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   1. Eric J is Financed by a Rich Grandpa Posted: October 28, 2009 at 10:32 PM (#3368989)
Based on an entirely cursory check of two players, it looks like Longoria is projected to have the lowest career OPS+ of any 500-HR hitter. Which is interesting, considering he's also projected for over 600 doubles and nearly 1200 walks.
   2. Inanimate Carbon Rod Barajas Posted: October 28, 2009 at 11:10 PM (#3369049)
How rare is it for a player so young to project to 500 home runs? It surprised me to see ZiPS projects it.

Also, another question for Dan. When you are extrapolating career statistics, are you just taking the 50% line for every season up until the point that they'd no longer be able to play major league baseball, or is it done differently?
   3. Dan Szymborski Posted: October 28, 2009 at 11:57 PM (#3369170)
Based on an entirely cursory check of two players, it looks like Longoria is projected to have the lowest career OPS+ of any 500-HR hitter.

That's pretty much because 500 homer level has only recently been "available" to non-ridiculous hitters. It's not impossible for one of the 400 guys to have hit 500 home runs in a better environment.
   4. jfish26101 Posted: October 29, 2009 at 01:43 AM (#3369545)
Was I in an alternate universe this year where Zobrist was actually good at the plate? A .950 OPS in the AL and probably the toughest division in baseball and yet his projection doesn't even crack .800? This is right up there with the horrible projection you gave Greinke last year...I certainly am biased but I'm having a hard time believing you are 100% objective looking at these. :(
   5. John DiFool2 Posted: October 29, 2009 at 01:56 AM (#3369621)
Has any young phenom's star fallen as far and as fast as B. J. Upton? .388 projected career slugging?

I also checked out the other 500 men, and only Ernie Banks (122) approaches E-Lo's projected OPS+. That surprised me a little, on both ends; given his still youthful age and current hitting level, I'd take the over on that (as in, a higher average, some more walks, a few more homers).
   6. Drew (Primakov, Gungho Iguanas) Posted: October 29, 2009 at 02:17 AM (#3369709)
Has any young phenom's star fallen as far and as fast as B. J. Upton? .388 projected career slugging?


To me he's the Donovan McNabb of baseball. He could be MVP next year, or he could ride the bench, and neither would be truly surprising.
   7. tl; dr (Voxter) Posted: October 29, 2009 at 02:48 AM (#3369787)
I certainly am biased but I'm having a hard time believing you are 100% objective looking at these. :(


If "team"="Tampa Bay Rays" and "player"="Zobrist" then "OPS=798".

I think that's how Dan's subjective computer analysis works, right?
   8. The importance of being Ernest Riles Posted: October 29, 2009 at 02:50 AM (#3369792)
I love the Satchel Paige comp for Russ Springer.
   9. Walt Davis Posted: October 29, 2009 at 02:53 AM (#3369796)
So ZiPS is projecting another 2.5 seasons for Burrell. If that projection is correct, ZiPS is probably being kind.

Oh, wait, does playing for the Royals still count as time in the majors?
   10. Robinson Cano Plate Like Home Posted: October 29, 2009 at 03:36 AM (#3369831)
Kind of crazy that Bartlett has one great season in his late 20s, and suddenly there's Barry Larkin and Tony Fernandez on his comp list. Is that ZIPS saying he's no fluke?
   11. Walt Davis Posted: October 29, 2009 at 08:58 PM (#3370740)
Dan, Dan, Dan ... when will you bring your vile anti-Zobrist campaign to an end?

Because there's clearly no other rational explanation.

Though I also wouldn't be surprised to find that jfish26101 does live in a different universe than most of us most of the time ... though clearly they've got way cooler names in that universe.

it's not like the human psyche is something you can take a pill and the condition just goes away.

Suicide is painless.

Kind of crazy that Bartlett has one great season in his late 20s, and suddenly there's Barry Larkin and Tony Fernandez on his comp list. Is that ZIPS saying he's no fluke?

ZiPS comps are "recent-season" comps not career comps. So Fernandez makes some sense as from ages 27-29 he was putting up a 100ish OPS+.

But Dan might want to check that the Frinkenator is working right on the Larkin comp because he put up OPS+ of 143, 132, 124 for ages 27-29.

Or, FAR more likely, it's his pro-Bartlett conspiracy ... expect him to come along any minute now with some reasonable-sounding explanation for why Bartlett's 2009 wasn't a fluke.
   12. JPWF13 Posted: October 29, 2009 at 09:50 PM (#3370785)
It's not impossible for one of the 400 guys to have hit 500 home runs in a better environment.


like Kingman?
   13. Shilzzz Posted: October 30, 2009 at 04:23 AM (#3371529)
Really looking forward to San Diego and San Francisco
   14. Drew (Primakov, Gungho Iguanas) Posted: October 30, 2009 at 06:44 AM (#3371550)
it's not like the human psyche is something you can take a pill and the condition just goes away.


