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   1. bigglou115 Posted: February 05, 2010 at 03:58 PM (#3454680)
I wonder how well Medlen's projection would translate to starting. I imagine that he's probably #6 in this rotation.
   2. Home Run Teal & Black Black Black Gone! Posted: February 05, 2010 at 04:01 PM (#3454684)
Missing Yunel's offensive projection.
   3. RJ in TO Posted: February 05, 2010 at 04:02 PM (#3454686)
That's a really nice career line for McCann.
   4. Forsch 10 From Navarone (Dayn) Posted: February 05, 2010 at 04:07 PM (#3454691)
Nice projection for Hanson.
   5. Rays&Sox; Posted: February 05, 2010 at 04:12 PM (#3454700)
Since Soriano moved to the Rays after their projections were posted, can we get his projection here?
   6. Der Komminsk-sar Posted: February 05, 2010 at 04:18 PM (#3454708)
Jurrjens' comps: Mad Dog, Izzy, and Stieb. Not shabby...
   7. bigglou115 Posted: February 05, 2010 at 04:34 PM (#3454724)
Nice projection for Hanson.


Yeah, 0% chance of being in the bottom group for a 23 YO entering his first full big league season? That's pretty sick.
   8. Maxwn Posted: February 05, 2010 at 04:39 PM (#3454729)
I believe Yunel Escobar got left out of the offensive and defensive projections at the top. He's in the ODDIBE part but not in the top two charts.
   9. Barnaby Jones Posted: February 05, 2010 at 04:42 PM (#3454732)
Saito and Wagner are missing from the ODDIBE sections.

Also, these projections are heartening.

Also, also, I cringe to see Garret Anderson still affiliated with the Braves.

Also, also, also, Edgar Osuna is on the Royals for the time being as a Rule 5 pick.
   10. Maxwn Posted: February 05, 2010 at 04:45 PM (#3454734)
Also, also, I cringe to see Garret Anderson still affiliated with the Braves.

This.
   11. maverickdmb Posted: February 05, 2010 at 04:58 PM (#3454746)
Does Javier Vazquez have a projection yet? Since he became a Yankee after their projections were done and is no longer a Brave I figure this is a good time to ask.
   12. BobbyS Posted: February 05, 2010 at 05:24 PM (#3454770)
Since Soriano moved to the Rays after their projections were posted, can we get his projection here?


Same with Gonzalez after signing with the O's? Or some sweet separet TOs!

Braves look pretty good. I like the projection on Heyward, he'll be getting his chance to play every day now, and I think that's a pretty fair line for him,
   13. Accent Shallow Posted: February 05, 2010 at 05:33 PM (#3454779)
Wow, ZiPS loves Hanson. I'll take the under on that ERA+.
   14. BobbyS Posted: February 05, 2010 at 05:45 PM (#3454789)
Or some sweet separet TOs!


Er, separate. That was an ugly typo.
   15. Banta Posted: February 05, 2010 at 05:46 PM (#3454790)
Hey Dan, do you have any idea when you'll have this years Zips spreadsheets available? Thanks in advance.
   16. threepointpi Posted: February 05, 2010 at 06:11 PM (#3454803)
I like nearly every projection on here. Only 2 I don't like=Derek Lowe and Kris Medlen, I thought ZiPS might like them a little more than it does.
   17. Danny Posted: February 05, 2010 at 06:32 PM (#3454823)
That's a healthy jump in K/9 for Jurrjens (6.3 career, 6.4 last year, 7.0 ZIPS). What's his projected BABIP?

He's been pulling a Zito the past couple years with a low BABIP and a low HR/FB rate.
   18. Mike Green Posted: February 05, 2010 at 06:54 PM (#3454845)
Yunel Escobar is missing.

Excellent analysis, Dan. If Glaus and four of the starters are healthy, this club should be right there in September.
   19. Argu!!!! SATAN!!!! (Sessile Fielder) Posted: February 05, 2010 at 07:02 PM (#3454850)
Hey, is Yunel Escobar's projection missing? Why is no one talking about this?
   20. Teheran's Uranium Enriched Missiles Posted: February 05, 2010 at 07:11 PM (#3454854)
Aint that a dandy set of comparables for Jurrjens?
IRRC, his #1 age comparison last year was Roger Clemens. I looked up their age 22 seasons on b-r. Were almost carbon copies. But Roger had a huge spike in the K rate starting the next year. Jurrjens obviously didn't, though ZiPS seems optimistic on that count.

This team has to have among the higher exposure to injuries. Their key hitters are old and injury prone( Glaus, Chipper ) or a catcher ( McCann ). And their best pitchers are starters under the age of 25. They could win the division or battle with the Gnats for last place.
   21. Dan Szymborski Posted: February 05, 2010 at 07:24 PM (#3454858)
Yunel's in there now.

