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Monday, January 16, 2006

2006 ZiPS Projections and Disk for DMB 9.0, Build 1

To load the disk into DMB 9.0, create a new empty database, select “restore” and then choose the zip file.  Everything else here is self-explanatory.

2006 ZiPS Projection Spreadsheet for Excel

2006 ZiPS Projections for DMB 9.0

For the disk, as this is the first build, it’s simply a list of all the players and their appropriate teams.  The latter is up-to-date to the best of my ability - no doubt that with 2000 players and minor league transactions reported very poorly, there will be some mistakes, so by all means, speak up when you come across them.

Dan Szymborski Posted: January 16, 2006 at 09:37 PM | 188 comment(s)
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   101. Dan Szymborski Posted: January 20, 2006 at 01:01 AM (#1829708)
I only gave out a few more EX ratings than DMB. Just happened the Blue Jays outfield is really good. I wonder how many teams ever have such a separation between their outfield and infield defense? Gave their infield AV/AV/FR/FR and there is justification for making Adams/Glaus PR/PR, though I think FR is better until they're bad again in 2006.

I'll review some more of my EX ratings before next build.
   102. Spivey Posted: January 20, 2006 at 01:09 AM (#1829718)
Oakland probably benefits most if there's "double-counting" of defense, but I like what I see.

They do. And Texas gets hosed most (especially since Teixeira is listed as average). This happened last year too.

Yeah, I wouldn't consider these official. This is just a trial run.

Did you set starting lineups & pitching staffs for each team? If so, would you mind sending me all those MP's?


C - Kendall - AV/FR arm
1B - Swisher - VG
2B - Ellis - EX
3B - Chaves - VG
SS - Crosby - VG
LF - Kielty/Payton - AV/VG
CF - Kotsay - AV
RF - Bradley - EX (I might change this down to a VG)


The difference between Excellent and Very good is negligible in the outfield. The difference between Excellent and Very good is very big in the infield. The difference between Average and Very good is big at almost all positions.

1B - Swisher - VG

I don't want to call you an idiot, but for listing Swisher as a better 1B than Teixeira.... there's no other way to describe it.
   103. Dan Szymborski Posted: January 20, 2006 at 01:44 AM (#1829763)
Teixiera would have had a VG based on 2005 alone, but he was much worse in 2004 or 2003. I feel Swisher will be a really good defensive 1B - if enough people think I'm out there, I'll move Swish down to AV (I'm not wed to any rating)
   104. Spivey Posted: January 20, 2006 at 02:56 AM (#1829858)
Why do you think Swisher's going to be so good at 1B defense?

Teixeira at least has 1 very good season under his belt - Swisher has none.

Teixeira has great reflexes and athleticism for a 1B, and is incredible at scooping balls. Scouts like Teixeira's defense too, so I just don't really see any basis for having Teixeira lower.

What in particular are you basing your decision for putting Teixeira below Swisher?

As for Teixeira's ZR in 2004... it was worse, but it was worse for a lot of people. His ZR was still the 4th best in the majors for 1B with significant time. And he's the best I've seen in baseball (although I'm biased towards AL over NL) in scooping low throws (and this is something that ZR and UZR don't measure, IIRC). Teixeira's 2003 ZR was also above average - and keep in mind he hadn't been playing 1B for that long.

He deserves to be a very good.

And given how conservative you are at giving out very goods, Swisher does not deserve to be. You considered Teixeira an average with 1 very good season and 2 average ones (although, it's more like 1 excellent season, 1 very good season, and 1 above average season) - Swisher is unproven.

If you're giving Swisher a Vg because of a hunch of because of scouting reports, it's very unfair to many other players you're not giving the same benefit of the doubt (because I think you're very conservative with your ratings, and for good reason).
   105. Bad Doctor Posted: January 20, 2006 at 09:53 AM (#1829933)
I don't know if those ratings are right, but if so, that's the best defensive DMB team I've ever seen.

I don't know if they still make those Greatest of All Time disks, but the '80 Phillies on GOAT 2 were amazing, even with Luzinski.
   106. Danny Posted: January 20, 2006 at 01:06 PM (#1830216)
If you're giving Swisher a Vg because of a hunch of because of scouting reports, it's very unfair to many other players you're not giving the same benefit of the doubt (because I think you're very conservative with your ratings, and for good reason).


I don't know if it's "fair" or not (I don't know what other prospects' projections are), but BA raves about Swisher's defense at 1B.

This is from his 2002 pre-draft scouting report: Swisher spent most of this season in the outfield to hone his athletic skills, but first base is his natural position. He has J.T. Snow-caliber skills there.

