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Sunday, January 31, 2010

2010 ZiPS Projections - Milwaukee Brewers

While the offense finished 3rd in the league in runs, the starting rotation doomed the 2009 rotation. Gallardo came back and pitched very well in his first full major league season, Parra took a step backwards with his command and the Suppan/Looper/Bush troika, expected to be uninspiring but adequate, all cratered to one degree or another. Looper's gone, replaced with the superior Randy Wolf. Bush should be better after underperforming his peripherals in 2009 but the team still has another year of Jeff Suppan at $12.5 million to go. The team will miss Mike Cameron, but Carlos Gomez, whil an awful offensive player, is even better defensively than Cameron and Escobar should be one of the best defensive shortstop in the league and contribute more offensively than some people believe. Off-hand, I'd expect the Brewers to finish 3rd-7th in runs scored and 10th-14th in runs allowed, which makes them a middle-of-the-pack team. Since they don't play in either of the East divisions, the team's a realistic contender for the division, assuming that the Cubs Cub things up.
Offensive Projections 

Name                     P  Age   AVG   OBP   SLG   G  AB   R   H 2B 3B HR RBI  BB   K SB CS  OPS+ 
Prince Fielder*          1b  26  .277  .383  .552 160 582 101 161 33  2 41 142  94 139  2  1   145 
Ryan Braun               lf  26  .295  .359  .554 154 610 109 180 38  6 36 132  54 131  9  3   138 
Rickie Weeks             2b  27  .240  .345  .419  90 334  66  80 16  4 12  43  44  89  9  2   103 
Corey Hart               rf  28  .263  .323  .453 137 501  76 132 31  5 18  86  39 105  8  4   104 
Jody Gerut*              cf  32  .267  .321  .443 115 307  45  82 17  2 11  48  25  50  3  2   101 
Jim Edmonds*             cf  40  .225  .327  .422  71 218  31  49 11  1 10  37  33  56  1  1    98 
Gregg Zaun#              c   39  .243  .345  .373  94 276  29  67 15  0  7  26  42  45  1  1    92 
Felipe Lopez#            2b  30  .266  .340  .377 143 546  69 145 28  3  9  55  60  99 10  6    91 
Adam Heether             3b  28  .243  .331  .376 127 444  58 108 25  2 10  61  52 103  3  2    88 
Jonathan Lucroy          c   24  .245  .326  .378 136 490  59 120 28  2 11  72  58  96  2  1    87 
Casey McGehee            3b  27  .263  .316  .397 126 433  55 114 23  1 11  78  35  85  0  2    89 
George Kottaras*         c   27  .237  .320  .385  86 278  31  66 15  1  8  29  34  75  0  0    87 
Joe Inglett*             2b  32  .273  .333  .375  98 341  39  93 16  5  3  38  28  51  6  4    89 
Alcides Escobar          ss  23  .279  .321  .378 146 588  91 164 27  5  7  63  34  95 25  7    84 
Craig Counsell*          2b  39  .252  .337  .353 109 309  43  78 16  3  3  33  36  47  2  2    85 
Angel Salome             c   24  .262  .309  .387  92 336  40  88 19  1  7  57  23  62  1  0    84 
Mat Gamel*               3b  24  .239  .312  .382 140 497  66 119 26  3 13  73  52 147  3  2    84 
Joe Koshansky*           1b  28  .219  .304  .394 144 503  65 110 24  2 20  94  61 183  2  2    84 
Carlos Gomez             cf  24  .250  .308  .369 136 396  63  99 19  5  6  41  28  91 23  8    79 
Caleb Gindl*             rf  21  .229  .303  .362 130 481  58 110 22  3 12  68  51 148  8  3    76 
Trent Oeltjen*           lf  27  .243  .294  .380 130 453  58 110 22  8  8  52  25  90 10  5    78 
Eric Farris              2b  24  .259  .298  .346 127 526  70 136 24  2  6  56  28  69 33  7    71 
Logan Schafer*           cf  23  .247  .302  .358  99 405  57 100 22  4  5  48  29  73  6  6    75 
Hernan Iribarren*        2b  26  .255  .306  .338 124 447  51 114 20  4  3  48  32  86 10  8    72 
Luis Cruz                2b  26  .253  .285  .361 119 415  52 105 25  1  6  45  17  49  4  4    71 
Andy Machado#            ss  29  .221  .310  .316  91 263  32  58 12  2  3  26  34  69  6  2    65 
Matt Treanor             c   34  .233  .306  .325  39 120  11  28  5  0  2  14  11  25  0  0    69 
Brendan Katin            rf  27  .211  .268  .383 128 454  55  96 24  3 16  83  29 164  1  1    71 
Brett Lawrie             2b  20  .228  .290  .354 130 474  50 108 20  5 10  63  39 118 10 11    71 
Lorenzo Cain             cf  24  .226  .285  .325 101 385  44  87 19  2  5  39  28 101  7  4    62 

