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Thursday, January 17, 2008

Cards - Might Sign Juan Gonzalez

St. Louis Cardinals - Reportedly interested in signing OF Juan Gonzalez.

Criticizing moves is kinda like backseat driving, so I made a list of things that were better ideas than signing Juan Gonzalez in an attempt to be positive and proactive. In order to preserve the site's bandwidth, I'm picking a random 7 of them.

Dan Szymborski Posted: January 17, 2008 at 02:37 PM | 100 comment(s)
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1. He's Bought a Bat Like Prince Fielder Posted: January 17, 2008 at 02:53 PM (#2670571)

Looks like someone didn't want to wait.

2. Cowboy Popup Posted: January 17, 2008 at 03:03 PM (#2670579)

F'n brilliant!

3. Pl Msrkwks Posted: January 17, 2008 at 03:15 PM (#2670588)

You have outdone yourself this time, Dan. Was the ZiPS projection "Don't F*****g Bother"?

4. Dayton Moore is a Big Fat Idiot (AG#1F) Posted: January 17, 2008 at 03:21 PM (#2670593)

That was hilarious, but I don't get the very last one, and I can't see what the ebay one is! Brilliant though.

5. retro-shiite Posted: January 17, 2008 at 03:27 PM (#2670598)

This blows the famous "toast" TO entry away. (I might've thrown a Nigerian bank deposit email in there, but that's a nit not worth picking, since I wouldn't've come up with the rest.)

6. Elisabeth R�hm and Walter Haas Posted: January 17, 2008 at 03:32 PM (#2670599)

What the hell is the print on those underoos?

7. The Artist Posted: January 17, 2008 at 03:33 PM (#2670601)

This is quite possibly the greatest achievement in DAn's history here.

8. AJM Posted: January 17, 2008 at 03:35 PM (#2670604)

Great stuff. Except for the 5th one, you suck.

9. North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan Posted: January 17, 2008 at 03:41 PM (#2670609)

Brilliant Dan!

Although this one was pretty damn good too.

10. Coach Mark S. is a blogging fool Posted: January 17, 2008 at 03:47 PM (#2670614)

What the hell is the print on those underoos?

Spongebob?

11. Coach Mark S. is a blogging fool Posted: January 17, 2008 at 03:48 PM (#2670615)

That was hilarious, but I don't get the very last one

Compare the size of the opposing armies.

12. sotapop Posted: January 17, 2008 at 03:49 PM (#2670616)

the Scientology one has me forwarding the link. awesome.
No. 7: the charge of light brigade?
how long have you been stockpiling bad ideas for just this moment? :)
that reminds me -- the SNL bit for "Bad Ideas" jeans. "but I figured, when will I be in haiti again?"

13. Shooty Did Not Kill McGurk

Posted: January 17, 2008 at 03:52 PM (#2670620)

I think we may be able to retire the primeys now.

14. Sparkles Peterson Posted: January 17, 2008 at 04:06 PM (#2670632)

I know people are going to claim this is because I'm a Cardinals fan (But I'm neither a fan of this potential transaction nor Mozeliak), but this was just overkill. Dan's simpler snark is better.

15. Bob Dernier Cri

Posted: January 17, 2008 at 04:06 PM (#2670633)

Didn't Dan also do the venues for relocation piece (Medieval England and others)? I don't know where that one was first posted. Also RDF.

16. Russlan wants Pedro to be a Met again Posted: January 17, 2008 at 04:12 PM (#2670635)

Best TO ever.

17. Guts

Posted: January 17, 2008 at 04:14 PM (#2670637)

This was pretty epic. My favorite TO is still the Kazmir-Zambrano trade, but this certainly beats the toast.

18. Elisabeth R�hm and Walter Haas Posted: January 17, 2008 at 04:14 PM (#2670638)

I do hear Fallujah is beautiful this time of year.

19. strummer Posted: January 17, 2008 at 04:19 PM (#2670646)

"That was hilarious, but I don't get the very last one"

Compare the size of the opposing armies.

Not so quick. If those French are the General's Bodyguard Mounted Fuedal Knights and the English consist mainly of Pasants & Peasant Archers, they may be able to pull it off. Though if there are any Spearmen or pikeman amongst the English, it is all over.