And from his 2004 Oakland Prospects report: Swisher is sound defensively with good instincts and an average arm. While he has played just six games at first base as a pro, he’s a potential Gold Glove candidate at that position, though Oakland currently has no plans of moving him from the outfield.

Finally, the 2004 PCL Top Prospects: He'd be a Gold Glove candidate if Oakland moved him to first base. He's very competitive, along the lines of a Paul O'Neill, and did a better job channeling his intensity this year.

As for the rest of the team, I'd probably move Crosby a notch down and consider moving Chavez a step up.
   107. The Jerry Royster Experience Posted: January 20, 2006 at 01:11 PM (#1830223)
I'd probably move Crosby a notch down and consider moving Chavez a step up.

I'd probably bump Ellis a notch down, but I would probably be a lot more stingy with the "EX"'s than Dan is (probably the only 2B in MLB I'd give an EX to would be Hudson).
   108. SG in ATL Posted: January 20, 2006 at 01:16 PM (#1830231)
Incidentally, I just found out why Florida simmed so bad. They had 12 position players and 6 pitchers active.
   109. Dan Szymborski Posted: January 20, 2006 at 01:23 PM (#1830249)
I told ya the disk wasn't ready for sims!
   110. Danny Posted: January 20, 2006 at 01:34 PM (#1830270)
I'd probably bump Ellis a notch down, but I would probably be a lot more stingy with the "EX"'s than Dan is (probably the only 2B in MLB I'd give an EX to would be Hudson).


Ellis had a better UZR/150 than Hudson in 2005 (+15 to +12), and he's above Hudson in Tango/MGL's 1999-2003 true talent UZR ratings (+17 to +10). Dial had Ellis ahead in 2005, as well (+11 to +2).

I'd say he's at least on Hudson's level.
   111. The Jerry Royster Experience Posted: January 20, 2006 at 01:39 PM (#1830280)
I'd say he's at least on Hudson's level.

Okay, I'll take your word for that - you've seen him a lot more than I have.

I still haven't seen a defensive metric that I have any confidence in.
   112. Danny Posted: January 20, 2006 at 01:49 PM (#1830300)
Ellis looks great by my eye, but I haven't seen Hudson (or many other 2B) enough to compare that way. I also don't trust my eye a whole lot when it comes to defense.
   113. Spivey Posted: January 20, 2006 at 03:34 PM (#1830533)
He'd be a Gold Glove candidate if Oakland moved him to first base. He's very competitive, along the lines of a Paul O'Neill, and did a better job channeling his intensity this year.

There are a lot of gold glove candidates in the majors right now you're giving averages. Like Teixeira, who has already won a gold glove. So this explanation isn't really adequate in my opinion.

Incidentally, I just found out why Florida simmed so bad. They had 12 position players and 6 pitchers active.

So did you not set lineups or anything of that sort for these early runs?
   114. SG in ATL Posted: January 20, 2006 at 03:44 PM (#1830550)
So did you not set lineups or anything of that sort for these early runs?


No, I didn't do any of that. I ran the automatically generated pitching and lineup things for most of the AL teams, but the NL is always an afterthought to me.
   115. Dan Szymborski Posted: January 20, 2006 at 03:46 PM (#1830554)
I'm moving Teixiera to VG.
   116. Spivey Posted: January 20, 2006 at 04:01 PM (#1830579)
In the infield, being excellent is like +20 runs over the average fielder (although at SS, it might be closer to +15) on DMB. So, if you're going to give someone an excellent, I think you need to have sufficient reason to think that their true talent level is about +20 for ZR and UZR, and has been great for a couple of years.

I'd give Rolen an excellent, although coming back from injury and getting older I'm not even convinced that's a slam dunk. Ellis would probably be the only other non-SS infielder I'd consider giving an excellent, but might not since he's on the border and ZIPS already accounts for defense. I know that Dan said he's conservative on the DER he uses, and is conservative on the defensive ratings here, but I don't think he's been conservative for Oakland that that can lead to them get a significant boost.

For SS I'd probably give Adam Everett an Excellent, and that's about it. Maybe Uribe.

Based on the numbers I posted in this thread, Oakland is +61 runs above average on defense. That's over 6 wins above average, on top of the fact DER has already been included. If I run sims, I plan on adjusting a few of these guys. Now Chavez, Crosby, Ellis, and Bradley all *could* be considered what they're rated at here - but they're definitely not conservative and it's rounding up for all of them, in my opinion. With DER already factored in, I wouldn't expect any team's fielding to be above +40, maybe even closer to +30-35.
   117. Spivey Posted: January 20, 2006 at 04:06 PM (#1830586)
No, I didn't do any of that. I ran the automatically generated pitching and lineup things for most of the AL teams, but the NL is always an afterthought to me.