Defensive Projections

Name               CThr 1b      2b      3b      ss      lf      cf      rf      
Fielder*                Av/118                                                  
Braun                                   Pr/152          Fr/57                   
Weeks                           Av/133                                          
Hart                                                                    Av/92   
Gerut*                                                  Av/103  Fr/103  Av/103  
Edmonds*                                                        Av/115          
Zaun#              Fr                                                           
Lopez#                          Av/122  Fr/122  Pr/125  Av/150          Av/150  
Heether                         Fr/104  Av/104  Fr/148  Av/104                  
Lucroy             Vg                                                           
McGehee            Pr   Av/105  Fr/146  Av/105                                  
Kottaras*          Fr                                                           
Inglett*                        Av/121  Fr/100  Pr/100  Av/100  Fr/100  Av/100  
Counsell*                       Vg/55   Vg/70   Av/75                           
Salome             Fr                                                           
Gamel*                                  Fr/146                                  
Koshansky*              Av/121                                                  
Escobar                                         Vg/109                          
Gomez                                                   Vg/118  Ex/118  Vg/118  
Gindl*                                                  Fr/123  Fr/123  Fr/123  
Oeltjen*                                                Vg/105  Pr/126  Vg/105  
Farris                          Av/132                                          
Schafer*                                                Vg/84   Av/84   Vg/84   
Iribarren*                      Av/103  Fr/103          Av/116  Fr/116          
Cruz                            Av/118  Av/118  Av/118                          
Machado#                        Av/114  Av/114  Fr/114  Av/114                  
Treanor            Fr                                                           
Katin                                                   Fr/185          Fr/185  
Lawrie                          Av/152                                          
Cain                                                    Vg/123  Av/79   Vg/123  

* - Bats Left
# - Switch Hitter

ODDIBE (Odds of Important Baseball Events)

Name               PO    EX    VG    AV    FR    PO          COMP 1          COMP 2          COMP 3
FielderPrince      1B   61%   29%    6%    3%    1%       HrbekKent    AikensWillie      PowellBoog
BraunRyan          LF   61%   26%    7%    4%    2%     MondesiRaul    WhiteRondell    HollidayMatt
HartCorey          RF    7%   18%   21%   27%   28% EncarnacionJuan      ByrnesEric    BrandtJackie
WeeksRickie        2B   34%   23%   20%   16%    8%       TylerBrad      HeathKelly    BellhornMark
GerutJody          CF   16%   18%   30%   24%   12%         MayDave    LandreauxKen        UnserDel
EdmondsJim         CF    0%   12%   15%   20%   53%               
LopezFelipe        2B    9%   11%   17%   28%   35%     RunnelsPete      AdamsBobby       OesterRon
McGeheeCasey       3B    1%    6%   13%   27%   52%    DavenportJim     BrooksHubie     KingBrennan
EscobarAlcides     SS    6%   14%   31%   31%   18%     FrancoJulio    FonvilleChad      JeterDerek
HeetherAdam        3B    2%    7%   16%   29%   47%     EdwardsMike     NaehringTim   GonzalezEdgar
SalomeAngel         C    3%   14%   25%   37%   21% TorrealbaYorvit     GilGeronimo     BentonButch
LucroyJonathan      C    3%   14%   25%   37%   21%     TurnerChris   ThigpenCurtis       AvlasPhil
CounsellCraig      2B    4%    6%   13%   28%   49%     VizquelOmarMaranvilleRabbit    McLemoreMark
GamelMat           3B    1%    4%   10%   24%   62%      TeahenMark   BetemitWilson       HulettTim
FarrisEric         2B    2%    4%    9%   24%   60%     LoviglioJayBloomquistWillie     DortaMelvin
KoshanskyJoe       1B    0%    1%    3%   17%   78%       TracyAndyWhittemoreReggie de la RosaTomas
OeltjenTrent       LF    0%    0%    1%    6%   92%      VarshoGary     ChapmanNate   MartinezManny
GindlCaleb         RF    0%    1%    2%    6%   91%      ReidJessie        DarrMike       NanniTito
SchaferLogan       LF    0%    0%    2%   12%   86%    WynneMarvell  WebsterAnthony      McRaeBrian
IribarrenHernan    2B    0%    1%    1%    5%   92% MorandiniMickey     MartinezTed  GuerreroWilton
KatinBrendan       RF    0%    0%    1%    4%   95%        DunnTodd    IngramDarron   SherrodJustin
LawrieBrett        2B    0%    0%    1%    5%   94%    CastilloJose  BenefieldBrian       DeanChris
CainLorenzo        CF    0%    0%    1%    4%   95%       BlasiNick     BufordDamon     ShanksJames

