic.
He didn't kick the kid in the face; he said the Red Sox suck. I'm certain the young man has heard that sentiment before. The two situations are completely different.
Is Duncan a horrible monster? No.
If this happened to my son, would I be kinda pissed? Yes.
As far as 49 and 53 go, please read 46.
The BTF cybernanny is gonna get to the office with a pretty long to-do list on her desk tomorrow morning.
Yep. I remember my mom being upset that I knew the word "sucks" (actually, I said, correctly, that "The Braves suck", which was true in 1984.) But I was 5, and it was a completely different time. This kid has seen internet porn almost to a guarantee. This kid has said the F word without a doubt. There is no loss of innocence here, and you can bemoan that, but it's true. Besides, if he hadn't ever heard the word, the exact wrong thing to do is to scream about how bad the word is, because now he knows it's "bad".
cum-gargler?
penis breath
Jeez, I just hope he's not a primate
I thought you were old enough that rubbers weren't even used when you were young. That whole Willie Nelson bit in Half Baked and all.
(Realizes there's little chance Andy has seen that movie)
Willie Nelson: I'm old enough to remember when a nickel bag cost a nickel.
Dave Chappelle: Oh, yeah?
WN: Yeah. And you know how much rubbers cost then?
DC: No.
WN: Me neither. We didn't use them!
IIRC our seventh grade cafeteria poem went something like this:
In days of old,
When knights were bold,
And rubbers weren't invented,
They tied a sock
Around their c*ck
And babies were prevented
Of course a bit later the best bit was a Lou Myers cartoon in The Realist that showed Alabama Governor Wallace getting a sudden phone call from Chairman Mao, who tells him that "500 million Chinese" are "coming to Amelica" to "sklew your white girls." "We going swim the ocean one by one....and we no wear Tlojans, Guvna, so you bletta watch out!"
So you're old enough that condoms were a reality, but over-the-top racism was acceptable. You're probably right about as old as my father would be, plus a couple of years (adjustment for North/South.)
Well unless you were the genius baby you were easily manipulated.
So you're old enough that condoms were a reality, but over-the-top racism was acceptable. You're probably right about as old as my father would be, plus a couple of years (adjustment for North/South.)
Well, condoms have been a reality for a lot longer than you apparently realize. My parents got married in 1931 and I came along in 1944. And since they weren't Catholic I doubt if they were using the rhythm method.
As for the Lou Myers cartoon, I hope I don't have to point out to you that it was a parody of George Wallace's paranoid thoughts about race-mixing and communism, and nothing else.
Yeah, and I'm sure you also remember those tin cans and strings we had that stretched from DC to California. Everyone (well, maybe not the bornagains) I knew in college had heard every single elementary school dirty joke, no matter what part of the country they came from. And I'm sure that there were variants of these jokes being told in medieval Russia.
parents
and condoms have been around for a LONG time. they used to be made out of intestine skin
I'm stumped.
Well, I know they were around for a long time, but I didn't know they were around to the point that a 7th grader in 1957 could get his hands on a used one.
As for the Lou Myers cartoon, I hope I don't have to point out to you that it was a parody of George Wallace's paranoid thoughts about race-mixing and communism, and nothing else.
Ah, I missed the George Wallace part, though to be honest, I have no concept of his stance on "race-mixing and communism", only race-mixing.
Jimmy Dugan
Indeed. Of course, to drive up demand, the mom had to go to the media with this. Seriously, the mom is nuts if she thinks this "harmed" her boy, but Duncan is still an asshat. MLB players should be nice to 10 year olds, end of story. The person (or persons) who should be angry about this is Steinbrenner and the Yankee business. Yankee players saying, "Red Sox suck" is funny, saying it to 10 year olds will piss a lot of people - including Yankee fans - off.
Oh, and Andy is so old he used rubbers made of wood.
And I'm still picking out all the splinters. Those suckers were brutal, especially in an unheated Volkswagen.
Just like George Washington???
I can't imagine how anyone could be so sure a 10-year-old kid is going to be able to see the humor behind it and laugh it off, to the point of excusing it being written. Yeah, in the coming days that kid's gonna be popular at school, and everyone's gonna want to see the ball; but does anyone really think that was going through Duncan's head when he wrote it? Come on. Besides, that kind of rationalization could be used to defend Billy Beane taking a dump in the kid's hat. (Of course the cool kids at school would want to know if it's true that it doesn't work in the playoffs.)
Duncan likely wrote it to amuse himself. And if acting to mess with the emotions of a 10-year-old is the kind of thing that amuses him, he's pretty shallow. It's one of those things that's funny on a theoretical level but plainly not an idea worth acting on.
I think it was both funny AND rude for Duncan to do that, and I think the joke would've gone over a lot better if he'd pulled it on an older kid.
that would have been funny
But trust me, it really wasn't, at least not for the ten year olds themselves. And you can make that 50 years ago, and probably a lot longer than that. Playground kids and street kids have always--ALWAYS--been foul mouthed. At least the boys, and in lots of neighborhoods the girls, too.
The ONLY difference is that words like this are now used more openly outside peer groups, and in the media. In that, it's like night and day between now and 50 years ago. But that's a completely different issue.
Furtado would have made a great Saturday Evening Post editor back in the Norman Rockwell era. Not that I particularly mind his current nannyisms---it keeps my asterisking in stroke for all those Bonds threads.
I don't disagree -- I can't imagine that this will harm the kid in any way -- but the fact the kid has probably heard and used the word (and much worse) 1,000,000+ times already doesn't mean that it wasn't a rude thing for Duncan to do. Nor does it mean that the mother is wrong for getting upset. (what if the kid already has a filthy mouth and the mother is trying to get him to use less profanity. Duncan's comment isn't going to help her case.) The fact that Duncan acted like a 10 year old doesn't make the behavior more acceptable.
But I agree with Vlad -- it was funny and rude.
Doesn't that cut both ways?
Wasn't that his point?
I was in the left field boxes at Camden Yards with my son and nephew on a cold April evening several years ago. The Yankees were cuffing the O's around pretty good, and some college kids a couple rows back of us tried to start up a "Yankees suck" chant. My son, maybe seven at the time, stood up, turned around, stared right at them and said, "Then why do they kick your butts all the time?" I'm sitting there trying to decide whether to laugh or hush him, but the next thing I knew, the guys were buying me a beer and cokes for the kids.
And why should Duncan care what the mother is trying to do with her son? If you are a parent and you thrust your kid upon strangers and demand that strangers be role models for their kids then that kid is going to suffer some bumps and bruises at the very least along the way.
Rats, you caught me. If Kevin Youkilis wrote "Yankees suck" on a ball he autographed for a 10-year-old Yankee fan, it would seriously elevate his stature in my eyes. There's nothing that impresses me more than a guy in his late 20s who has the maturity level of my son's fifth-grade classmates.
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