Well it's worth mentioning that for the Rangers, 2 of their starters, Loe and Dominguez, are being farmed in the current file. Of course, with the ZIPS projections of Diamond and Riley, that probably doesn't hurt them. Also, Kinsler is likely going to be their starting 2B.
   118. Spivey Posted: January 20, 2006 at 04:10 PM (#1830592)
I'm moving Teixiera to VG.

Yay.
   119. The Jerry Royster Experience Posted: January 20, 2006 at 05:15 PM (#1830737)
BA raves about Swisher's defense at 1B.

Scouting reports are fun.

I just picked up the Sporting News Baseball Register, which has subjective scouting reports:

Michael Young - Young is one of the league's best shortstops. Is very fluid with quick footwork and agility to either side. Can adjust his stride very well when going after the ball. Hands are quick and soft. Has a quick release and with very good carry. Has good arm strength from the hole.

Steve Finley - Finley still gets good jumps on the ball and takes consistent routes. Has good closing speed to the gaps and comes in on the ball well. Rarely makes a defensive mistake. Has a quick release and is accurate.

To be fair, they don't praise everyone. The book is down on Soriano, for instance, as well as Sosa and Giambi.
   120. Cheer and boo and raise a hullabaloo Posted: January 20, 2006 at 06:35 PM (#1830871)
Swisher spent most of this season in the outfield to hone his athletic skills, but first base is his natural position. He has J.T. Snow-caliber skills there.

So he has a skill that will make him perennially overrated as a first baseman?
   121. Spivey Posted: January 20, 2006 at 07:49 PM (#1830953)
I've been playing with some empty databases of DMB - from what it looks like, when DMB generates an event table, it is stripping quite a lot of my DER based pitching stats

What do you mean by 'stripping'? You mean it's removing DER's influence?
   122. Dan Szymborski Posted: January 20, 2006 at 09:25 PM (#1831059)
To a good extent, yes.
   123. Gaelan Posted: January 20, 2006 at 10:41 PM (#1831131)
Just for interests sake here are some diamondmind ratings at the position these guys have been mentioned:

Ellis: Ex
Hudson: Vg
Swisher: Pr
Teixeira: Vg
Everett: Ex
Uribe: Vg
Crosby: Vg
   124. Vaux, A.B.D. Posted: January 20, 2006 at 11:05 PM (#1831143)
Hmmm, Diamond and Riley project better than Dominguez and Loe do, in fact.

Still, those early runs must have a lot of playing-time problems, mostly in the area of players being used who their teams should use but won't.
   125. The Hop-Clop Goes On (psa1) Posted: January 21, 2006 at 06:27 AM (#1831320)
Along the lines of the 18-man Marlins roster, there are some not-sim-ready aspects of the Brewers roster as well...Matt Wise is in the minors while Demaria is on the roster; Fielder is in the minors, which presumably leaves them with Hart starting every day. Sims were more friendly to Milwaukee when I adjusted those few things.
   126. Vaux, A.B.D. Posted: January 21, 2006 at 06:45 AM (#1831321)
Has anyone simmed a properly-adjusted Texas yet?
   127. Spivey Posted: January 21, 2006 at 03:39 PM (#1831620)
Has anyone simmed a properly-adjusted Texas yet?

I simmed 3 seasons worth. They were simming .500. I set their lineup, pitching staff, and everything (did this, to the best of my knowledge, for all the AL West teams, but no other teams). I would still wager there are some defense issues, although I made some adjustments on Oakland's defensive ratings. Oakland was simming as the best team in baseball (though to be fair to STL, NYY, etc. I wasn't setting up their teams) - around a .590-.600, and was giving up a comically low number of runs.

Also, since ZIPS already adjusts for park, and then you put them in their park, it might double count park effects - not sure how much this would change things, if it indeed does happen.
   128. Spivey Posted: January 21, 2006 at 03:40 PM (#1831622)
My computer is not fast enough to even think of doing these 100 sims evaluations, though.
   129. Dan Szymborski Posted: January 21, 2006 at 05:02 PM (#1831697)
lso, since ZIPS already adjusts for park, and then you put them in their park, it might double count park effects - not sure how much this would change things, if it indeed does happen.

