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Monday, April 09, 2007

Z’s comment brews trouble :: CHICAGO SUN-TIMES :: Cubs

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‘He’s full of [it] anyway,’’ Brewers second baseman Rickie Weeks said Sunday. ‘’You can’t believe a word that man says. But that [stuff] happens. He pitched good, but we’ll see what happens next time.’’

While explaining the difference between his poor outing last Monday in Cincinnati and his good one Saturday, Zambrano said the key was the quality of the lineups he was facing.

‘’In Cincinnati, they’re better hitters than in Milwaukee,’’ he said. ‘’I don’t say that the Milwaukee Brewers are nothing, but the offense of the Cincinnati Reds is better.’’

Jim Furtado Posted: April 09, 2007 at 09:58 AM | 18 comment(s)
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   1. Hang down your head, Tom Foley  Posted: April 09, 2007 at 09:09 AM (#2329747)
I'm hungover, so I feel like [it] this morning. Maybe I just need to take a [stuff].
   2. Charles S., enjoys the sparking period  Posted: April 09, 2007 at 09:09 AM (#2329748)
Nothing like getting the rivalry going early. But the Cubs better expect the same comments when some pitcher shuts them out after getting lit up by the rest of the league.
   3. Slinger Francisco Barrios (Dr. Memory)  Posted: April 09, 2007 at 09:31 AM (#2329778)
Cincinnati's offense is better...in Cincinnati. But so's everybody's.
   4. Pops Freshenmeyer  Posted: April 09, 2007 at 09:35 AM (#2329782)
Actual quote from the article:

''Seriously, that guy doesn't have much etiquette as far as I'm concerned. Zero mound presence. We'll face him a lot, and maybe we'll get him next time.''
   5. Justin T  Posted: April 09, 2007 at 09:54 AM (#2329804)
Zambrano obviously is lacking in the etiquette department. His act is so pathetic and juvenile out there. But he's doing it for my fantasy team this year, so now I find it sort of amusing.
   6. Slinger Francisco Barrios (Dr. Memory)  Posted: April 09, 2007 at 09:55 AM (#2329809)
And hell, everybody's gonna look like they're taking out frustrations when Wade Miller is on the mound.
   7. Harveys Wallbangers  Posted: April 09, 2007 at 10:03 AM (#2329820)
Carlos Zambrano, the new Joaquin Andujar. I enjoyed Joaquin very much so certainly appreciate what Zambrano brings to the game.
   8. Thomas Richard Hamilton Nugent  Posted: April 09, 2007 at 11:00 AM (#2329875)
Carlos' "act" is fun when he's pitching for your team. Personally, I think it's awesome to have a pitcher who cares that much. And based on his performance last year with runners in scoring position, I think his high strung attitude actually makes him a better pitcher. Still, I could see how it could be galling for a player or fan to watch a pitcher who celebrates when things go well for him.


As for his comments, I'm not a fan. I'd prefer it if Carlos let his playing (and gesticulating) do the talking. I don't think the Brewers have a player as good as Dunn, but 1-8 in the lineup Milwaukee is at least comparable, if not better than the Reds.
   9. Harveys Wallbangers  Posted: April 09, 2007 at 11:10 AM (#2329888)
As a follow up to Thomas' comment, Carlos is no different than the other pitchers of a similar nature such as Andujar and Jose Lima. When going well they rub it in at every opportunity and when pitching poorly they sulk, pout, and in general act like the typical five year old who was told to not eat the Silly Putty. Which means the lad is highly entertaining no matter the circumstances.

By my reckoning Zambrano is now 8-7 in his career against the Brewers with an ERA right around 4. In case anyone is interested.
   10. Dayton Moore is a Big Fat Idiot (AG#1F)  Posted: April 09, 2007 at 11:27 AM (#2329905)
I hope Zambrano gets to play for Ozzie Guillen sometime in his career. That should make for hilarious times.
   11. Kiko Sakata  Posted: April 09, 2007 at 11:56 AM (#2329928)
I hope Zambrano gets to play for Ozzie Guillen sometime in his career. That should make for hilarious times.

Based on Zambrano, Guillen, and Hugo Chavez, Venezuela seems like it'd be a fun country to visit.
   12. The District Attorney  Posted: April 09, 2007 at 11:58 AM (#2329933)
Don't forget Ugueth!
   13. Kiko Sakata  Posted: April 09, 2007 at 12:00 PM (#2329939)
Don't forget Ugueth!

I'm not sure "fun" is the word that comes to mind when I think about Ugueth.
   14. Sidd [bleeping] Finch (SuperBaes)  Posted: April 09, 2007 at 12:18 PM (#2329969)
I'm not sure "fun" is the word that comes to mind when I think about Ugueth.

You must be a gardner, Kiko.
   15. Rich Rifkin I  Posted: April 09, 2007 at 01:03 PM (#2330058)
By my reckoning Zambrano is now 8-7 in his career against the Brewers with an ERA right around 4. In case anyone is interested.

That's right. (I looked it up: 8-7, 4.17 ERA.) It's notable that he has a better career mark against the Reds, 8-6, 3.06 ERA; and last year, Zambrano was hit harder by the Brewers (6.35 ERA, 1.68 WHIP, .276 BAA) than he was by the Reds (3.76 ERA, 1.38 WHIP, .209 BAA).
   16. Slinger Francisco Barrios (Dr. Memory)  Posted: April 09, 2007 at 02:23 PM (#2330264)
I actually don't recall any sulking from Zambrano, but perhaps I haven't been paying enough attention.

Also, from what I recall, Andujar took his exile to Oakland like a man.
   17. Harveys Wallbangers  Posted: April 09, 2007 at 02:39 PM (#2330300)
Doc:

I have had the pleasure of seeing Carlos be Mr. PoutyPants after a lowly Brewer has whacked one of his offerings into the gap.

It's up to the Crew to show this young man the error of his ways. And if Carlos shoves another game up Milwaukee's rectum good for him.
   18. Slinger Francisco Barrios (Dr. Memory)  Posted: April 10, 2007 at 07:33 AM (#2330944)
I have had the pleasure of seeing Carlos be Mr. PoutyPants after a lowly Brewer has whacked one of his offerings into the gap.

We may be discussing semantics, then. To me, that reaction you describe is disgust at himself for letting it happen. I see sulking as more of a self-pitying kind of thing. YMMV.
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