Name              .300 BA .375 OBP .500 SLG 140 OPS+ 45 2B   10 3B   30 HR   30 SB
FielderPrince         20%     59%     81%     56%     10%      0%     91%      0%
BraunRyan             43%     28%     79%     42%     21%     15%     71%      0%
HartCorey              9%      3%     15%      3%      4%      7%      5%      0%
WeeksRickie            2%     14%      7%      2%      0%      3%      0%      0%
GerutJody             15%      6%     14%      3%      0%      0%      0%      0%
EdmondsJim             2%      7%      9%      0%      0%      0%      0%      0%
LopezFelipe           10%     10%      1%      0%      2%      1%      0%      0%
McGeheeCasey           9%      2%      2%      0%      0%      0%      0%      0%
EscobarAlcides        11%      1%      0%      0%      1%      7%      0%     27%
HeetherAdam            2%      6%      1%      0%      0%      0%      0%      0%
SalomeAngel           11%      1%      1%      0%      0%      0%      0%      0%
LucroyJonathan         2%      2%      0%      0%      1%      0%      0%      0%
CounsellCraig          9%     16%      0%      0%      0%      3%      0%      0%
GamelMat               1%      1%      0%      0%      0%      1%      0%      0%
FarrisEric             5%      0%      0%      0%      0%      0%      0%     72%
KoshanskyJoe           0%      1%      1%      0%      0%      0%      5%      0%
OeltjenTrent           1%      0%      0%      0%      0%     28%      0%      0%
GindlCaleb             1%      1%      0%      0%      0%      0%      0%      0%
SchaferLogan           2%      0%      0%      0%      0%      1%      0%      0%
IribarrenHernan        5%      1%      0%      0%      0%      3%      0%      0%
KatinBrendan           0%      0%      0%      0%      0%      1%      1%      0%
LawrieBrett            0%      0%      0%      0%      0%      4%      0%      0%
CainLorenzo            1%      0%      0%      0%      0%      0%      0%      0%

Pitching Statistics - Starters

Name                     Age    ERA   W   L   G  GS     INN    H   ER  HR   BB    K ERA+ 
Yovani Gallardo           24   3.51  13   7  26  25   153.2  133   60  15   69  163  127 
Randy Wolf*               33   4.05  10   8  29  29   173.1  167   78  21   57  136  110 
Doug Davis*               34   4.43  10  10  30  30   176.2  182   87  19   85  133  101 
David Bush                30   4.64   8   9  28  27   153.1  161   79  22   46  107   96 
Chris Narveson*           28   4.74   6   6  33  14   104.1  107   55  14   46   83   94 
Christopher Cody*         26   4.75   9   9  24  23   127.0  137   67  17   44   78   94 
Mike Burns                31   4.86   8   9  33  18   127.2  143   69  18   36   79   92 
Braden Looper             35   5.02  10  12  32  32   181.0  205  101  29   56   99   89 
Mark Rogers               24   5.11   2   2  21  16    68.2   69   39   8   47   55   87 
Nick Green                25   5.13   7   9  26  24   142.0  162   81  22   41   79   87 
Lindsay Gulin*            33   5.15   7   9  25  22   120.2  125   69  16   71   77   87 
Manny Parra*              27   5.17   8  10  27  24   139.1  157   80  16   69  117   87 
Tim Dillard               26   5.26   6   8  36  16   125.0  148   73  14   54   55   85 
Jeff Suppan               35   5.33   8  12  30  30   170.2  206  101  24   68   86   84 
Alexandre Periard         23   5.38   5   7  18  18    82.0   95   49  10   37   41   83 
Sam Narron*               28   5.39   6   8  24  19   120.1  147   72  15   39   52   83 
John Halama*              38   5.53   5   7  15  13    86.1  102   53  12   35   42   81 
Chase Wright*             27   5.58   6  10  25  24   129.0  148   80  18   64   58   80 
Cody Scarpetta            21   5.63   6  10  28  20   100.2  103   63  12   85   79   79 
Josh Butler               25   5.64   5   8  23  22   103.2  118   65  13   59   60   79 
Jeremy Jeffress           22   5.68   4   6  17  16    69.2   68   44   8   64   63   79 
Chuck Lofgren*            24   5.80   6  10  27  22   111.2  126   72  17   62   74   77 
Amaury Rivas              24   5.81   7  12  27  23   117.2  132   76  20   66   77   77 
Chris Waters*             29   6.15   5  12  32  25   134.2  155   92  22   68   93   74 