No, the event table generates the input stats as being for that park.
   130. Jim Wisinski Posted: January 21, 2006 at 05:09 PM (#1831706)
Is Gomes really playing RF this season for the Rays?

Assuming Maddon is smarter than Piniella, yes. I highly doubt Young will begin the season with the Rays so Gomes should play in RF until the call-up, then he'll slide to DH.
   131. Vaux, A.B.D. Posted: January 21, 2006 at 05:11 PM (#1831709)
Based on that, Spivey, I'd guess that the Rangers would probably win and the A's lose 3-4 more games than the sim says, but that's a really quick and dirty guess.
   132. Spivey Posted: January 21, 2006 at 05:42 PM (#1831750)
Based on that, Spivey, I'd guess that the Rangers would probably win and the A's lose 3-4 more games than the sim says, but that's a really quick and dirty guess.

I'd say Oakland should project about 90 wins, Seattle should project worse (they're another team that's got a very well rated defense), and Texas should project better.

My 3 sims were jiving pretty well with what SG in ATL projected. Basically, Oakland was winning around 95 games a year, and were giving up more than 50 fewer runs than the #2 team in runs allowed.
   133. CoastalFan Posted: January 22, 2006 at 12:20 AM (#1832206)
My latest run has 4 of the 5 Rockies starting pitchers with ERA's under 5 - that is scary. Also, it's showing some ZIPS love for David Bush in Milwaukie - he keeps getting 15+ wins and a sub - 3.50 ERA!
   134. Cheer and boo and raise a hullabaloo Posted: January 22, 2006 at 06:38 PM (#1833053)
D/Ling this and playing with it for just a few minutes reminded me of why I quit playing DMB a couple of years ago. I spend more of my time shuffling players in and out of rosters than I do actually playing any games. I don't understand why they can't have some function that automatically promotes the top 25/30/35 guys or whatever on all the rosters so I wouldn't have to spend hours trying to figure it out. It seems like it should be nigh-trivial at this point, given that they have the auto-manager profiles already. </complaining>
   135. Cheer and boo and raise a hullabaloo Posted: January 22, 2006 at 06:39 PM (#1833055)
D/Ling this and playing with it for just a few minutes reminded me of why I quit playing DMB a couple of years ago. I spend more of my time shuffling players in and out of rosters than I do actually playing any games. I don't understand why they can't have some function that automatically promotes the top 25/30/35 guys or whatever on all the rosters so I wouldn't have to spend hours trying to figure it out. It seems like it should be nigh-trivial at this point, given that they have the auto-manager profiles already. [/complaining]
   136. Mooser Posted: January 22, 2006 at 09:18 PM (#1833327)
Dont know if any one else starting simming after this potential Coco Crisp trade- but it dramatically improves Boston adding about 10 wins per sim.
   137. bibigon Posted: January 22, 2006 at 09:28 PM (#1833344)
I just quickly ran 24 seasons with some more realistic rosters, giving every team 25 guys, and I also processed the Coco Crisp trade.

I can't figure out how to post this with any clarity, so I'll give the highlights, and wait for someone to tell me how to actually post things in a way that makes some sense.

Red Sox: 95.2 wins
Yankees: 85.3
Blue Jays: 82.8

White Sox: 79.5
Cleveland: 86.9
Twins: 86.3

Oakland: 99.5
Seattle: 82.7
Angels: 80.3

Mets: 91.3
Braves: 78.8
Phillies: 88.1
Marlins: 72.9

Cubs: 84.8
Cardinals: 93.0

San Francisco: 85.1

No other teams above .500. Only 24 runs compared to SG's 100, but I think the 25 man rosters should help the accuracy. I'll leave this to run for a hundred times overnight, maybe tweak the rosters a bit more.
   138. SG in ATL Posted: January 22, 2006 at 09:35 PM (#1833357)
Mooser, I just started running some with updated lineups and with the Crisp and Benson trades.

bibigon, I don't like to run with just the 25 man roster because you have to assume that there will be injuries and missed time and teams will have innings and AB going to lesser players. I usually run with at least 30.
   139. bibigon Posted: January 22, 2006 at 09:46 PM (#1833371)

bibigon, I don't like to run with just the 25 man roster because you have to assume that there will be injuries and missed time and teams will have innings and AB going to lesser players. I usually run with at least 30.


Hmm. Good point, I hadn't considered this.

This also makes things much more difficult however, as I don't know enough about each team's depth charts to get 30 man rosters which have much relationship to reality.
   140. Mooser Posted: January 22, 2006 at 09:57 PM (#1833382)
bibigon. MLB.com has some pretty good up to date depth charts.