20. Dingbat Charlie

Posted: January 17, 2008 at 04:21 PM (#2670650)

an instant classic.

21. Los Angeles Softballer of Anaheim

Posted: January 17, 2008 at 04:24 PM (#2670657)

It's been five minutes, and I'm still laughing. Kudos! and kudos again!

22. retro-shiite Posted: January 17, 2008 at 04:31 PM (#2670662)

16:

As you see, I disagree with you, though that was indeed a classic.

23. McCoy Posted: January 17, 2008 at 04:34 PM (#2670664)

That was hilarious, but I don't get the very last one

Compare the size of the opposing armies.

Strummer beat me to it but it looks like it is heavy cavalry charging into a line of longbowmen. Judging by how few casualties the knights are suffering they are either really highly armored and trained or the longbowmnen are newbies. The knights should be able to rout most of the bowmen without suffering too much and if that mass in the middle are simple spearmen it might cause them to rout as well, and if not you still have a good chance of positioning the knights in the rear of the spearmen. I've done it and I've had the computer do it to me. Nothing more infuriating then watching 20 heavy cav's go rampaging through your 600 man army.

24. BourbonSamurai Posted: January 17, 2008 at 04:47 PM (#2670676)

The last one is supposed to be Agincourt, I think.

25. No Cure for the Francoeur (Dave) Posted: January 17, 2008 at 04:49 PM (#2670684)

Compare the size of the opposing armies.

I don't know what that last one is supposed to be, but based on the flags, there appear to be 3 armies rather than 2. And the red arrow is pointing to the one stuck in the middle.

I do hear Fallujah is beautiful this time of year.

Maybe Dan meant the stupid thing was buying the return ticket back to Baltimore.

26. retro-shiite Posted: January 17, 2008 at 05:04 PM (#2670691)

Judging by some parts of Baltimore I've seen, I might actually prefer Fallujah.

Be sure to show me around at the meetup.

27. McCoy Posted: January 17, 2008 at 05:10 PM (#2670695)

It isn't three armies it is two armies. English vs. French. The archers have the lion while the regular army has the more normal two lion flag.

28. Bad Doctor Posted: January 17, 2008 at 05:15 PM (#2670699)

Maybe Dan meant the stupid thing was buying the return ticket back to Baltimore.

I thought it was tolerating a flight with five small children. Or trying to get through customs with them, one or the other.

29. Dan Szymborski

Posted: January 17, 2008 at 05:30 PM (#2670709)

30. Dan Szymborski

Posted: January 17, 2008 at 05:35 PM (#2670712)

Relocation Bible

31. McCoy Posted: January 17, 2008 at 05:47 PM (#2670720)

Shoot, I was hoping you guys wouldn't notice they were longbowmen. In my attempts to get good terrain and a shot of both armies at once, I accidentally got the computer disorganized a bit. The knights would scatter the bowmen, but not the 5 units of heavy billmen.

Depends on the fear level of the knights, the billmens experience level, their generals penalties, and their formation. If the bill set themselves up in some sort of square you are screwed but if you face off against a bad general with bad penalties and he has his billmen chase after the knights all over the map then the knights could beat the billmen. Especially if the Knights are highly experienced and the general has some good bonuses.

32. Elisabeth R�hm and Walter Haas Posted: January 17, 2008 at 05:47 PM (#2670721)

Be sure to show me around at the meetup.
Primer meetup in Fallujah?

33. retro-shiite Posted: January 17, 2008 at 05:57 PM (#2670727)

Fallujah features "warning tracks" of a whole different stripe.

34. Swedish Chef Posted: January 17, 2008 at 05:59 PM (#2670729)

Not that French knights has a great record against English longbowmen througout history.

35. The Artist Posted: January 17, 2008 at 06:10 PM (#2670736)

Not that French knights has a great record against English longbowmen througout history.

Wait, you don't count Agincourt as a resounding success? ;)

36. Joshemy Posted: January 17, 2008 at 06:13 PM (#2670740)

I laughed at #5. That doesn't mean I don't hate you for it Dan.

37. MSI Posted: January 17, 2008 at 06:19 PM (#2670743)

It's one of God's cosmic ironies that Dan is an Orioles fan.

38. The Artist Posted: January 17, 2008 at 06:21 PM (#2670747)

By French standards it was.