Pitching Statistics - Relievers

Name                     Age    ERA   W   L   G  GS     INN    H   ER  HR   BB    K ERA+ 
Trevor Hoffman            42   3.14   4   2  53   0    48.2   42   17   4   13   44  142 
Mark DiFelice             33   3.46   3   2  54   0    54.2   50   21   6   14   48  129 
La Troy Hawkins           37   3.59   3   2  60   0    57.2   55   23   5   19   41  125 
Mitch Stetter*            29   3.64   4   2  60   0    42.0   35   17   4   22   42  123 
Zach Braddock*            22   4.24   3   2  32   0    34.0   28   16   4   22   40  106 
Todd Coffey               29   4.25   4   3  75   0    78.1   81   37   9   25   63  105 
David Weathers            40   4.26   5   4  66   0    63.1   62   30   7   27   42  105 
David Riske               33   4.28   1   1  39   0    40.0   40   19   4   17   30  105 
Carlos Villanueva         26   4.35   7   6  62   7   109.2  109   53  15   40   96  103 
A.J. Murray*              28   4.38   4   3  37   4    63.2   64   31   5   30   43  102 
Jesus Colome              32   4.39   3   2  49   0    55.1   56   27   6   23   46  102 
Claudio Vargas            32   4.46   4   4  32  10    78.2   80   39  10   27   59  100 
Seth McClung              29   4.54   4   4  46   5    83.1   80   42  10   47   67   99 
Ryan Houston              30   4.94   3   4  43   0    51.0   53   28   6   27   38   90 
Wes Littleton             27   4.98   3   3  49   0    65.0   66   36   7   38   47   90 
John Axford               27   5.18   3   4  47   0    57.1   54   33   6   50   53   86 

* - Throws Left

ODDIBE (Odds of Important Baseball Events)

Player             PO       TOP   MID   BOT            COMP 1            COMP 2            COMP 3
HoffmanTrevor      RP       74%   23%    4%           ReedRon       WilhelmHoyt         JonesDoug
DiFeliceMark       RP       55%   39%    7%       ReardonJeff       PeraltaJoel        MadduxMike
GallardoYovani     SP       85%   14%    1%        HardenRich        MaloneyJim         HudsonTim
HawkinsLaTroy      RP       44%   48%    8%        LampDennis          WilksTed          PowerTed
StetterMitch       RP       46%   40%   14%        RomeroJ.C.        VilloneRon        LittleJeff
WolfRandy          SP       51%   45%    4%       NeagleDenny       TananaFrank        MoyerJamie
CoffeyTodd         RP       19%   59%   22%      MeachamRusty          CrewsTim     AndersenLarry
WeathersDave       RP       34%   41%   25%       BrocailDoug          MesaJose       WilhelmHoyt
RiskeDavid         RP       20%   44%   36%      LancasterLes        MurrayDale     CrawfordSteve
VillanuevaCarlos   RP       11%   63%   26%        WheelerDan       HoytLa Marr        NelsonGene
MurrayArlington    RP       20%   51%   29%        AgostoJuan          ThobeTom        DunbarMatt
ColomeJesus        RP       14%   49%   38%        YanEsteban       MyersRodney         BruskeJim
VargasClaudio      SP       14%   54%   32%        NicholsRod        BrockChris       ManuelBarry
McClungSeth        RP        9%   51%   40%    GermanFranklyn          CookMike     PisciottaMarc
BushDavid          SP       17%   61%   23%          LimaJose       BoydOil Can        TomkoBrett
NarvesonChris      SP        3%   44%   53%       RoqueRafael    O'DonoghueJohn         EyreScott
CodyChristopher    SP       16%   58%   26%         UrbaniTom      MathesAlfred       PriestEddie
BurnsMike          SP       17%   50%   33%      SweeneyBrian        GinterMatt    DriskillTravis
HoustonRyan        RP        7%   33%   60%       CameronRyan        GwynMarcus       SolanoJulio
LittletonWes       RP        4%   41%   54%    GilfillanJason         GreenSean         MayoBlake
LooperBraden       SP        8%   46%   46%    GullicksonBill       LazorkoJack         KesterTim
RogersMark         SP       12%   37%   51%         NewellTom    DuncanCourtney         BowenRyan
GreenNick          SP        5%   47%   49%      MeadowsBrian        TowersJosh        WolcottBob
GulinLindsay       SP        6%   40%   53%        EstesShawn        ByrneTommy        McClureBob
ParraManny         SP        5%   45%   49%       RuffinBruce   ClaussenBrandon        HaywardRay
AxfordJohn         RP        3%   34%   62%        KayeJustin     BerumenAndres        BarryKevin
DillardTim         SP        0%   19%   81%    BonillaVicente       PegueroTony    CoulterDarrell
SuppanJeff         SP        3%   33%   64%         SeleAaron    FernandezJared       JarvisKevin
PeriardAlexandre   SP        6%   36%   58%      MoehlerBrian        JosephJake       DittlerJake
NarronSam          SP        4%   37%   60%       BallardJeff       ShouseBrian     GuettermanLee
HalamaJohn         SP        5%   25%   70%     MichalakChris      FlanaganMike        ReussJerry
WrightChase        SP        1%   22%   77%          DreesTom       RundlesRich       BryantShawn
ScarpettaCody      SP        1%   21%   77%      PerkinsVince    DuncanCourtney    HardwickWillie
ButlerJosh         SP        1%   23%   76%     KirkreitDaron    BuglovskyChris     SodowskyClint
JeffressJeremy     SP        3%   26%   71%        GomesWayne    DuncanCourtney        EricksJohn
LofgrenChuck       SP        1%   18%   82%        MounceTony         RootDerek        ThomasBrad
RivasAmaury        SP        0%   14%   86%    BourgeoisSteve    BuglovskyChris         ArdJohnny