SG: I sim with no injuries and set rosters at 25. It assumes the best case scenario for each team. Perhaps this is the wrong approach.
   141. Spivey Posted: January 22, 2006 at 09:58 PM (#1833384)
I just quickly ran 24 seasons with some more realistic rosters, giving every team 25 guys, and I also processed the Coco Crisp trade.

Did you use Erstad in CF?
   142. bibigon Posted: January 22, 2006 at 10:00 PM (#1833391)
bibigon. MLB.com has some pretty good up to date depth charts.


MLB.com's depth charts only seem to cover the 25 man rosters. Those I'm familiar enough with already. The question is about the extra 5 guys to deal with injuries/etc...
   143. bibigon Posted: January 22, 2006 at 10:17 PM (#1833420)
Did you use Erstad in CF?


Nope. Forgot to. I'll do that for my next batch tonight.

Thanks for the heads up.
   144. SG in ATL Posted: January 22, 2006 at 10:34 PM (#1833445)
I sim with no injuries and set rosters at 25. It assumes the best case scenario for each team. Perhaps this is the wrong approach.

Actually, if you're trying to assess the true talent of the team, this may be a better approach. I don't think there's any "best" way to do these.
   145. bibigon Posted: January 22, 2006 at 11:42 PM (#1833555)
How exactly does one turn off injuries anyways?
   146. bibigon Posted: January 23, 2006 at 11:25 AM (#1834129)
The results were fairly similar after 100 runs.


Red Sox: 94.5 wins
Yankees: 86.2
Blue Jays: 83.9

White Sox: 84.3
Cleveland: 86.6
Twins: 84.2

Oakland: 98.0
Seattle: 81.2
Angels: 84.7

Mets: 89.0
Braves: 82.0
Phillies: 85.7
Marlins: 71.1

Cubs: 86.8
Cardinals: 96.9

San Francisco: 85.1
LA: 82.2

No other teams were above .500
   147. ColonelTom Posted: January 23, 2006 at 12:16 PM (#1834190)
Dan, great work as always. A couple of corrections and some housekeeping for the next build:

Shane Victorino (PHI) is a switch-hitter (Baseball Cube has this wrong - he started switch-hitting a few years ago)
Ryan Madson (PHI) needs a starter rating
Ricky Nolasco (FLA) should have a relief rating (I believe he's rumored as a closer possibility)
Adam Dunn (CIN), Lance Berkman (HOU) - primary position 1B
Ryan Speier (COL) - needs relief rtg
Jeremy Bonderman (DET) - switch relief rating to starter rating

Also, I'm doing 29-man rosters and depth charts for each team now - let me know if you'd like them for your next build. Thanks Dan!
   148. Dan Szymborski Posted: January 23, 2006 at 02:08 PM (#1834374)
Tom, I'm actually mostly done my 25-man depth charts. How about tackling manager profiles? I hate doing those!
   149. The Jerry Royster Experience Posted: January 23, 2006 at 02:17 PM (#1834389)
How about tackling manager profiles?

I picked up a Sporting News guide that actually listed manager tendencies for the 2005 season (defensive changes, stolen base tendencies, how long pitchers were left in, etc.)

If I have time tonight, I'll put up some details.
   150. NetOwl Posted: January 23, 2006 at 03:52 PM (#1834556)
Quite nifty stuff. Thanks, Dan.
   151. Eternal Posted: January 23, 2006 at 08:10 PM (#1835032)
Is there a way to automate the sim process? That is, set DMB to run 100 simulations and have it tally the average results?

-Chris
   152. BobbyMac Posted: January 24, 2006 at 12:19 AM (#1835395)
Small note - in spreadsheet, you have McCann's age listed as 26 (and he's shown as RHB as noted above for the sim).
   153. Vaux, A.B.D. Posted: January 24, 2006 at 12:24 AM (#1835402)
Madson doesn't need a starter rating.... the Phillies 'need' a setup man.
   154. Dan Szymborski Posted: January 24, 2006 at 12:43 AM (#1835422)
McCann's fixed here, but i haven't uploaded any new builds.
   155. GotowarMissAgnes Posted: January 24, 2006 at 07:13 PM (#1836660)
Great work, gang. I'm interested in those under .500 too (Go, O's) as well as the runs scored/allowed projections, if anyone has them.
   156. ColonelTom Posted: January 24, 2006 at 07:52 PM (#1836736)
Tom, I'm actually mostly done my 25-man depth charts. How about tackling manager profiles? I hate doing those!