I half to admit, I laughed at this. French military jokes are always good for a chuckle.

39. JMN Is Convinced He Has H1N1 Every Time He Coughs Posted: January 17, 2008 at 06:44 PM (#2670765)

Does someone have an archive of the really good TOs somewhere?

40. Moe Greene Posted: January 17, 2008 at 06:54 PM (#2670773)

I've been out of computer/video gaming for awhile... Which game is featured in the last photo?

41. broth of abominable things (CoB) Posted: January 17, 2008 at 07:01 PM (#2670780)

Medieval II: Total War

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medieval_II:_Total_War

Hellofa game, great series ...

42. CW uses it as a stick to beat someone with Posted: January 17, 2008 at 07:10 PM (#2670790)

Have to ding you on this one. Fallujah doesn't actually have it's own airport. Closest you'd be able to manage is to fly in to Baghdad and then drive the rest of the way. It's not a long drive, if that's any consolation.

43. Walt Davis Posted: January 17, 2008 at 07:52 PM (#2670813)

1. Dude, you need to hear the Richard Thompson version.

3. I was hoping those were primer chimp panties.

5. Signing Juan Gonzalez is NOT a worse idea than trading Kazmir for Zambrano ... though that was damn funny.

6. I feel sorry for Mrs. Szym -- ages 2, 3, 4, 5, 6? Give the poor woman a break Dan.

44. Dan Szymborski

Posted: January 17, 2008 at 08:10 PM (#2670830)

6. I feel sorry for Mrs. Szym -- ages 2, 3, 4, 5, 6? Give the poor woman a break Dan.

Sweet Jesus, I have no children.

45. Rafael Bellylard has become a Mets fan! Posted: January 17, 2008 at 08:21 PM (#2670837)

I noticed that was one adult with five children. If it were my second ex-wife, this wouldn't qualify as a bad idea, no matter whose kids they were.

46. Rocco's Not-so Malfunctioning Mitochondria Posted: January 17, 2008 at 08:56 PM (#2670860)

http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/files/oracle/discussion/devil_rays_recalled_taylor/

Still my favorite.

47. VegasRobb Posted: January 17, 2008 at 09:01 PM (#2670864)

Excellent!

48. Sammy's Corked Whine Posted: January 17, 2008 at 09:03 PM (#2670867)

I still think the best one ever is:
http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/files/oracle/discussion/devil_rays_signed_alomar/

49. zonk Posted: January 17, 2008 at 09:12 PM (#2670873)

Mr. Szymborski - Tom Cruise's lawyer is on the phone....

Should I take a message?

50. The Kevin Mitchell Report Posted: January 17, 2008 at 09:38 PM (#2670892)

I always liked the Jacque Jones signing with Chicago one, but this is outstanding.

51. MSI Posted: January 17, 2008 at 10:13 PM (#2670916)

Uh, what was the thread like for the Juan Pierre signing?

52. Dan The Mediocre Posted: January 17, 2008 at 11:03 PM (#2670939)

Shoot, I was hoping you guys wouldn't notice they were longbowmen. In my attempts to get good terrain and a shot of both armies at once, I accidentally got the computer disorganized a bit. The knights would scattered the bowmen, but not the 5 units of heavy billmen.

I am simultaneously ashamed and proud to have been able to tell that they were billmen.

I should also note that I see the rest of your army behind the hills.

53. Dan Szymborski

Posted: January 17, 2008 at 11:18 PM (#2670949)

Those are trees on the Hattin map. I just had the one knight group against longbowmen and billmen.

54. cardsfanboy

Posted: January 17, 2008 at 11:29 PM (#2670954)

I have no problem with taking a flier on any player, but of course with the current managements decision making, our probably best outfielder (ludwick) will be the odd man out if Juan remotely shows an ability to play.(not like that is really possible)

55. dr. bleachers Posted: January 17, 2008 at 11:32 PM (#2670955)

I think Barton is more likely the expendable outfielder, CFB. It would be a shame if Juan got lucky on a couple of hanging sliders in Florida and the kid went back to Buffalo for 2008.

56. PH Posted: January 17, 2008 at 11:50 PM (#2670962)

The Reggie Taylor one still holds as my favorite.

