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Wednesday, January 09, 2008

2008 ZiPS Projections - Chicago Cubs

It always feels to me like I should be mocking them for something, but there just isn't a lot for me to complain about. The Cubs aren't an elite organization, but I think they're still the best in the Central and don't have any gaping holes. This team wouldn't compete in the AL East or Central and would need some luck in the AL West, but they don't have to worry about that. When I look at the roster, I feel like there are only a few players that Ed Wade would sign for the Astros, which is a Very Good Thing - much is made about teams with ex-Cubs not winning the World Series, but I think the current-Astros curse will be considerably more potent the next couple of years. Really, the only thing I can whine about is the team just doesn't like Matt Murton.

No, I will not projection Josh Vitters.


Name                     P  Age   AVG   OBP   SLG   G  AB   R   H 2B 3B HR RBI  BB   K SB CS 
Derrek Lee               1b  32  .300  .382  .517 123 460  76 138 32  1 22  78  57  97  7  3 
Aramis Ramirez           3b  30  .292  .354  .531 138 524  78 153 32  3 29 100  46  62  1  1 
Kosuke Fukudome*         rf  31  .293  .382  .460 120 457  66 134 33  2 13  67  64 100  1  1 
AVERAGE 1B ------------- 1b ---- .282  .359  .489 ------------------------------------------
Alfonso Soriano          lf  32  .286  .336  .527 141 588  97 168 39  2 33  99  39 133 28  9 
Matt Murton              lf  26  .289  .360  .465 156 471  71 136 27  1 18  63  51  67  3  0 
AVERAGE LF ------------- lf ---- .281  .352  .469 ------------------------------------------
AVERAGE RF ------------- rf ---- .280  .349  .471 ------------------------------------------
Geovany Soto             c   25  .284  .342  .483 139 458  44 130 29  1 20  73  41 109  0  0
AVERAGE 3B ------------- 3b ---- .277  .346  .457 ------------------------------------------
AVERAGE CF ------------- cf ---- .275  .339  .433 ------------------------------------------
AVERAGE 2B ------------- 2b ---- .279  .340  .422 ----------------------------------------- 
Micah Hoffpauir*         1b  28  .265  .321  .459 105 370  36  98 22  1 16  61  30  65  2  1 
Mark DeRosa              2b  33  .276  .349  .405 125 417  56 115 23  2  9  55  43  83  1  2
Daryle Ward*             1b  33  .263  .342  .413  87 179  21  47 12  0  5  30  21  35  0  1 
AVERAGE SS ------------- ss ---- .277  .332  .415 ------------------------------------------ 
Mike Fontenot*           2b  28  .268  .333  .412 144 456  65 122 29  5  9  48  44  86  7  4 
Matt Craig#              3b  27  .256  .326  .421 122 399  44 102 26  2 12  52  38 103  3  1 
Felix Pie*               cf  23  .269  .321  .429 148 539  71 145 27  7 15  61  40 122 20  9 
AVERAGE C --------------- c ---- .263  .324  .412 ------------------------------------------
Josh Kroeger*            rf  25  .257  .307  .439 129 456  49 117 28  2 17  59  31 118  8  4 
Jake Fox                 c   25  .254  .301  .439 124 465  43 118 30  1 18  64  23 113  5  2 
Sam Fuld*                cf  26  .261  .329  .377 114 403  59 105 28  2  5  34  36  62 14  3 
Eric Patterson*          2b  25  .264  .318  .406 151 571  73 151 27  6 14  61  44 103 28 11 
Steve Clevenger*         1b  22  .281  .321  .362  93 334  36  94 18  0  3  29  20  29  1  1 
Ryan Theriot             ss  28  .266  .324  .348 143 492  71 131 25  3  3  42  41  51 25  4 
Ronny Cedeno             ss  25  .271  .312  .398 141 462  52 125 20  3 11  48  26  86  9  7 
Henry Blanco             c   36  .235  .286  .383  51 149  14  35  8  1  4  20  10  26  0  0 
Koyie Hill#              c   29  .237  .292  .351  64 194  17  46 13  0  3  20  15  35  1  1 
Casey McGehee            3b  25  .243  .288  .361 140 502  42 122 30  1  9  53  32  95  1  3 
Brian Dopirak            1b  24  .233  .278  .370 106 386  26  90 23  0 10  42  22 111  1  1 
Tyler Colvin*            cf  22  .236  .267  .380 136 518  50 122 33  3 12  60  18 143 17  9 
Nate Spears*             2b  23  .222  .289  .297 130 414  46  92 18  2  3  29  32  80  7  2 
Chris Walker             cf  27  .247  .289  .329 100 356  35  88 13  2  4  29  19  82 17 13 
Ryan Harvey              rf  23  .210  .239  .365  95 353  28  74 16  0 13  40  12 106  2  1 