If someone (Jerry Royster Experience?) can point me to a good resource, I'll give it the ol' college try!
   157. The Jerry Royster Experience Posted: January 24, 2006 at 10:11 PM (#1836849)
This is managerial information from the Sporting News Baseball Register and Fantasy Handbook (we'll see how this formats) -

Stolen Base Information

Name            Games    Attempts  Success 
%   Pitchout                                                     Percentage -
                                                
rnr mv     2nd sb-cs    3rd sb-cs   Hm sb-cs   Dbl Stl   0 out  1 out  2 out 

Bell
Buddy      112       48       70.8          1           32-12        2-2        0-0         0       10.4   29.2   60.4
Francona
Terry  162       57       78.9          1           42-12        3-0        0-0         0       22.8   24.6   52.6
Gardenhire
Ron  162      146       69.9          4           85-39       17-4        0-1         4       30.1   35.6   34.2
Gibbons
John    162      107       67.3          1           58-32       13-2        1-1         3       14.0   41.1   44.9
Guillen
Ozzie   162      204       67.2          7          115-61       21-5        1-1         3       22.1   36.3   41.7
Hargrove
Mike   162      149       68.5          3           87-42       13-4        2-1         7       15.4   38.3   46.3
Macha
Ken       162       53       58.5          1           29-20        2-1        0-1         0       15.1   34.0   50.9
Pena
Tony        33       27       48.1          1           13-12        0-1        0-1         0       25.9   33.3   40.7
Perlozzo
Sam     55       41       58.5          1           20-15        4-2        0-0         1       14.6   43.9   41.5
Piniella
Lou    162      200       75.5         13          129-43       22-5        0-1         6       21.0   36.5   42.5
Schaefer
Bob     17       11       54.5          0            5-5         1-0        0-0         1       18.2   54.5   27.3
Scioscia
Mike   162      218       73.9          9          149-47       12-8        0-2         5       22.0   33.5   44.5
Showalter
Buck  162       82       81.7          2           61-14        6-1        0-0         1       19.5   35.4   45.1
Torre
Joe       162      111       75.7          0           67-20       17-7        0-0         9       25.2   42.3   32.4
Trammell
Alan   162       94       70.2          6           61-24        5-3        0-1         2       23.4   34.0   42.6
Wedge
Eric      162       98       63.3          5           55-30        6-5        1-1         0       18.4   41.8   39.8


More information than is strictly necessary, I know, but I thought it was neat.

I don't know if it's cool to post too much of the stuff in this book (copyrights and all), but this is the sort of information that's in there.
   158. BreakOut Posted: January 24, 2006 at 10:41 PM (#1836867)
Great stuff!

On paper, probable NL keeper team looking pretty competitive in 2006.

Let McLouth Outh!

Thanks,
BreakOut(h)
   159. The New Gloucester Whaler Posted: January 27, 2006 at 01:26 AM (#1840093)
SG,

Are you willing to make available the spreadsheet that you made to compile these runs, like you did last year? Unfortunately, the system I had that sheet on blowed up real good, and I don't have it anymore.
   160. The New Gloucester Whaler Posted: January 27, 2006 at 02:36 AM (#1840167)
Forget the request, SG. I found the link from last year, and got the file there. Thanks again. You still grace us with your work.
   161. Alan H Posted: January 27, 2006 at 12:39 PM (#1840410)
Hello, Mr. Szymborski. LTLFTC. Anyway, I told Hutcheson to pester you about Brian McCann's age in the ZiPS spreadsheet, but I'm apparently going to have to do it myself.

Brian McCann will be 22 this season (B-day: 02/20/1984), not 26 as you have him listed. I suspect that this might change his projection in a very favorable way since a 25 year-old hitting 278/345/400 in his first stint in the bigs is like a rich man's Johnny Estrada while a 21 y.o. doing the same is, um, more interesting.

P.S. You have Kelly Johnson's projection completely wrong. He's going to hit approx. 399/650/1002 this year.
   162. Dan Szymborski Posted: January 27, 2006 at 02:59 PM (#1840578)
Hey Alan!

Brian McCann is updated in my spreadsheet and disk, I just haven't uploaded it (which will be updated in my 2nd build). I'm totally confused as to who's biographical info I ended up using for McCann on the disk. I double-checked and he is projected for his correct age year, however.
   163. Dan Szymborski Posted: January 27, 2006 at 03:09 PM (#1840596)
Hey JRE - do you have any more of those tables?
   164. The Jerry Royster Experience Posted: January 27, 2006 at 03:12 PM (#1840601)
Hey JRE - do you have any more of those tables?

