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Monday, November 06, 2006

2007 ZiPS Projections - Kansas City Royals


Name                     P  Age   AVG   OBP   SLG   G  AB   R   H 2B 3B HR RBI  BB   K SB CS 
Alex Gordon*             3b  23  .275  .361  .473 139 491  63 135 35  1 20  72  56 137 15  4 
Ryan Shealy              1b  27  .288  .349  .479 128 451  71 130 30  1 18  77  39 128  2  1 
Mark Teahen*             3b  25  .277  .349  .461 145 505  77 140 34  7 15  72  56 119  8  1 
Mike Sweeney             dh  33  .275  .338  .470  88 334  42  92 23  0 14  54  29  50  2  0 
Billy Butler             rf  21  .292  .339  .447 142 535  68 156 36  1 15  79  35  94  1  0 
Emil Brown               rf  32  .281  .343  .438 139 498  67 140 32  2 14  69  45  94  6  2 
David DeJesus*           lf  27  .287  .355  .431 128 501  81 144 31  4 11  55  46  76  8  6 
Justin Huber             1b  24  .272  .337  .456 127 430  57 117 27  2 16  60  42 106  4  3 
Esteban German           2b  29  .290  .359  .386 108 352  66 102 19  3  3  39  37  53 15  5 
Doug Mientkiewicz*       1b  33  .255  .342  .383 101 329  41  84 22  1  6  36  42  51  2  1 
Reggie Sanders           rf  39  .252  .312  .438  80 274  39  69 16  1 11  38  23  71  8  3 
Chris Lubanski*          lf  22  .259  .323  .421 159 591  80 153 39  6 15  67  55 152  8  6 
Chad Allen               rf  32  .286  .327  .409  93 350  35 100 21  2  6  46  21  59  4  5 
John Buck                c   26  .251  .307  .432 116 387  47  97 20  1 16  51  29  87  1  1 
Mark Grudzielanek        2b  37  .288  .327  .382 117 458  64 132 27  2  4  42  25  62  2  2 
Mike Coolbaugh           1b  35  .237  .305  .421  87 304  47  72 17  0 13  46  28  72  2  1 
Jeff Keppinger           2b  27  .286  .338  .360 115 419  48 120 17  1  4  35  33  27  3  3 
Shane Costa*             lf  25  .267  .305  .401 129 446  46 119 29  2  9  43  21  52  5  0 
Mitch Maier*             cf  25  .260  .303  .419 148 554  78 144 40  3 14  71  32 111  9  8 
Joey Gathright*          cf  26  .269  .335  .330 135 409  66 110 16  3  1  32  37  78 29 15 
Angel Berroa             ss  29  .252  .288  .365 136 507  59 128 21  3 10  50  20  94  7  4 
Mike Aviles              3b  26  .246  .284  .365 133 480  53 118 26  2  9  49  25  52  7  5 
Kila Kaaihue*            1b  23  .219  .300  .315 137 447  50  98 22  0  7  46  50 103  0  1 
Angel Sanchez            ss  23  .256  .300  .322 146 571  85 146 25  2  3  43  34  64  5  7 
Dee Brown*               rf  29  .233  .278  .347 127 429  47 100 18  2  9  47  19 104  7  5 
Donnie Murphy            2b  24  .224  .265  .368  97 353  35  79 22  1  9  31  17  64  3  3 
Paul Phillips            c   30  .241  .279  .335  92 319  34  77 13  1  5  30  16  36  1  2 
Andres Blanco#           ss  23  .231  .283  .293 124 376  35  87 12  4  1  26  24  50  3  5 
Rick Bell                1b  28  .225  .262  .310 114 378  36  85 18  1  4  31  18  70  2  2 
Paul Bako*               c   35  .201  .265  .224  48 134   9  27  3  0  0   9  11  39  0  1 

* - Bats Left
# = Switch-Hitter

Player Spotlight (Beta) - Alex Gordon
Name               AVG   OBP   SLG   G  AB   R   H 2B 3B HR RBI  BB   K SB CS
Optimistic (15%)  .294  .393  .519 150 530  79 156 42  1 25  87  70 137 21  3
Mean              .275  .361  .473 139 491  63 135 35  1 20  72  56 137 15  4
Pessimistic (15%) .247  .323  .412 124 437  47 108 27  0 15  54  43 132  9  4