57. Robert S. Posted: January 18, 2008 at 12:08 AM (#2670969)

The Kazmir trade is the gift that just keeps on giving.

58. Stealfirstbase (Liberalthinkfactory.org member) Posted: January 18, 2008 at 12:27 AM (#2670976)

Hey, what game is that seventh "bad idea" from? I generally love strategy games, and I might like to give that one a try.

59. KJOK Posted: January 18, 2008 at 12:31 AM (#2670979)

I would have to say I think playind Diamond Mind and using Travelocity are two EXCELLENT ideas.....oh wait, that's not what he meant...

60. Balkroth Posted: January 18, 2008 at 01:15 AM (#2670987)

Hey, what game is that seventh "bad idea" from? I generally love strategy games, and I might like to give that one a try.

I believe it's Medieval: Total War, but I haven't played that game in a few years. Definately fun though.

61. cardsfanboy

Posted: January 18, 2008 at 01:23 AM (#2670990)

I think Barton is more likely the expendable outfielder, CFB. It would be a shame if Juan got lucky on a couple of hanging sliders in Florida and the kid went back to Buffalo for 2008.

seems possible, with the way this organization has gone out of its way to prevent Brendan Ryan from even getting a legitimate chance to play, it wouldn't suprise me if they block someone else for an over the hill veteran. (I'm just glad Taguchi signed a guaranteed contract)

Cardinals best lineup is C yadier, 1b Pujols, 2b Kennedy, SS Ryan, 3b Glaus, of Ludwick, duncan and ankiel....

the likely lineup is Yadier, Pujols, Miles, Izturis, Glaus, Ankiel, Duncan, Juan/schumaker.

62. zonk Posted: January 18, 2008 at 09:18 AM (#2671069)

Since it appears that there are a number of Total War fans here, describe your affinity...

I never cared much for the Age of Empires, Cossacks: European Wars, type games - it always seemed to devolve into nothing but a click and melee pixel fest. There would always be this breathless push in the manuals to properly balance your armies, use formations, etc --- then inevitably, it turned into a "who can build more faster" game.

I've always preferred more the Paradox shop type games (Europa Univeralis, the Hearts of Iron series, etc)...

Has Total War really managed to bridge the gap between the two sub-genres?

63. 1k5v3L, Useless

Posted: January 18, 2008 at 09:21 AM (#2671072)

Let me be the latest poster to say "BRAVO, DAN!"

I love the name of your lottery in 4: EL_GORDO LOTTERY DE LA PRIMITIVA. Priceless.

64. Grunthos Posted: January 18, 2008 at 10:21 AM (#2671145)

Total War has only partially bridged the gap. It's by no means a pure clickfest... the strategy elements are pretty solid, although they've made some limiting design decisions along the way. The mod community has produced some really slick upgrades, too. But the tactical AI remains abysmal. The series cries out for a moddable AI, which would get pretty good pretty quick with all the interested parties that would work on it.

65. Superunknown Gary Geiger Counter Posted: January 18, 2008 at 10:33 AM (#2671153)

I have no problem with taking a flier on any player, but of course with the current managements decision making, our probably best outfielder (ludwick) will be the odd man out if Juan remotely shows an ability to play.(not like that is really possible)

I figured that the rationale behind this was to have him face Mike Maroth in batting practice as a sort of, you know, confidence booster for Mike.

66. Dan Szymborski

Posted: January 18, 2008 at 10:42 AM (#2671160)

The Total War games are quite different from the Age of Empires games. They're not RTSs. The battle map and campaign map are separate entities in the game. When you're on the campaign map, movements are turn-based and the emphasis is far more on diplomacy, city improvements, and forming armies than it is about hoarding resources (of which there's practically none other than having enough commercial stuff and taxes to fund your army).

Total War also has a very active mod community that gets support from the developers. There are a number of mods out there that completely change the game (and you don't lose the original game either).

The one downside of Medieval 2 is that it has fairly high system requirements, though that's less of a big deal as the game's over a year old now. But still, unless you have at least a GB of RAM and a video card that dates at least from 2004/2005, you might want to try the original Medieval Total War instead!

67. Dan Szymborski

Posted: January 18, 2008 at 10:42 AM (#2671161)

The series cries out for a moddable AI, which would get pretty good pretty quick with all the interested parties that would work on it.