Sure - they're at home, though. I'll see what I can put up this weekend.
   165. Russ Posted: January 29, 2006 at 08:23 AM (#1842489)
I disagree about the size of the rosters. You should definitely use 30-man, as the 25-man DOES represent the best case scenario. That is obviously overly optimistic. It will penalize teams like the Pirates who are consistently mediocre all the way down to their 45th man. With the notable exceptions of Zach Duke and Jason Bay, every single one of the Pirate players are replaceable this year with someone of relatively equal (or, in some cases, better) quality. I think that is why they have their best shot at .500 this year. Now, hopefully Burnitz gets suspended for steroids or drug use or something, which would improve the team by about 3 wins.
   166. Dan Szymborski Posted: January 29, 2006 at 10:34 AM (#1842505)
The reason I use 25-man rosters is that I like to play the games myself. If someone has 30-man rosters, I can submit that to SG in a month or so for the bigass "official" simming.
   167. SG in ATL Posted: January 30, 2006 at 11:20 AM (#1843694)
Results of 100 runs with 30 man rosters + injuries (including the Piazza signing). I set up pitching staffs and lineups for every team. If anyone wants it you can grab it here.

High    Low
Team            W       L       RF      RA      DIV     WC      DIV
%    WC%     Made%   MissedWins    Wins
American League
East
Boston          92      70      879     740     76      6       76
%     6%      82%     18%     105     77
New York(A)     85      77      821     786     14      16      14%     16%     30%     70%     99      70
Toronto         83      79      748     740     9       14      9
%      14%     23%     77%     99      65
Baltimore       73      89      733     809     1       1       1
%      1%      2%      98%     89      54
Tampa Bay       70      92      711     827     1       0       1
%      0%      1%      99%     85      59
                                                                                                
Central
Minnesota       86      76      719     674     38      9       38
%     9%      47%     53%     100     70
Cleveland       84      79      775     732     23      7       23
%     7%      30%     70%     102     70
Chicago
(A)      82      80      746     727     20      4       20%     4%      24%     76%     103     68
Detroit         82      80      764     760     19      5       19
%     5%      24%     76%     95      68
Kansas City     65      97      680     829     0       0       0
%      0%      0%      100%    86      44
                                                                                                
West
Oakland         96      66      767     617     88      6       88
%     6%      94%     6%      109     79
Los Angeles
(A)  85      77      722     691     7       23      7%      23%     30%     70%     100     68
Texas           80      82      800     812     3       7       3
%      7%      10%     90%     94      65
Seattle         79      83      710     750     2       5       2
%      5%      7%      93%     94      60
                                                                                                
National League
East
New York(N)     90      72      782     702     53      14      53%     14%     67%     33%     105     72
Philadelphia    89      73      751     676     38      22      38
%     22%     60%     40%     105     75
Atlanta         81      81      736     734     8       8       8
%      8%      16%     84%     94      68
Washington      75      87      683     735     2       0       2
%      0%      2%      98%     89      59
Florida         70      92      645     737     0       1       0
%      1%      1%      99%     86      57
                                                                                                
Central
St
Louis       96      66      768     628     79      10      79%     10%     89%     11%     109     82
Chicago
(N)      85      77      735     696     8       15      8%      15%     23%     77%     100     72
Pittsburgh      82      80      711     707     8       9       8
%      9%      17%     83%     96      65
Milwaukee       80      82      704     716     5       4       5
%      4%      9%      91%     97      63
Houston         74      88      682     757     0       3       0
%      3%      3%      97%     89      59
Cincinnati      69      93      760     870     0       1       0
%      1%      1%      99%     85      53
                                                                                                
West 
Los Angeles
(N)  87      75      748     701     59      5       59%     5%      64%     36%     106     71
San Francisco   83      79      732     716     28      6       28
%     6%      34%     66%     98      68
Arizona         77      85      729     771     7       1       7
%      1%      8%      92%     95      63
Colorado        76      86      787     842     2       3       2
%      3%      5%      95%     90      65
San Diego       75      88      675     718     5       1       5
%      1%      6%      94%     94      61
   168. Cheer and boo and raise a hullabaloo Posted: January 31, 2006 at 12:41 PM (#1845262)
Very interesting. Thanks for all the work. It's interesting how in the AL Central, almost everyone averages 80-odd wins, but 3 of them have a max wins of 100+. I guess it's not that unusual for an 80-odd win team to max out at over 100 wins, but it looks strange bunched up in one division.