* - Bats Left
# = Switch-Hitter

Name               CThr 1b 2b 3b ss lf cf rf 
Lee                     Av                   
Ramirez                       Av             
Fukudome*                           Vg Av Vg 
Soriano                             Vg Av    
Murton                              Av    Fr 
Soto               Av   Av                   
Hoffpauir*              Av          Fr    Fr 
DeRosa                     Av Vg Pr Av    Av 
Ward*                   Fr          Pr    Pr 
Fontenot*                  Av Av Pr          
Craig#                  Av    Pr             
Pie*                                Vg Av Vg 
Kroeger*                Fr          Fr    Fr 
Fox                Fr   Av          Pr    Pr 
Fuld*                               Vg Vg Vg 
Patterson*                 Fr       Av Av Av 
Clevenger*         Fr   Av                   
Theriot                    Av Av Av Av    Av 
Cedeno                     Av    Av          
Blanco             Vg   Av                   
Hill#              Av                        
McGehee            Pr   Av    Fr             
Dopirak                 Av                   
Colvin*                             Vg Av    
Spears*                    Av                
Walker                              Av Fr Av 
Harvey                              Vg    Vg       

Player Spotlight - Derrek Lee
Name               AVG   OBP   SLG   G  AB   R   H 2B 3B HR RBI  BB   K SB CS  OPS+ DR
Optimistic (15%)  .327  .414  .578 129 483  92 158 41  1 26  94  67  88 10  3  150   3   
Mean              .300  .382  .517 123 460  76 138 32  1 22  78  57  97  7  3  127   0
Pessimistic (15%) .270  .343  .458 111 415  59 112 27  0 17  63  45  97  4  4  102  -2  

Top Near-Age Offensive Comps: Pedro Guerrero, Bob Watson

Player Spotlight - Felix Pie
Name               AVG   OBP   SLG   G  AB   R   H 2B 3B HR RBI  BB   K SB CS  OPS+ DR
Optimistic (15%)  .302  .362  .505 160 582  92 176 35 10 21  92  54 112 29  6  119   8   
Mean              .269  .321  .429 148 539  71 145 27  7 15  61  40 122 20  9   89   5    
Pessimistic (15%) .239  .282  .364 130 473  50 113 21  4 10  52  28 116 11  9   63   1 

Top Near-Age Offensive Comps: Corey Patterson, Dave Martinez

Name                     Age    ERA   W   L   G  GS     INN    H   ER  HR   BB    K 
Bobby Howry               34   3.16   7   6  76   0    74.0   65   26   7   17   67 
Mike Wuertz               29   3.33   4   3  69   0    73.0   60   27   7   32   84 
Carlos Zambrano           27   3.70  14  11  32  32   207.0  177   85  22  100  189 
Kerry Wood                31   3.72   2   1  30   0    29.0   23   12   4   14   33 
Carlos Marmol             25   3.77   5   3  77   0    86.0   71   36  10   50   93 
Scott Eyre*               36   3.81   2   1  67   0    59.0   53   25   6   31   60 
Rich Hill*                28   3.88  10   9  31  29   181.0  160   78  27   60  190 
Neal Cotts*               28   4.08   2   2  59   0    64.0   58   29   7   35   58 
Carmen Pignatiello*       25   4.24   3   3  56   0    70.0   68   33   8   28   57 
Ted Lilly*                32   4.24  12  12  31  31   176.0  165   83  25   67  158 
Ryan Dempster             31   4.25   5   5  70   0    72.0   68   34   7   34   62
LEAGUE AVERAGE RELIEVER ------ 4.36 ----------------------------------------------- 
Jose Ascanio              23   4.50   3   4  49   3    88.0   91   44   8   39   55 
Angel Guzman              26   4.64   3   3  17  12    66.0   67   34   8   28   56 
Juan Mateo                24   4.64   6   9  29  23   130.0  134   67  16   45   93 
LEAGUE AVERAGE STARTER ------- 4.78 -----------------------------------------------
Sean Gallagher            22   4.91   6   9  29  24   143.0  144   78  16   79  104 
Sean Marshall*            25   4.97   6   8  22  21   116.0  124   64  17   49   75 
Jason Marquis             29   5.06   9  14  30  29   176.0  189   99  28   66   96 
Les Walrond*              31   5.11   5   8  25  19   118.0  128   67  17   52   77 
Billy Petrick             24   5.12   2   2  37   0    51.0   54   29   9   19   34 
Wade Miller               31   5.14   2   3  13  13    63.0   67   36   9   32   45 
Steve Trachsel            37   5.20   5  10  23  23   128.0  141   74  19   57   62 
Adam Harben               24   5.61   3   7  21  17    93.0  103   58  10   61   45 
Donald Veal*              23   5.72   6  12  29  28   140.0  141   89  23  110  115 
Kevin Hart                26   5.73   5  11  29  25   154.0  168   98  30   69  107 
Mark Holliman             24   5.89   6  13  25  24   142.0  160   93  28   73   83 
Ryan O'Malley*            28   6.15   4   9  29  19   120.0  146   82  26   40   58 
Tim Lahey                 26   6.19   3   8  51   0    80.0   92   55  14   43   47 
Jeff Samardzija           23   6.27   3   8  21  19    99.0  122   69  20   39   37 
Mike Nannini              28   6.90   1   5  35   5    73.0   86   56  21   36   53 
Mitchell Atkins           22   7.16   4  14  27  25   137.0  166  109  40   73   82 