Player             130 ERA+  100 ERA+    K/9 >8  BB/9 <2   HR/9 <1
HoffmanTrevor           66%       95%       54%      34%       72%
DiFeliceMark            46%       91%       45%      38%       63%
GallardoYovani          51%       95%       93%       0%       71%
HawkinsLaTroy           44%       85%        7%      13%       70%
StetterMitch            46%       81%       74%       0%       78%
WolfRandy               15%       78%       12%       3%       41%
CoffeyTodd              15%       68%       15%       5%       54%
WeathersDave            29%       66%        5%       4%       65%
RiskeDavid              20%       55%       14%       2%       54%
VillanuevaCarlos         9%       61%       41%       1%       25%
MurrayArlington         16%       58%        4%       0%       82%
ColomeJesus             14%       55%       27%       1%       57%
VargasClaudio           11%       57%        8%       3%       42%
McClungSeth              7%       48%       17%       0%       48%
BushDavid                2%       40%        1%       7%       22%
NarvesonChris            2%       37%       15%       0%       35%
CodyChristopher          2%       39%        0%       2%       35%
BurnsMike                6%       35%        2%      18%       30%
HoustonRyan              4%       33%       11%       0%       54%
LittletonWes             4%       32%        4%       0%       57%
LooperBraden             2%       22%        0%       5%       14%
RogersMark               2%       25%       22%       0%       62%
GreenNick                0%       18%        0%      12%       15%
GulinLindsay             1%       18%        3%       0%       35%
ParraManny               0%       17%       27%       0%       54%
AxfordJohn               3%       24%       59%       0%       62%
DillardTim               0%       11%        0%       0%       56%
SuppanJeff               0%       10%        0%       0%       26%
PeriardAlexandre         1%       18%        0%       0%       53%
NarronSam                0%       13%        0%       6%       38%
HalamaJohn               1%       11%        0%       2%       39%
WrightChase              0%        5%        0%       0%       23%
ScarpettaCody            0%        6%       14%       0%       45%
ButlerJosh               0%        5%        0%       0%       45%
JeffressJeremy           0%        9%       52%       0%       54%
LofgrenChuck             0%        3%        0%       0%       16%
RivasAmaury              0%        2%        1%       0%        9%

Extrapolated Career Statistics

Name               BA  OBP  SLG    G    AB      R      H   2B  3B   HR  RBI    BB     SO  SB  CS OPS+
FielderPrince    .263 .370 .514 2443  8805   1427   2320  452  29  565 1991  1381   2219  32  24  131
WeeksRickie      .236 .340 .400 1044  3869    732    912  166  41  129  451   491   1063 113  33   95
BraunRyan        .281 .345 .517 2003  7947   1345   2233  429  71  436 1602   682   1808 110  45  125
GomezCarlos      .244 .302 .358 1139  3343    452    817  150  42   49  343   233    793 160  58   76
HartCorey        .262 .318 .450 1166  4188    612   1097  257  41  150  657   306    885 100  45  100

Player              W     L     S   ERA      G     GS   IP      H     HR     BB     SO   ERA+
BushDavid          98   111     0  4.71    337    320 1876   1947    268    521   1300     95
SuppanJeff        157   165     0  4.75    488    472 2846   3196    378    999   1561     97
WolfRandy         165   141     0  4.20    473    468 2815   2731    356   1008   2287    104

All figures in % based on projection playing time 


Disclaimer:  ZiPS projections are computer-based projections of performance.  
Performances have not been allocated to predicted playing time in the majors - 
many of the players listed above are unlikely to play in the majors at all in 2009.  
ZiPS is projecting equivalent production - a .240 ZiPS projection may end up 
being .280 in AAA or .300 in AA, for example.  Whether or not a player will play 
is one of many non-statistical factors one has to take into account when predicting 
the future.

Players are listed with their most recent teams unless Dan has made a mistake.  
This is very possible as a lot of minor-league signings are generally unreported in
the offseason.  

ZiPS is projecting based on the AL having a 4.46 ERA and the NL having a 4.41 ERA.

Players that are expected to be out due to injury are still projected.  More information
is always better than less information and a computer isn't what should be projecting
the injury status of, for example, a pitcher with Tommy John surgery.

Positional offense is ranked by RC/27 and divided into quintiles based on what the 
most frequent starting players at each position did in 2007-2009.  Excellent is the top
quintile, Very Good the 2nd quintile and so on.

2010 ZiPS Projections Archive

Cardinals
Cubs
Diamondbacks
Dodgers
Giants
Indians
Mariners
Marlins
Mets
Nationals
Orioles
Padres
Phillies
Pirates
Rangers
Rays
Red Sox
Reds
Rockies
Royals
Tigers
Twins
White Sox
Yankees

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Dan Szymborski Posted: January 31, 2010 at 06:08 PM | 38 comment(s)
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   1. Dandy Little Glove Man  Posted: January 31, 2010 at 07:20 PM (#3451261)
Hey Dan, looks like Doug Davis is missing.
   2. BobbyS  Posted: January 31, 2010 at 07:26 PM (#3451262)
The Cubs will surely cub it up.

