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I don't know why I'm so drawn to the little oddities about the career projections, but I am. Sizemore only getting an extra ~100 career AB over Cabrera and playing fewer games just doesn't seem right. I guess he can be a utility guy, Alex Cora type for a long time but that one seems strange.
Masterson, Reliever: 4-3, 3.78
So, he still stays the best starter as full-time starter.
For those wondering, ZiPS is "trained" to look out for pitchers that have obvious role changes (so if a guy that's been 100% starting has most recent year of 100% relieving, for example, ZiPS assumes he's a full-time reliever now). In essence, from quality of pitcher, start/relief use of pitcher, and changes in both, I made a model of predicting future start/relief roles for initial pitcher projections.
My judgment doesn't come in until I'm making a roster and depth chart the last build. Masterson will, barring some unusual situation, have a full-time starter projection come March.
Also, Jason Grilli will be added.
1. I thought Cabrera was supposed to be a defensive whiz. Sure seemed like he was a couple years ago. Still, very nice comps for him -- and easy to see how a player like that would hold onto a starting job for a long time (i.e. in response to #1).
2. So I should hold off on the Grady for the HoF campaign.
3. An ugly set of comps for Matt LaPorta.
4. I had to look up Brad Gulden -- that must have been one odd career. Lots of injuries? Horrendous defense? (look at his minors numbers or that comment won't make sense)
5. I am surprised that Santana is projected to walk that much. I thought minor-league walk rates weren't supposed to translate very well (from Mike Emeigh maybe? you?). I'll take the under on the walks, at least for his rookie year.
6. Guitar fans hope that Santana and Grant Green (A's) have long careers.
7. The rotation does stink but at least it looks like you get 8 or 9 deep before hitting true disasters. I guess that's assuming health for Carmona and Westbrook though.
8. A serious question which I should have thought of long ago. What use are we supposed to make of a player's comps? As I understand it, they are "recent performance" comps (i.e. the last 3-4 seasons at the same age) not career comps. Do they tell us:
a) this is the kind of player you can expect this guy to be in 2010;
b) this is the kind of player you can expect this guy to be over the next 3-4 years;
c) this is the kind of career you can expect this guy to have from here on out?
Probably some mix of the 3 but is there a rough %age you could give us on each? (and obviously each of those comes with huge caveats about uncertainty.)
8. A serious question which I should have thought of long ago. What use are we supposed to make of a player's comps? As I understand it, they are "recent performance" comps (i.e. the last 3-4 seasons at the same age) not career comps. Do they tell us:
a) this is the kind of player you can expect this guy to be in 2010;
b) this is the kind of player you can expect this guy to be over the next 3-4 years;
c) this is the kind of career you can expect this guy to have from here on out?
Giving straight percentages on these is an answer I don't even know how to tackle.
When it comes down to it, I'm doing the same thing as one would do when calculating generic playing aging in baseball history. I'm just doing it on the fly with similar players being a bigger part of the model.
Individual comps are most important the nearer the time frame - as the years you project become farther in the future, the aging becomes more generic. Even then, specific individuals aren't really all that important in the model as a whole, even the top few guys.
Man, this pitching staff is ROUGH.
Wieters
2008: 291/359/404
2009: 281/339/422
Santana
2008: 260/353/454
2009: 243/343/416
They'd both get better projections if they played other positions - young catchers are very risky.
Well, it's not quite zero, just rounded. ZiPS actually says 1-in-229.
Remember, though, those are the odds of him stealing 30 bases at the projected playing time. Not counting reached on error in either case, ZiPS has Sizemore standing on first base 168 times in his projection while that number is 229 for 2007 and 202 in 2008.
With 750 PA, the odds of 30 stolen bases increases to 24%
seems that Adam Miller's projection got lost (although he is ODDIBE).
Also the Indians picked up ex Padre Luis A. Rodriguez to "play" the Carroll role - any chance of getting his projection added in ? ditto for Saul Rivera.Thanks
Two Hall of Very Good shortstops with eight all-star appearances and an MVP between them. And also Robin Yount.
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