I'm pretty sure someone goes over this every year, but how are you doing all the sims? Are you running each one-by-one, and manually pasting the stats into Excel? Or is there some way to get it to run automatically?
   169. bteribery Posted: January 31, 2006 at 03:42 PM (#1845605)
I just wanted to point out that newly signed Alex Gonzalez of the Red Sox does not appear on the ZIPS file for DMB. There is an Alex Gonzalez listed but I believe that references a 33 year old 3b who last played with Tampa Bay. Not the 28 yr old shortstop who played with Florida and was just signed by Boston.
   170. SG in ATL Posted: January 31, 2006 at 04:18 PM (#1845662)
I'm pretty sure someone goes over this every year, but how are you doing all the sims?


I wrote a program that automates running Diamond Mind and can output the reports automatically. Then I wrote a macro in an Excel spreadsheet that rolls it all up when you're done. It's all pretty much automated at this point.

I just wanted to point out that newly signed Alex Gonzalez of the Red Sox does not appear on the ZIPS file for DMB.


He's on there with his nickname, "Sea Bass".
   171. Vaux, A.B.D. Posted: January 31, 2006 at 05:39 PM (#1845776)
Is that with Madson in the Phillies' rotation?
   172. bibigon Posted: January 31, 2006 at 06:01 PM (#1845816)
SG, can you repost that link? It doesn't seem to work...

The link to your 30 man rosters.

Thanks.
   173. Cheer and boo and raise a hullabaloo Posted: February 01, 2006 at 12:11 AM (#1846136)
SG, is the automate-DMB program and Excel macro something you could share?

bibigon, I got the link to work by going to yousendit.com and pasting the link into their thing. Then they give you a new link that you can paste into your browser, which lets you d/l the file.
   174. SG in ATL Posted: February 01, 2006 at 10:28 AM (#1846350)
SG, is the automate-DMB program and Excel macro something you could share?


Sure, why not. Here's the link, which will be good for a week. I included the updated 30 man rosters in here through the Piazza and Gonzalez signings.

If someone wants just the rosters, the link is here.
   175. SG in ATL Posted: February 01, 2006 at 10:42 AM (#1846364)
Vaux, to answer your question, yes I made Madson the third starter and gave him average durability.
   176. Vaux, A.B.D. Posted: February 01, 2006 at 10:45 AM (#1846368)
Thanks, SG!
   177. Cheer and boo and raise a hullabaloo Posted: February 01, 2006 at 12:56 PM (#1846535)
Wow, looks awesome, SG. Thanks very much. Documentation, too!
   178. Spivey Posted: February 09, 2006 at 01:55 AM (#1855790)
Dan: When do you plan on doing the second build?
   179. Dan Szymborski Posted: February 10, 2006 at 01:03 PM (#1857603)
Soon.
   180. scotto Posted: February 10, 2006 at 01:18 PM (#1857623)
SG, would you be willing to repost that link?
   181. SG in ATL Posted: February 11, 2006 at 12:25 PM (#1858692)
Sure scotto.

ZiPS 30 man rosters. Updated through the Davanon and Heredia coups, and now with the 2006 schedule. This link is permanent and I'll try to update it when anything newsworthy happens.

Macro for batch running Diamond Mind. Instructions are in the zip. This link will expire in 7 days.
   182. scotto Posted: February 11, 2006 at 04:54 PM (#1858905)
You're the man SG! Thank you very much.
   183. harrball Posted: February 17, 2006 at 03:02 AM (#1865669)
I've taken SG's 30 man and turned them into 25's, assigned players to the AAA affiliates.
I've also gone back and fixed some misplaced minor leaguers, and a couple major leaguers.

You can grab a copy here

btw, the minor league profiles are auto generated
   184. Dan Szymborski Posted: February 17, 2006 at 09:37 AM (#1865774)
What players were moved? If there are some misplaced players, I'd like to make sure they're fixed on my disk.
   185. harrball Posted: February 18, 2006 at 01:53 AM (#1866934)
Here are the changes I've made - some have already been noted here, or were well publicized moves that happened after Dan's build/SG's updates. I've been using this site to find some transactions that I don't typically find elsewhere (likely for lack of knowing where else to look)
   186. CoastalFan Posted: February 21, 2006 at 10:25 PM (#1871062)
Do we use harrball's 25 man rosters the same as the Zips files? create a new data
base and import, basically?
   187. harrball Posted: February 22, 2006 at 04:31 PM (#1871660)
CoastalFan, that's right. Just import it like you did with the original build.
   188. battlekow Posted: March 06, 2006 at 06:19 PM (#1886045)
Jason Repko is 1 year old?
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