How does Weeks' batting average projection drop from last year (even if only .006), when he his well above it in the short time he did play. Is this taken from only '07, '08, and '09 leaving his '06 avg out of the equation and basically replacing it with the slightly lower but with far few at bats in '09?

The bullpen looks solid, if anybody other than Gallardo and Bush can get them a lead.
   3. The Fallen Reputation of Billy Jo Robidoux  Posted: January 31, 2010 at 07:34 PM (#3451264)
It would probably be worthless, but does ZIPS have a prediction for Capuano?
   4. Drexl Spivey  Posted: January 31, 2010 at 08:01 PM (#3451265)
That is one Cubbed up Mat Gamel projection. I thought he was supposed to be good at hitting and bad at fielding...apparently he sucks at both.
   5. puck  Posted: January 31, 2010 at 08:05 PM (#3451266)
Pretty good career projection for Fielder, considering his frame.
   6. JoeHova  Posted: January 31, 2010 at 08:17 PM (#3451269)
1,991 RBIs for Prince would be 6th all-time. A-Rod and Pujols and maybe a couple other guys (Manny, Griffey) will end up past that but that would still be an historically impressive total. I hope he can get there.

All in all, the team looks as uninspiring as I feared. Prince, Braun and Gallardo will probably have to beat those projections if the team is going to do anything (which is a lot to ask considering how good those 3 already are). I see ZiPS isn't buying McGehee's "breakout" last year or Gamel's potential. Counsell might still be their best option at 3rd, which is kind of funny.

Also, too bad DiFelice is out for the year, he's a nice story and a good pitcher.
   7. Dr. Leo Spaceman  Posted: January 31, 2010 at 08:18 PM (#3451271)
Prince Fielder est un monstre.
   8. San Luis Ocrispo Capuano  Posted: January 31, 2010 at 08:25 PM (#3451273)
Gamel was decent in the games he started in the majors. He was bad as a PH in the majors and when he got sent down, he just didn't perform well.

BTW, thanks Dan for these.
   9. Dock Ellis on Acid  Posted: January 31, 2010 at 09:14 PM (#3451286)
I mostly came here for Harveys's opinion. I'll come back later.
   10. Dan Szymborski  Posted: January 31, 2010 at 09:29 PM (#3451295)
Fielder's RBI total should be 1691.

ZiPS hates Gamel because Gamel's an absolute strikeout machine (the biggest improvement from old-style MLEs to my version is that traditional MLEs overrate very high BABIP hitters).

Don't know where Davis got to - I'm not at the ZiPS Supercomputer right now.
   11. JoeHova  Posted: January 31, 2010 at 10:01 PM (#3451307)
Fielder's RBI total should be 1691.

Dang! Still pretty good though.
   12. The Answer to the TWolves (GMoney)  Posted: January 31, 2010 at 10:39 PM (#3451325)
That is a pretty impressive collection of arms in the bullpen.
   13. GregD  Posted: January 31, 2010 at 10:52 PM (#3451333)
It's interesting that Prince's comparables suggest a fairly short career--Hrbek, Powell, Aikens, all of whom seem like reasonable, if somewhat-pessimistic comps, but his projected career looks quite long.
   14. Sessile Fielder (battlekow)  Posted: February 01, 2010 at 12:18 AM (#3451357)
It's interesting that Prince's comparables suggest a fairly short career--Hrbek, Powell, Aikens, all of whom seem like reasonable, if somewhat-pessimistic comps, but his projected career looks quite long.

No kidding. More hits than Braun?

Seems like with all the left-handed dross, Heether has at least a shot at making the roster. Assuming McGehee wins the 3B job, I'd much rather see Heether up and Gamel starting at Nashville than vice versa.

For those who don't follow the Brewers system, Heether's a nice story. He feels like a minor league free agent-type player, but he's actually been in the Brewers organization since 2003; they drafted him out of Long Beach State, where his infield-mate was Ryan Braun's future nemesis, Troy Tulowitzki.
   15. bigglou115  Posted: February 01, 2010 at 02:51 AM (#3451393)
Not bad for Jimmy boy. How'd you handle Edmonds' missed year? I think I remember Silver over at BP mentioned projecting a hypothetical 2009, but if I had to guess you didn't do that here. I'm guessing your comp system just handled him better?
   16. Walt Davis  Posted: February 01, 2010 at 04:20 AM (#3451400)
Glad to see the realistic Lopez projection. Paging Howard Megdal! :-) Would you prefer the projected SLG "heavy" 91 OPS+ and AV defense or the projected OBP heavy 94 OPS+ with FR defense? Is it really likely to be more than a handful of runs difference?