Name                     Age    ERA   W   L   G  GS     INN    H   ER  HR   BB    K 
Joe Nelson                32   4.35   3   2  54   0    60.0   56   29   6   29   56 
Joel Peralta              31   4.50   2   3  56   0    66.0   68   33   9   21   51 
Luke Hudson               30   4.57   8   9  31  20   128.0  130   65  13   47   84 
Esteban Yan               32   4.70   2   2  51   0    69.0   71   36   9   30   47 
Odalis Perez*             30   4.75   7   7  29  24   142.0  159   75  17   36   86 
Ryan Braun                26   4.76   4   5  48   0    70.0   72   37   8   35   49 
Zack Greinke              23   4.76   8  10  28  27   157.0  175   83  22   42   95 
Scott Dohmann             29   5.05   3   3  61   0    66.0   66   37  10   31   63 
Todd Wellemeyer           28   5.05   2   4  39   5    73.0   75   41   8   42   53 
Luke Hochevar             23   5.09   7   9  22  22   122.0  122   69  17   67  101 
Leo Nunez                 23   5.14   3   4  52   0    77.0   83   44  11   29   51 
Billy Buckner             23   5.16   7  11  29  29   164.0  176   94  19   86  111 
Andrew Sisco*             24   5.16   2   3  66   0    68.0   70   39   8   37   59 
Denny Tamayo              28   5.17   7   9  25  23   134.0  149   77  22   45   83 
Jimmy Gobble*             25   5.17   6   8  43  17   120.0  134   69  18   41   72 
Ed Yarnall*               31   5.25   3   5  24  13    84.0   91   49  11   37   58 
Mark Redman*              33   5.32   8  13  31  31   176.0  204  104  21   64   92 
Ambiorix Burgos           23   5.38   4   5  69   0    72.0   76   43  13   36   71 
Brandon Duckworth         31   5.39   6  10  26  20   122.0  138   73  15   48   73 
Brian Bass                25   5.40   6   9  21  20   115.0  131   69  14   50   63 
Scott Elarton             31   5.41   6  10  27  27   153.0  171   92  26   56   83 
Andy van Hekken*          27   5.42   4   7  25  17   103.0  117   62  13   42   56 
Jorge de la Rosa*         26   5.55   5   8  32  18    99.0  107   61  13   52   70 
Runelvys Hernandez        29   5.69   9  16  31  30   166.0  192  105  22   77   86 
Bob Keppel                25   5.84   4   7  21  14    91.0  118   59  13   27   31 
Ken Ray                   32   5.95   1   2  59   0    56.0   63   37   8   33   32 
Barry Armitage            28   6.32   2   5  40   1    74.0   87   52  10   40   44 
Juan Cedeno*              23   6.78   3   7  34  10    85.0   96   64  10   77   45 

* - Throws Left

Player Spotlight (Beta) -  Zach Greinke
                    ERA   W   L   G  GS  INN    H   ER  HR   BB    K 
Optimistic (15%)   4.02  11  10  31  30  177  184   79  21   41  112
Mean               4.76   8  10  28  27  157  175   83  22   42   95
Pessimistic (15%)  5.77   5  10  23  23  128  153   82  24   39   76

Disclaimer:  ZiPS projections are computer-based projections of performance.  
Performances have not been allocated to predicted playing time in the majors - 
many of the players listed above are unlikely to play in the majors at all in 2007.  
ZiPS is projecting equivalent production - a .240 ZiPS projection may end up 
being .280 in AAA or .300 in AA, for example.  Whether or not a player will play 
is one of many non-statistical factors one has to take into account when predicting 
the future.

Players are noted with their most recent teams unless Dan has made a mistake.

ZiPS is projecting based on the AL having a 4.51 ERA and the NL having a 4.37 ERA.
Dan Szymborski Posted: November 06, 2006 at 03:27 PM | 32 comment(s)
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   1. Dayton Moore is a Big Fat Idiot (AG#1F)  Posted: November 06, 2006 at 03:46 PM (#2232435)
I think Shealy will hit for more HR power than projected.

Berroa is probably even worse than what you projected him for.

Projecting Greinke is like throwing darts. I have no idea what we should expect out of him. You could say the same thing for Mark Teahen, Andrew Sisco, Ambriorix Burgos, and Luke Hudson.

The potential of a really good lineup, but the pitching is still positively putrid.
   2. Kyle S  Posted: November 06, 2006 at 03:59 PM (#2232447)
Wow. Highest projected OBP is from a rookie, and it's only .361. Highest projected SLG under .480. Not a lot of reason to be optimistic, imho, except for gordon.
   3. Kyle S  Posted: November 06, 2006 at 04:01 PM (#2232453)
put it this way - check out the other zips projections - do you see any where the highest HR total is 20? yikes.
   4. Dan Szymborski  Posted: November 06, 2006 at 04:06 PM (#2232456)
The next time you overhear someone talking about your favorite team and saying "strikeouts are overrated, x team needs to stop worrying about the sex factor of strikeouts and start teaching pitching to contact," make sure to point the Royals to them.
   5. Azteca  Posted: November 06, 2006 at 04:07 PM (#2232457)
The vets #s--Sanders, Grudz & Brown--also look pretty ugly. It's going to take a lot of work to move those guys off the roster.