Gonzalez BAL - 3-2, 4.11 (ERA+ 111), 50.1 IP, 46 H, 7 HR, 22 BB, 54 K.

Soriano TB - 3-1, 3.25 (ERA+ 137), 55.1 IP, 44 H, 6 HR, 20 BB, 61 K.

Sorry about rather piss-poor transaction coverage this year. As I explained in another entry, I got very little done for about 6 weeks while I was very ill.
   22. maverickdmb Posted: February 05, 2010 at 07:40 PM (#3454876)
What about Vazquez's projection?
   23. Mike Green Posted: February 05, 2010 at 07:41 PM (#3454877)
Lowe is one of Hudson's comps, but Hudson isn't one of Lowe's. Recount.:)
   24. Dan Szymborski Posted: February 05, 2010 at 07:54 PM (#3454885)
Vazquez NYA - 17-8, 3.53 (ERA+ 129), 209.1 IP, 192 H, 23 HR, 50 BB, 197 K.

ZiPS has always loved Vazquez.
   25. Al Kaline Trio Posted: February 05, 2010 at 08:04 PM (#3454892)
Brian McCann 30 career SB to 3 CS wow! He really gets the most out of his "speed".
   26. Rays&Sox; Posted: February 05, 2010 at 08:05 PM (#3454894)
Thanks Dan. I appreciate it.
   27. Boxkutter Posted: February 05, 2010 at 08:11 PM (#3454898)
Wow, ZiPS loves Hanson. I'll take the under on that ERA+.


Awesome, because I definitely want the over. I like Hanson, but I just think it's pretty unlikely for him to put up an ERA under 3.20 in his first full season in the majors now that teams have more time to scout and prepare for him. I mean, he's not Tim Lincecum for Christ's sake ;)
   28. BobbyS Posted: February 05, 2010 at 08:13 PM (#3454900)
Gonzalez BAL - 3-2, 4.11 (ERA+ 111), 50.1 IP, 46 H, 7 HR, 22 BB, 54 K.

Soriano TB - 3-1, 3.25 (ERA+ 137), 55.1 IP, 44 H, 6 HR, 20 BB, 61 K.


Thanks for the quick response, appreciate it!

I didn't know BAL makes pitchers digress that much :-/
   29. flournoy Posted: February 05, 2010 at 08:16 PM (#3454903)
Brian McCann 30 career SB to 3 CS wow! He really gets the most out of his "speed".


That one is a pretty tough sell to me. He's already 12 SB to 3 CS so far. I can buy 18 more stolen bases for him during his career, but not zero more caught stealings.
   30. Dan Szymborski Posted: February 05, 2010 at 08:26 PM (#3454906)
That should be 30-13. There's a 1 missing.
   31. Barnaby Jones Posted: February 05, 2010 at 08:43 PM (#3454921)
Awesome, because I definitely want the over. I like Hanson, but I just think it's pretty unlikely for him to put up an ERA under 3.20 in his first full season in the majors now that teams have more time to scout and prepare for him. I mean, he's not Tim Lincecum for Christ's sake ;)


I think you misinterpreted what was meant by "under."
   32. Home Run Teal & Black Black Black Gone! Posted: February 05, 2010 at 09:07 PM (#3454951)
Hey Dan, Yunel's projection is no longer missing. FYI.
   33. BobbyS Posted: February 05, 2010 at 09:07 PM (#3454954)
Would it be possible to get a quick glance at the ZiPS for Kelvim Escobar as well? With all that missed time, and change of leagues, he's an interesting one.
   34. Ziggy Posted: February 05, 2010 at 09:07 PM (#3454956)
Is Saito going to be the closer?
   35. Teheran's Uranium Enriched Missiles Posted: February 05, 2010 at 09:37 PM (#3454988)
Thats a nice projection for Yunel, and that Luke Appling comp is good, if the Braves ever make the World Series! :)

So Saito and Wagner project to be way better than Soriano / Gonzalez for half the cost. One of those offseason moves I wasn't a fan of , but ZiPS likes it.

And also this. Funniest projection line after Chad Fox.

Cody Johnson* lf 21 .187 .260 .339 138 504 38 94 18 1 19 61 49 245 4 4 59

245 Ks! :)
   36. jfish26101 Posted: February 05, 2010 at 11:09 PM (#3455070)
Wow, must say I'm pretty surprised by several of these. Hanson had an amazing season and was a top prospect but a projected ERA+ 6 points below Greinke? That seems awfully optimistic or perhaps just shows again how much Greinke is underrated by the model.