Now, who exactly was clamoring for the Corey Hart career projection?
   17. Imeat  Posted: February 01, 2010 at 04:27 AM (#3451401)
lots of new names in this years zips threads, hope you guys stay and enjoy the site and hopefully become an active participant in it.
   18. Dan Szymborski  Posted: February 01, 2010 at 09:37 AM (#3451428)
Not bad for Jimmy boy. How'd you handle Edmonds' missed year? I think I remember Silver over at BP mentioned projecting a hypothetical 2009, but if I had to guess you didn't do that here. I'm guessing your comp system just handled him better?

Previously, I went through baseball history and made a model for projecting the penalty of a missed season (obviously, bigger for pitchers than hitters).

When ZiPS sees a missing season or a season with a sudden dropoff to almost no playing time, it fills-in the low or no-play season to 38% of the previous baseline playing time for hitters and 26% of the previous baseline playing time for pitchers with an estimated penalty.

So, for Edmonds, ZiPS sees:

2006: 257/350/471 (408 PA)
2007: 252/325/403 (411 PA)
2008: 235/343/479 (401 PA)
2009: 217/301/393 (158 PA)

In essence, I had my computer problem-solve the best way to get the projection for players with missed or very partial seasons, given the baseline performance and the "return" performance and let it run for a day.
   19. Dan Szymborski  Posted: February 01, 2010 at 09:48 AM (#3451433)
OK, Doug Davis is there now (which makes the rotation look better, obviously).
   20. awebgsu  Posted: February 01, 2010 at 02:25 PM (#3451647)
Do you have a projection for Mike Cameron yet, since he signed with the Sox after they were done?
   21. BobbyS  Posted: February 01, 2010 at 07:25 PM (#3452149)
TO on Cameron:

http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/files/oracle/discussion/red_sox_signed_cameron/
   22. Moses Taylor is whenever  Posted: February 01, 2010 at 07:48 PM (#3452164)
The Cubs will surely cub it up.

Shouldn't the Brewers finish ahead of the Cubs one of these years before we get these comments? (Congrats on 05 and 06, when both teams were totally irrelevant). Now where's that smiley face key...

On paper, I don't see the Brewers competing. I don't see a lot of upside here, but at the same time I don't see a lot of downside (IOW, I don't see anyone that seems likely to significantly over or underpeform their projections). The Cubs, OTOH, have a lot bigger range(although I tend to lean towards the pessimistic side, considering age and injury history). I'm slightly underwhelmed by the Cardinals, but they're easily the class of the division.
   23. Teheran's Uranium Enriched Missiles  Posted: February 01, 2010 at 08:03 PM (#3452177)
This is the definition of a top heavy club, and that wasn't a joke about Prince Fielder!

A couple of good role player seasons, with a couple of bounceback seasons from Suppan and Parra might actually see them take the Central.
   24. Eddieot  Posted: February 01, 2010 at 08:30 PM (#3452198)
I think everybody forgets how good a player Corey Hart is. Unless he has an extra appendix that gets cranky I think he's poised for a breakout year. Every projection I've seen for him has been very conservative.
   25. Harveys Wallbangers  Posted: February 01, 2010 at 11:15 PM (#3452307)
What's disappointing about the Brewers is that GM Doug Melvin cannot seem to commit to a strategy. He originally focused on putting as many bats as possible into the lineup but the 2007 season collapsed because they didn't have a good read on Braun's defense, Estrada was a cancer and Yost did a horrific job with the pitching staff.

So Doug decides to go with defense in 2008 and it pays off. But what Doug failed to recognize some great contributions from his bench and he assigned WAY TOO MUCH credit to his catcher for the pitching staff performance.

Doug goes back to the slugging approach but doesn't go 'all in' so finishing 3rd in runs scored isn't enough to offset the collapse of the pitching staff. And Milwaukee got ridiculously LUCKY in 2009 as there ain't no way on God's green earth Casey, Felipe or Craig have years like that ever again.

So now it's back to pitching and defense with Prince and Ryan to provide the offense.

I will just point out the Brewers last year finished 2 games under .500 with only one starter with an ERA+ of over 100. The rest were, well, rather disgusting. So three guys of this caliber TRIPLES the population. That's progress.

I find the Gamel projection reacting very seriously to the 2009 season when Mat saw his strikeout rate spike through the roof between Triple A and the majors. I think with some time under his belt Mat will calm himself down at the plate.

Having Escobar and Gomez up the middle looks to be a great fit with the pitching staff. Real potential for the staff to be more at ease letting the opposition take their cuts knowing guys out there will track it down.

I like that this is a decidely young team with some guys with a chip on their shoulder. Corey Hart claims to not care that fans are getting impatient with him swinging at sliders in the dirt. Gomez wants to show the Twins they made a mistake. Gamel wants to keep third base to himself. Alcides is determined to snarf up every ground ball on the infield. Prince will be starting his salary bonaza drive. Ryan Braun just hates pitchers.