Also, I wonder if German is really capable of a .359 OBP? I suppose he'll start the year as a utility, but he could easily work his way into an everyday role.
   6. bibigon  Posted: November 06, 2006 at 04:11 PM (#2232462)
Is a 4.35 ERA going to be the worst ERA projected to lead a team?
   7. bibigon  Posted: November 06, 2006 at 04:18 PM (#2232469)
Alex Gordon also has the weakest OPS of any team leader posted so far.

Any chance the Royals grab #1 spots in these rankings?
   8. Dan Szymborski  Posted: November 06, 2006 at 04:20 PM (#2232471)
Is a 4.35 ERA going to be the worst ERA projected to lead a team?

I'd be shocked if it wasn't! It was really funny doing the Angels right after the Royals. A 4.35 ERA ranks *12th* on the Angels (behind K-Rod, Weaver, Shields, Carrasco, Escobar, Lackey, Donnelly, Santana, Romero, Gregg, and Bulger).

Odalis Perez is the best projected full-time starter here, at a 4.76 ERA and I have the Angels having a whole rotation plus one better than that (Weaver, Escobar, Lackey, Santana, Saunders and Colon in that order).
   9. HowardMegdal  Posted: November 06, 2006 at 04:22 PM (#2232473)
Also, isn't the general consensus that Gordon will start next season at AAA?
   10. Dan Szymborski  Posted: November 06, 2006 at 04:24 PM (#2232475)
Any chance the Royals grab #1 spots in these rankings?

Pretty good, especially with the pitchers.
   11. The Answer to the TWolves (GMoney)  Posted: November 06, 2006 at 04:26 PM (#2232477)
I got Gathright for $16 in a 10 team AL only league. I was debating keeping him but a .335 OBP just isn't worth carrying him for the stolen bases. My mind could be changed though. I already have a bunch of wimps on that team in Luis Castillo ($14), Y. Betancourt ($3), Aaron Hill ($5), BJ Upton ($9)..I could pretty much wrap up SB if I kept Gathright though assuming he doesn't get benched.
   12. Garth has been one-uped by Brian Bannister  Posted: November 06, 2006 at 04:32 PM (#2232478)
Thanks for the work, Dan. That's good stuff.

The top nine hitters: Gordon, Shealy, Teahen, Sweeney, Butler, Brown, DeJesus, Huber, German. That's 3B, 1B, 3B (but really, CornerOF/DH), 1B/DH, CornerOF/DH, CornerOF/DH, CF, 1B/CornerOF/DH, 2B.

DeJesus and German aside, that's 2-3 third basemen, 2-3 first basemen, 3-4 corner outfielders, 4-5 designated hitters. Just awesome.

I'm woefully unread in ZiPS -- what work does it base Greinke's projection on? I ask because he's a sample size demon, but his latest work in the minors would indicate that he is probably back to 'normal', if not an itch better. But, of course, that involves very small sample sizes all the way up.

And finally, 32, 31, 30, 32, 30 -- the ages, respectively, of the top five projected pitchers. Hooray.
   13. Garth has been one-uped by Brian Bannister  Posted: November 06, 2006 at 04:35 PM (#2232482)
Also, isn't the general consensus that Gordon will start next season at AAA?

Yeah, but Moore keeps talking about special players pushing teams' hands. So, he'll probably start at Triple-A, but sometime in 2007 he'll invariably be up.
   14. Dayton Moore is a Big Fat Idiot (AG#1F)  Posted: November 06, 2006 at 04:41 PM (#2232486)
Any chance the Royals grab #1 spots in these rankings?

Pretty good, especially with the pitchers.


Probably. This was a pretty bad team last year and these numbers are based on past performance, correct?
   15. AROM  Posted: November 06, 2006 at 04:43 PM (#2232489)
I'd be shocked if it wasn't! It was really funny doing the Angels right after the Royals. A 4.35 ERA ranks *12th* on the Angels

Makes perfect sense, given that #2 on the Royals wasn't considered good enough for the Angels to keep him.

Watching the Royals is sad. I remember the days when they, not Oakland, were our nemesis. But while I despise the A's, I always liked Brett, Saberhagen, White, and the Quis.
   16. Juan V has had a good baseball year  Posted: November 06, 2006 at 04:47 PM (#2232494)
The coolest thing to me is, a guy who has zero MLB plate appearances is projected to be their best hitters. Yeah, he is that good, and this team is that bad.
   17. AROM  Posted: November 06, 2006 at 04:53 PM (#2232498)
The coolest thing to me is, a guy who has zero MLB plate appearances is projected to be their best hitters.