Saito/Wagner and Gonzalez/Soriano surprises me as well, especially Wagner and Gonzalez. Of course Wagner's projected IP are very low but it's still surprising.

Glaus is a pleasant surprise, I'd take that at 1B definitely. I thought Hinske would be better but looking at him I guess I didn't really have a good reason for thinking that. Haha

Prado's defense surprises me a little at 2B, I thought he would have a Fr range rating and an error rating just below 100. I just don't think he is an average fielder at 2B.

Lowe and Kawakami got better projections than I thought they would, rotation really looks good with some combination of Hudson, Jurrjens, Hanson, Lowe, and Kawakami.

How many wins do you project this team to have? Phillies are probably still better but I think if those 2 teams (as projected) went up against each other head to head it would be pretty even.
   37. Best Dressed Chicken in Town Posted: February 05, 2010 at 11:25 PM (#3455078)
I saw Hanson pitch about 5 innings last year so I can very confidently say he ain't all that.
   38. flournoy Posted: February 05, 2010 at 11:42 PM (#3455091)
Hanson is probably the best pitcher since Lefty Grove, so the projection here is probably a little low.

So the numbers after the slash following the defensive ratings are "error ratings?" How does that work?
   39. jfish26101 Posted: February 05, 2010 at 11:44 PM (#3455092)
Hanson is probably the best pitcher since Lefty Grove, so the projection here is probably a little low.


Hanson is the best pitcher since 1940? I hope that was sarcasm that I just failed to pick up on because that is a ridiculous statement to make at this stage of his career.
   40. Dan Szymborski Posted: February 06, 2010 at 12:08 AM (#3455100)
Wow, must say I'm pretty surprised by several of these. Hanson had an amazing season and was a top prospect but a projected ERA+ 6 points below Greinke? That seems awfully optimistic or perhaps just shows again how much Greinke is underrated by the model.

Don't forget, Greinke's also in the harder league and a team with a pretty lousy defense.
   41. DCA Posted: February 06, 2010 at 12:26 AM (#3455105)
Gregor Blanco's comps are pretty good.
   42. Tuque Posted: February 06, 2010 at 12:26 AM (#3455106)
Hanson is the best pitcher since 1940? I hope that was sarcasm that I just failed to pick up on because that is a ridiculous statement to make at this stage of his career.

I actually think that underrates his talents. I personally think he will near-probably be the greatest pitcher of all time. How often do people his age post seasons like last year's?
   43. CC is on irrevocable waivers Posted: February 06, 2010 at 12:27 AM (#3455107)
So the numbers after the slash following the defensive ratings are "error ratings?" How does that work?


DMB breaks fielding into two ratings: "playmaking" (rated Pr, Fr, Av, Vg, Ex) and "error rate."

The latter is just the player's normalized rate of making errors; 100 is average, 150 is 50% more errors than average, etc.

So a typical Av/97 fielder is just barely above average overall, although that Av rating is something like a 12 run range, so Dan could be pegging Prado anywhere from +7 to -6 or so.

On that note: Dan, I love me some DMB, but for projection purposes I'd rather see something more UZR-ish with a run value rather than just a range rating - that way we know if two guys who are rated Av/100 and Fr/100 are 2 runs apart or 20...
   44. jfish26101 Posted: February 06, 2010 at 12:28 AM (#3455108)
I actually think that underrates his talents. I personally think he will near-probably be the greatest pitcher of all time. How often do people his age post seasons like last year's?

That has to be sarcasm. :D

Don't forget, Greinke's also in the harder league and a team with a pretty lousy defense.

How much difference do you think a good defense would make in Greinke's case? Like I've said before, I never expected a 200 ERA+ like he posted last year but 142 and seeing some of the others really surprises me. I know Greinke is in the more difficult league but that makes what he did last year that much more impressive.
   45. Teheran's Uranium Enriched Missiles Posted: February 06, 2010 at 12:37 AM (#3455114)
I am curious about the defensive ratings, as to where you build them from. For example, plus minus had Yunel as a super freaky defender in 2008, and pretty good in 2009 ( Anecdotally, he was carrying some injuries in the first half, and some attitude issues, before a couple of Andruw style benchings led to a very steady defensive second half ). Even with the injuries, he posted a good plus/minus if I remember correctly.

As I said, just curious about the methodology, as defensive ratings are notoriously volatile.
   46. Tuque Posted: February 06, 2010 at 12:44 AM (#3455118)
That has to be sarcasm. :D

How do YOU know?