Normally I'd have a 4000-word rant about the pharmaceutical industry in response, but it's 4AM, so I'll just settle for "you're right, Dan."
   15. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: November 04, 2009 at 11:25 PM (#3378000)
Hey, Dan: Why is Iwamura projected for more PT than Bartlett? A guy on another blog asked me, and I couldn't figure out, given that Bartlett has more PT in two of the last three years, including a big edge in 2009.
   16. Biff isn't really an apt handle anymore Posted: November 04, 2009 at 11:35 PM (#3378003)
I would like to know what the elections mean for the Rays.
   17. Dan Szymborski Posted: November 04, 2009 at 11:46 PM (#3378013)
Hey, Dan: Why is Iwamura projected for more PT than Bartlett? A guy on another blog asked me, and I couldn't figure out, given that Bartlett has more PT in two of the last three years, including a big edge in 2009.

As an experiment, for playing time purposes, ZiPS assumes that hitters with a huge year-to-year drop in playing time and are above replacement level but with little or no drop in ability are injured and for playing time purposes only, takes those numbers into less account. The 707 PA is a larger-than-usual component for his expected playing time.

Injured hitter playing time recovers, on a year-to-year basis, far, far better than injured pitcher playing time.

As I noted, it's an experiment this year. It's not really a big deal, I'm primarily worried about projecting rates.
   18. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: November 04, 2009 at 11:55 PM (#3378017)
Thanks! That makes sense - I'll let him know.
   19. Ivan Grushenko of Hong Kong Posted: November 05, 2009 at 05:00 PM (#3379636)
Where does Jesse Chavez fit in to all this?
   20. Rays&Sox; Posted: November 10, 2009 at 01:47 AM (#3383642)
Is it unusual that Iwamura's projection is exactly the same as last year's right down to the AB's? I would think between adding in another year's stats and aging a year the odds of that would be pretty low?
   21. Dan Szymborski Posted: November 10, 2009 at 10:47 PM (#3384390)
Uh-oh, that's not good!
   22. josehamiton1032 Posted: November 20, 2009 at 07:49 PM (#3392778)
I think that Zobrist will have a better year than what is projected. I do not think that he will fade away and hit .261
   23. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: December 01, 2009 at 06:19 PM (#3400293)
If you get a chance, Dan, could you run Aneury Rodriguez? I think he's a pretty good bet to go in the Rule 5 this year, and I'm curious to see how he stacks up.
   24. LB813 Posted: January 05, 2010 at 03:08 PM (#3428117)
Im surprised there wasnt a projection for Matthew Moore. Didnt expect a good one or even useable, but thought there would be one. Maybe Alex Cobb too.
   25. Greg (U)K Posted: August 30, 2010 at 06:07 PM (#3630045)
I certainly am biased but I'm having a hard time believing you are 100% objective looking at these. :(

I agree. Clearly Dan took some bribes from Zobrist this off-season.
   26. Crispix Attacks Posted: August 30, 2010 at 06:31 PM (#3630073)
Jose Bautista's secret satchel of steriods must have been stolen from Zobrist last September.
   27. Dan Szymborski Posted: August 30, 2010 at 06:37 PM (#3630086)
I had similar arguments about Kung Fu Panda. On another blog, someone seriously argued that since ZiPS missed Sandoval's 2009 OPS by 180 points, that it should be assumed that Sandoval's 2010 would also be missed by 180 points and as ZiPS projected an .884 OPS for 2010, that it was safe to assume that Sandoval was the easy frontrunner for the MVP.
   28. Famous Original Joe C Posted: August 30, 2010 at 06:38 PM (#3630087)
I certainly am biased

Yep!
   29. The Essex Snead Posted: August 30, 2010 at 07:01 PM (#3630128)
[29] I'm thinking Bautista ganked some goodies from Pena's stash as well! And then stepped on his foot & broke his fingers! That bastard!
   30. Crispix Attacks Posted: August 30, 2010 at 07:05 PM (#3630132)
And he replaced Lind, Hill and Snider's steriods with sugar pills so he wouldn't have to share the glory.
   31. RJ in TO Posted: August 30, 2010 at 07:07 PM (#3630139)
I've been greatly amused by Carlos Pena's long, slow offensive trip down Rob Deer Blvd.
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