And its a result that you probably won't even find anyone arguing against.
   18. Azteca  Posted: November 06, 2006 at 05:07 PM (#2232508)
given that #2 on the Royals wasn't considered good enough for the Angels to keep him


Not to beat a dead horse, but the Angels, recently, also didn't consider Jenks & Turnbow 'good enough to keep'. Peralta isn't a bad pitcher.
   19. battlekow  Posted: November 06, 2006 at 05:28 PM (#2232517)
I wouldn't really recommend using Derrick Turnbow as a trump card right now. Or as a closer.
   20. karkface killah  Posted: November 06, 2006 at 07:23 PM (#2232633)
Mike Coolbaugh 1b 35 .237 .305 .421 87 304 47 72 17 0 13 46 28 72 2 1

Ah hell. . . I thought we had a Scott Coolbaugh siting.
   21. karkface killah  Posted: November 06, 2006 at 07:25 PM (#2232637)
Ed Yarnall! Brandon Duckworth! Scott Elarton!

Serious good times for Royals fans!
   22. DTS  Posted: November 07, 2006 at 03:52 PM (#2233161)
Any chance the Royals grab #1 spots in these rankings?

I thought you were going to ask "Any chance the Royals grab the #1 spot in the '08 draft?" Answer: yes.
   23. DTS  Posted: November 07, 2006 at 03:55 PM (#2233163)
Ed Yarnall! Brandon Duckworth! Scott Elarton!

In 1999 or so, this would have been an exciting trio.
   24. Astro-Bonilla  Posted: November 07, 2006 at 06:43 PM (#2233252)
Are you sure these are accurate? The Royals...have a decent young line-up? They are making progress? I never thought I'd see the day.
   25. Astro-Bonilla  Posted: November 07, 2006 at 06:45 PM (#2233253)
I think it is time to trade Krudz:

Jeff Keppinger 2b 27 .286 .338 .360 115 419 48 120 17 1 4 35 33 27 3 3
Mark Grudzielanek 2b 37 .288 .327 .382 117 458 64 132 27 2 4 42 25 62 2 2
   26. Astro-Bonilla  Posted: November 07, 2006 at 06:48 PM (#2233255)
The top nine hitters: Gordon, Shealy, Teahen, Sweeney, Butler, Brown, DeJesus, Huber, German. That's 3B, 1B, 3B (but really, CornerOF/DH), 1B/DH, CornerOF/DH, CornerOF/DH, CF, 1B/CornerOF/DH, 2B.

DeJesus and German aside, that's 2-3 third basemen, 2-3 first basemen, 3-4 corner outfielders, 4-5 designated hitters. Just awesome.
Are the Royals smart enough to try to make some deals for what they need-know that they finally don't need everything? I would assume no, but I also didn't expect them to have so many league average hitters.
   27. Ivan Grushenko of Hong Kong  Posted: November 08, 2006 at 01:27 AM (#2233343)
Did the Royals radically alter the dimensions of their park in 2006 to benefit hitters? If so their hitters really really suck.
   28. Mike Emeigh  Posted: November 08, 2006 at 01:55 PM (#2233484)
I think it is time to trade Krudz


Not with these pitchers. You need all the gloves you can get.

-- MWE
   29. Spute  Posted: November 08, 2006 at 03:06 PM (#2233536)
Did the Royals radically alter the dimensions of their park in 2006 to benefit hitters? If so their hitters really really suck.


No, they didn't. They were moved back a few seasons ago; They're at original dimensions right now.
   30. Dayton Moore is a Big Fat Idiot (AG#1F)  Posted: November 08, 2006 at 03:22 PM (#2233545)
Are the Royals smart enough to try to make some deals for what they need-know that they finally don't need everything? I would assume no, but I also didn't expect them to have so many league average hitters.

Remember, Allard Baird is gone. I expect Dayton Moore to be very active this off-season. I've been pleased with his moves thus far but this winter will be a test of his skills.
   31. Azteca  Posted: November 09, 2006 at 03:18 PM (#2234102)
Why are the Rockies hoarding ex-Royal arms? Ascencio, Bautista, Affeldt, Cerda & Field all came out of KC's system, I believe. A few came via trade, but other's of these didn't.
   32. Spute  Posted: November 10, 2006 at 06:20 PM (#2235001)
Why are the Rockies hoarding ex-Royal arms? Ascencio, Bautista, Affeldt, Cerda & Field all came out of KC's system, I believe. A few came via trade, but other's of these didn't.


That's a good question. It's probably... NOT a good idea. They've also been blowing money on Jose Mesa and Ray King, so who knows what the hell they're doing?
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