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1. Bitter Calculus Instructor Posted: May 08, 2009 at 08:19 PM (#3171415)

I don't see how those Zips say Paul is better than Pierre.

2. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: May 08, 2009 at 08:26 PM (#3171420)

Gary Matthews Jr. is available.

3. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: May 08, 2009 at 08:30 PM (#3171424)

"I don't see how those Zips say Paul is better than Pierre"

40 points of SLG for 15 points of OBP. That's a trade you make every time.

Both Paul and Pierre have plus speed and plus corner defense, so you can't just mulligan Juan the gap there, either.

4. baudib Posted: May 08, 2009 at 08:33 PM (#3171428)

I think the case against Juan Pierre has always been overstated. Granted, he's a weak-hitting corner outfielder, but I think he's above replacement level. If he can hit .310 for 50 games, which he is eminently capable of doing, the Dodgers won't have any problems. They have plenty of capable middle-of-the-order hitters, while nowhere near as good as Manny. With their fast start, they just have to tread water until July, and they probaby will do a little better than that.

5. regfairfield Posted: May 08, 2009 at 08:34 PM (#3171431)

Pierre's speed and corner defense are way plussier though.

6. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: May 08, 2009 at 08:38 PM (#3171435)

"Pierre's speed and corner defense are way plussier though."

Well, that'll be the question. Left to his own devices, Pierre will probably run more than Paul, so if he can pick his spots well (i.e. 2008, not 2004), he'll have more opportunity to make up ground with his legs. And playing in LF helps disguise the weakness of his arm, which is one of Paul's edges in the field.

7. akrasian Posted: May 08, 2009 at 08:49 PM (#3171444)

I don't think it's a given that Pierre will be getting that many more starts than Paul. IF Paul can perform, I can see Torre giving him more and more time.

That being said, Pierre shouldn't be that bad. Obviously, not in the same zip code as Manny as a hitter, but better on the basepaths and better in the field. And since Manny was being rested about once a week (at least weeks without offdays) Manny would have missed some time anyway. Not a good thing, but I'd expect the Dodgers to more than tread water while he's gone.

8. Tripon Posted: May 28, 2009 at 05:11 AM (#3196944)

Jeez, who could have predicted Pierre's godly stats almost a month later?

9. Frank McCourt's Gold Stars are in bankruptcy court Posted: May 28, 2009 at 06:28 AM (#3196961)

I wonder who finally got Pierre to ramp up his strike-zone judgment.
He's also getting the ball in the air more - career-low GB/FB of 1.54.

10. Morally Excellent Posted: May 28, 2009 at 06:54 AM (#3196963)

0.996 OPS with 0 homers; that's tough to do!

11. Tripon Posted: May 28, 2009 at 07:06 AM (#3196966)

Juan Pierre platoon splits

Against RPH: 92 PA, .346/.424/.457, .881 OPS
Against LPH: 32 PA, .536/.581/.750, 1.331 OPS

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