There are in fact user-made AI patches out there.

68. McCoy Posted: January 18, 2008 at 01:20 PM (#2671298)

I dislike the new strategy interface that they adopted for Rome Total War and then used for MTW2. I liked the old RISK type interface of moving icons over a map instead of little people walking around the map.

Basically now the game has become a cross between Civilization and Civil War though technically Civil War had the same strategy map zoom into battle type interface.

Out of all of them Hearts of Iron is probaly the most complicated and has an extremely high micro-management required gameplay. Europa was good too but again there is a lot of micro managing in that one as well. Plus you have to be really patient in that game and do things that will get result decades into the future.

69. Dan Szymborski

Posted: January 18, 2008 at 01:27 PM (#2671308)

Out of all of them Hearts of Iron is probaly the most complicated and has an extremely high micro-management required gameplay. Europa was good too but again there is a lot of micro managing in that one as well. Plus you have to be really patient in that game and do things that will get result decades into the future.

Crusader Kings just got an add-on release that fixes a lot of the interface problems, so if you're a Paradox fan, I'd check it out.

70. zonk Posted: January 18, 2008 at 01:32 PM (#2671313)

OK - thanks, all.

Dan's note about sys reqs probably means I'll have to pass for now... The grand strategy AND battlefield level tactical mix does intrigue me, though.

If anyone from congress or the administration is reading this -- I've decided I'm not really interested in financing a new PC, so I'm socking cash away... current savings + tax refund still leaves me a couple hundy (~$500) short of the setup I'm looking at, so keep that in mind as you debate a stimulus package!

71. Al Kaline Trio Posted: January 18, 2008 at 02:01 PM (#2671350)

Wood Chopper!

72. Dan The Mediocre Posted: January 18, 2008 at 02:01 PM (#2671351)

I dislike the new strategy interface that they adopted for Rome Total War and then used for MTW2. I liked the old RISK type interface of moving icons over a map instead of little people walking around the map.

I have to admit I like the new one better. It's more to the actual campaign style you would have seen then, and offers a chance to march through allies to hit enemies, as well as help allies during invasions.

Dan's note about sys reqs probably means I'll have to pass for now... The grand strategy AND battlefield level tactical mix does intrigue me, though.

Play Rome: Total War.

73. Grunthos Posted: January 18, 2008 at 03:23 PM (#2671413)

There are in fact user-made AI patches out there.

Yes, I know. I use them where possible... but CA has limited the AI modding capacity to initial formations and other peripheral AI helpers. Units still run around like headless chickens once you start the fight. Giving the mod community access to the real nuts-and-bolts settings would help quite a bit.

Play Rome: Total War.

I second this advice. R:TW isn't as much of a system hog, and there are very polished mods for it that can do wonders for the gameplay. My personal fave is Europa Barbarorum (www.europabarbarorum.com), but you can wander around Total War Center (www.twcenter.net) and find dozens of others.

74. Der Komminsk-sar Posted: January 18, 2008 at 03:42 PM (#2671425)

Now I know how my wife feels when I talk about baseball.

75. Geoff Young Posted: January 18, 2008 at 05:02 PM (#2671492)

Well played, sir. I've actually had nightmares involving that Britney playlist.

76. broth of abominable things (CoB) Posted: January 18, 2008 at 05:32 PM (#2671515)

wow ... that europa barbarorum mod looks fantastic, i might have to dust off R:TW this weekend and give it a spin

77. CW uses it as a stick to beat someone with Posted: January 18, 2008 at 08:53 PM (#2671601)

Cardinals best lineup is C yadier, 1b Pujols, 2b Kennedy, SS Ryan, 3b Glaus, of Ludwick, duncan and ankiel....

the likely lineup is Yadier, Pujols, Miles, Izturis, Glaus, Ankiel, Duncan, Juan/schumaker.

Actually, ZiPS seems to think more highly of Miles than Kennedy, and I'd tend to agree with that.

This is not to say that Miles is good. Just... Kennedy is bad.

78. greenback

Posted: January 18, 2008 at 09:05 PM (#2671607)

I figured that the rationale behind this was to have him face Mike Maroth in batting practice as a sort of, you know, confidence booster for Mike.