But probably, yes.
   47. Accent Shallow Posted: February 06, 2010 at 12:44 AM (#3455119)
Awesome, because I definitely want the over. I like Hanson, but I just think it's pretty unlikely for him to put up an ERA under 3.20 in his first full season in the majors now that teams have more time to scout and prepare for him. I mean, he's not Tim Lincecum for Christ's sake ;)


Yeah, as Mr. Jones noted lower in the thread, I meant "a lower ERA+, and thus a higher ERA". Too bad, because I am very pro-BR sponsorship.
   48. flournoy Posted: February 06, 2010 at 12:50 AM (#3455123)
Okay, fine, so not the best pitcher since Grove. Since Spahn, then, maybe?
   49. tl; dr (Voxter) Posted: February 06, 2010 at 01:02 AM (#3455130)
Hanson is the best pitcher since 1940? I hope that was sarcasm that I just failed to pick up on because that is a ridiculous statement to make at this stage of his career.


Actually, it's irony, not sarcasm.

/pedantic jerk again
   50. CFBF Hates Hyphens Posted: February 06, 2010 at 01:09 AM (#3455131)
Gregor Blanco is such a fun, weird player. I'd like to see some team give him 150 games and 500+ at-bats, just to see what would happen. I just don't want that team to be the Braves.
   51. PreservedFish Posted: February 06, 2010 at 01:11 AM (#3455134)
Actually, it's irony, not sarcasm.

/pedantic jerk again



Can you explain the difference? It has always confused me.
   52. flournoy Posted: February 06, 2010 at 01:12 AM (#3455135)
What's especially fun about Blanco? Dan projects him to have 24 extra base hits in 2010, which is about 22 more than I'd expect. I don't think he'll ever match his 2008 walk rate, either.

Though if he did, I guess that could be the fun part. .250/.350/.300 is a pretty weird line.
   53. tl; dr (Voxter) Posted: February 06, 2010 at 01:13 AM (#3455136)
I think it's like rectangles and squares. All squares are rectangles, but not all squares are rectangles.

My understanding is that sarcasm always has a derisive intent, but irony does not.
   54. Dan Szymborski Posted: February 06, 2010 at 01:25 AM (#3455138)
In the NL, Greinke projection in the 145-155 range.
   55. jfish26101 Posted: February 06, 2010 at 01:34 AM (#3455142)
So how many wins are the Braves projected to have? Seems like a very solid team across the board (offense, defense, SP and RP). Seems like it would be the third highest in the NL behind the Dodgers/Phillies.
   56. CFBF Hates Hyphens Posted: February 06, 2010 at 05:12 PM (#3455322)
What's especially fun about Blanco? Dan projects him to have 24 extra base hits in 2010, which is about 22 more than I'd expect. I don't think he'll ever match his 2008 walk rate, either.


He hit .251/.366/.309 with 74 walks and 99 strikeouts in 430 at-bats. Basically, Gregor Blanco is what happens when a hitter decides he won't swing until the count is 3-2. He's a slap hitting hitting speedster who strikes out like a power hitter. That sort of stubbornness is a validation of the human spirit.
   57. Dock Ellis on Acid Posted: February 06, 2010 at 05:20 PM (#3455326)
Can you explain the difference? It has always confused me.

Being sarcastic is saying "Oh, it's such a lovely day outside," when it's cold and rainy and miserable. Irony is having 10,000 spoons when all you need is a knife.
   58. Morally Excellent Posted: February 06, 2010 at 06:03 PM (#3455343)

I think it's like rectangles and squares. All squares are rectangles, but not all squares are rectangles.


You botched that, but yeah, sarcasm is a form of verbal irony.
   59. Sam Hutcheson is the 'saur with the rainbow roar Posted: February 06, 2010 at 10:47 PM (#3455465)
I'll take the over on: Glaus, Escobar & Tim Hudson

I'll take the under on: Hanson, Martin Prado

I don't know if Jason Heyward will be over or under, but my gut instinct for him is that he'll either under-perform or destroy that line. If he doesn't falter badly with the ML transition - i.e. he plays in Atlanta and doesn't post 85ish OPS+ - he'll post a 120 or higher.
   60. tl; dr (Voxter) Posted: February 06, 2010 at 10:52 PM (#3455467)
You botched that, but yeah, sarcasm is a form of verbal irony.


I certainly did, didn't I?
   61. Colin Posted: February 08, 2010 at 03:48 AM (#3455852)
Odd that Hanson is projected to pitch so well, but only average 5.5 IP/start.
   62. Morally Excellent Posted: February 08, 2010 at 03:51 AM (#3455854)
Heh
   63. kwarren Posted: February 10, 2010 at 12:12 AM (#3457387)
Hanson is the best pitcher since 1940? I hope that was sarcasm that I just failed to pick up on because that is a ridiculous statement to make at this stage of his career.



Actually, it's irony, not sarcasm.

/pedantic jerk again


It's hyperbole, not sarcasm or irony

(another pedantic jerk)
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