If Macha can hold the bullpen together and I can keep from biting off my left big toe to ease the pain from watching Doug Davis on the mound I think Milwaukee will exceed expectations.

And you have to love Mose assuming that the post was by a Brewer fan. As if nobody else on BBTF takes shots at the Cubs..........
   26. Josh1  Posted: February 01, 2010 at 11:30 PM (#3452313)
This projection is for an entirely different team from last year. 2009 ran out 5 excellent hitters and generally two black holes at any time. The projection has two excellent hitters, both worse than last year, and otherwise ordinary to poor hitters. On the plus side, no regular seems likely to quite reach the Mariana Trench-like depths of Kendall and to a lesser extent Hardy. Overall, however, the offense looks below hopes and a big step down.

On the pitching side, Gallardo was pretty good last year with promising peripherals, and all the other starters were atrocious. The projections have 4 solid guys and several other options better than most teams' back-of-rotation filler and also better than any 2009 starter outside of Gallardo. I suppose Parra also still has a small chance to break out. The pen looks good. If anything, the pitching according to the projections could easily be above average this year, though I'm not filled with confidence.
   27. BobbyS  Posted: February 02, 2010 at 02:02 AM (#3452371)
"The Cubs will surely cub it up."

Shouldn't the Brewers finish ahead of the Cubs one of these years before we get these comments? (Congrats on 05 and 06, when both teams were totally irrelevant). Now where's that smiley face key...


Those comments have nothing to do with the Brewers previous performance...
   28. DCW3   Posted: February 02, 2010 at 04:06 AM (#3452386)
It's got to be pretty difficult to put up a 127 OPS+ in almost 400 PAs and end up with a ZiPS projection of an 89 OPS+.
   29. kwarren  Posted: February 02, 2010 at 02:45 PM (#3452639)
It's got to be pretty difficult to put up a 127 OPS+ in almost 400 PAs and end up with a ZiPS projection of an 89 OPS+.


Well Robbie Alomar went from 150 to 89 in 2002. I'm sure McGefee will have no problem going from 127 to 89, especially based on his past history.
   30. The Polish Sausage Racer  Posted: February 02, 2010 at 06:00 PM (#3452902)
OTOH, it's entirely possible McGehee was spending more time working on his catching during his past history, and the move to 3rd let him concentrate more on his hitting. Just throwing the idea out there, because he was night & day when he switched positions. Post hoc etc. cautions assumed.
   31. Dan Szymborski  Posted: February 03, 2010 at 01:03 AM (#3453148)
Zach Braddock added.
   32. Sessile Fielder (battlekow)  Posted: February 03, 2010 at 01:37 AM (#3453154)
Can you do a hitting projection for Braddock? He's 1-1 in his career with a grand slam.
   33. Sammy's Corked Whine  Posted: February 03, 2010 at 04:00 PM (#3453517)
Maybe this really ought to be renamed the ZIPS Blog. As time has gone on, Dan's contributions via ZIPS have grown and grown, as his time to evaluate transactions has shrunk and shrunk. I'm as grateful for him and his work as ever, but given that there's no guarantee any particular transaction will be evaluated here, much less in a timely fashion, the title of the blog doesn't seem to apply so much anymore.

If there is to be a Transaction Oracle, maybe Dan could delegate it to a trusted peer. As much as I miss the timely looks at transaction, I'm not about to suggest he take his focus away from ZIPS. Maybe him getting a partner here is the answer?

This shouldn't be read as a complaint. Just some thoughts and observations.
   34. not a STEAGLES in any real sense of the word  Posted: February 03, 2010 at 04:08 PM (#3453528)

Can you do a hitting projection for Braddock? He's 1-1 in his career with a grand slam
did he get picked off first base there, too?
   35. kfsports  Posted: February 16, 2010 at 09:03 PM (#3461684)
Why is Felipe Lopez 2010 projection worse than his 2009 projection when he improved last season? It doesn't seem to make sense.
   36. Dan Szymborski  Posted: February 18, 2010 at 02:22 AM (#3462553)
Why is Felipe Lopez 2010 projection worse than his 2009 projection when he improved last season? It doesn't seem to make sense.

He's a year older and, more importantly, as 2005 becomes farther away, his potential upside decreases.

In addition, his improvement wasn't really much of an improvement - he had a BABIP of .358, more than 30 points better than his career high. Lopez didn't really perform like a 310/383/427 hitter, but more like a 285/350/390 hitter getting lucky.
   37. kfsports  Posted: February 18, 2010 at 08:14 AM (#3462573)
Thanks I knew there was an explanation that would make some sense. Never I looked at his BABIP numbers.
   38. sinicalypse  Posted: March 26, 2010 at 08:05 PM (#3486982)
personally, i look forward to seeing as many of joe koshansky's 94 RBIs as i can. it'll make the hourlong trek north all the more worthwhile, as i tell my future grandkids about one of those underappreciated players lost in the remetee braun and son fielder shuffle, the quietest 90 RBI in brewtown, those off of the mighty joe koshansky's bat.
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