Maroth was cut loose. It would apply for Mark Mulder though, especially with Tyler Herron (homophone) and Brian Barton in camp.

79. Brandon in MO (Fire Trey Hillman) Posted: January 18, 2008 at 09:13 PM (#2671609)

So, which idea is bette, violating the copyrights of Scientology or signing Juan Gonzalez?

80. Dan Szymborski

Posted: January 18, 2008 at 09:28 PM (#2671620)

So, which idea is bette, violating the copyrights of Scientology or signing Juan Gonzalez?

I'm fairly certain that the usage above easily falls within fair use.

81. Brandon in MO (Fire Trey Hillman) Posted: January 18, 2008 at 11:03 PM (#2671645)

well, I wasn't suggesting that your screenshot violated copyright. I was asking if signing Gonzalez would be better than posting OT8 in it's entireity.

82. Johnny Tuttle Posted: January 19, 2008 at 07:43 AM (#2671700)

Dan, you're the best.

And do I need to link to the Alomar one to be able to toast er post here? It's linked here like 5 times.

83. DCW3 Posted: January 19, 2008 at 02:48 PM (#2671899)

Actually, ZiPS seems to think more highly of Miles than Kennedy, and I'd tend to agree with that.

This is not to say that Miles is good. Just... Kennedy is bad.

Miles might be a better hitter at this point, but I think Kennedy's defense makes him the better starting option. Of course, a bullet to the head is a better option than either.

84. The Kevin Mitchell Report Posted: January 19, 2008 at 03:55 PM (#2671915)

Here's one of my faves:

http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/files/oracle/discussion/cubs_signed_jones/

85. The Milton Bradley Effort Posted: January 20, 2008 at 04:56 PM (#2672539)

Tom Cruise is going to be pissed.

86. The Clarence Thomas of BTF (scott) Posted: January 20, 2008 at 07:13 PM (#2672568)

i've gotta say, i love medieval 2 more than rome. that may be because i adore cavalry uber alles, and medieval lets me do more with them.

*flankflankflankflankflank*

also, brilliant, Dan. bravo.

87. McCoy Posted: January 20, 2008 at 07:23 PM (#2672569)

MTW 2 was the first time I really got to use the cavalry effectively. I don't know if it was me or if it was the computer program but it seems that MTW2 handles the cavalry charges much better then the previous versions. I love watching the lancers go tearing into a unit and having the bodies go flying.

88. Chris Hansen, NBC Dateline Posted: January 20, 2008 at 07:26 PM (#2672571)

Thanks, Kevin Mitchell Report. That's my all-time TO favorite.

And I didn't know there were so many wargame geeks here too. Y'all have me thinking of digging out MTW2 and EU3 now.

89. cardsfanboy

Posted: January 20, 2008 at 08:42 PM (#2672602)

Actually, ZiPS seems to think more highly of Miles than Kennedy, and I'd tend to agree with that.

This is not to say that Miles is good. Just... Kennedy is bad.

I don't agree personally, Kennedy had a bad year last year which is heavily influencing any prediction, but part of that was injury, slow start and lack of confidence from his manager all conspired. If both Miles and Kennedy played 150 games, there is zero belief in me that Miles will end up having the better season.

90. Dan Szymborski

Posted: January 20, 2008 at 08:49 PM (#2672608)

And I didn't know there were so many wargame geeks here too. Y'all have me thinking of digging out MTW2 and EU3 now.

I think it's part of baseball's demographics. A big part of being a nutty baseball fan is appreciating baseball's history, so I'm guessing nutty baseball fans have appreciation of history in general more than the average person. Plus, BTF is predominantly male, white, ages 18-49, and probably middle-to-upper-middle class, so you also get a key video game demographic and a key History Channel demographic.

91. McCoy Posted: January 20, 2008 at 09:21 PM (#2672624)

and a key History Channel demographic.

The History Channel ain't what it used to be. Ice Road Truckers ain't history it's pandering to the stupid reality genre.

92. Dan Evensen Posted: January 20, 2008 at 09:36 PM (#2672628)

OMFG HE IZ FUNIE AGAYN!

Nice post, Dan. Up there with the famous Orioles - Signed Baez trade, as well as the Baseball Stars demonstration of the Cubs with Jacques Jones.

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