* - Throws Left

Player Spotlight - Ted Lilly
                    ERA   W   L   G  GS  INN    H   ER  HR   BB    K   ERA+       
Optimistic (15%)   3.57  16  10  34  34  199  172   79  25   67  188   129 
Mean               4.24  12  12  31  31  176  165   83  25   67  158   109
Pessimistic (15%)  5.28   7  12  25  25  138  144   81  25   62  114    87 

Top Near-Age Comps:  Floyd Bannister, Howie Pollet

Player Spotlight - Carlos Zambrano
                    ERA   W   L   G  GS  INN    H   ER  HR   BB    K   ERA+       
Optimistic (15%)   3.04  18   8  34  34  228  179   77  20   97  217   152  
Mean               3.70  14  11  32  32  207  177   85  22  100  189   125
Pessimistic (15%)  4.53   9  11  26  26  163  153   82  21   92  137   102  

Top Near-Age Comps:  Andy Messersmith, Pete Harnisch

Disclaimer:  ZiPS projections are computer-based projections of performance.  
Performances have not been allocated to predicted playing time in the majors - 
many of the players listed above are unlikely to play in the majors at all in 2008.  
ZiPS is projecting equivalent production - a .240 ZiPS projection may end up 
being .280 in AAA or .300 in AA, for example.  Whether or not a player will play 
is one of many non-statistical factors one has to take into account when predicting 
the future.

Players are listed with their most recent teams unless Dan has made a mistake.  
This is very possible as a lot of minor-league signings are generally unreported in
the offseason.  

ZiPS is projecting based on the AL having a 4.49 ERA and the NL having a 4.40 ERA.
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Dan Szymborski Posted: January 09, 2008 at 02:07 PM | 106 comment(s)
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   101. Der Komminsk-sar Posted: January 10, 2008 at 11:57 PM (#2665941)
Is there an age where MLE-MLB projections start to break down.
I've never looked into it, but some people seem to think there is - DTs have age relative to level as a component of the translation.
   102. greenback06 Posted: January 11, 2008 at 12:45 AM (#2665970)
Constancio found an experience level where MLEs need to be changed. Link.
   103. Frisco Cali Posted: January 11, 2008 at 01:52 AM (#2666001)
At least one of us is being too subtle in his humor.

"Asshat" was your term, not mine.
If I called Dan a "moron", "############", or "shithead", then that would be uncalled for. And I wouldn't do that.
But when I simply continued your humorous (I thought, maybe you were being serious) scenario from 5 posts earlier, I don't think my intent is too hard to figure out. Probably not overly skilled, true. But also certainly not subtle.
   104. Pops Freshenmeyer Posted: January 11, 2008 at 10:50 AM (#2666123)
FC,

Walt was saying his joke was too subtle. The poster picked up that you were joking but thought Walt was serious in calling you out.

Or are you being subtle now too?
   105. Walt Davis Posted: January 11, 2008 at 01:50 PM (#2666300)
Indeed, Frisco, I appreciated your joke and saving me the trouble. :-)

I was then trying to humorously take the high road. That's what I get for not using a smiley.
   106. Sweet Posted: January 16, 2008 at 05:33 PM (#2669955)
Hi Dan,

I assume you'll do a TO on the Lieber signing, but if not, could you post his Wrigley Field projection here?

Thanks!
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