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1. KJOK Posted: December 15, 2007 at 06:02 AM (#2646329)

His last 3 years ERA in Japan were:

3.57
2.17!
4.75

5.10 seems a bit harsh....

2. The District Attorney Posted: December 15, 2007 at 06:08 AM (#2646331)

Kinda like when Steve Phillips got all excited over Tsuyoshi Shinjo for no reason in particular.

Shinjo had some things going for him. He was an excellent fielder; he had flair and was fun to watch; and in '01, he and Desi Relaford seemed like the only guys on the team who could do anything right. The statline doesn't bowl you over, but in between the defense and timely hitting, on the rare occasion that anything ever went well for that team, Shinjo was usually in the middle of it.

Of course, he sucked after that. And I certainly agree that settling for the "next best" Japanese guy doesn't seem to often work (Igawa being Exhibit A.) Heck, I suspect that Kuroda is in that category himself, rather than being in the Dice-K/Sasaki category.

3. AROM Posted: December 15, 2007 at 06:16 AM (#2646333)

Don't think that's harsh. The best hitter he faced the last 3 years was Fukudome - he's good but the AL has a few guys who are better. He's escaping the small ballparks of Japan and going to, oh never mind.

4. Brandon in MO (Yunitility Infielder) Posted: December 15, 2007 at 07:09 AM (#2646356)

They're taking our jorbs!!!!1

5. DCW3 Posted: December 15, 2007 at 07:13 AM (#2646359)

The best hitter he faced the last 3 years was Fukudome - he's good but the AL has a few guys who are better.

The broadcasters' description of a Fukudome/Fukumori matchup must sound like the dialogue to a porn movie.

6. CFiJ Posted: December 15, 2007 at 07:15 AM (#2646361)

Kinda like when Steve Phillips got all excited over Tsuyoshi Shinjo for no reason in particular.

Check out Shinjo's salary for 2001. There's your reason.

7. Justin T contains indigenous nudity Posted: December 15, 2007 at 07:16 AM (#2646362)

Shinjo captivated Phillips AND Sabean. There must have been something there.

BWAHAHAHAHA!!!

8. NTNgod Posted: December 15, 2007 at 07:21 AM (#2646365)

The broadcasters' description of a Fukudome/Fukumori matchup must sound like the dialogue to a porn movie.

Given that the Cubs and Rangers both play in the Cactus League, which only has a few teams, both teams are going to face each other several times in the spring.

That potential matchup has a high probability for some FCC fine action :P

9. SouthSideRyan Posted: December 15, 2007 at 08:18 AM (#2646374)

and in '01, he and Desi Relaford seemed like the only guys on the team who could do anything right.

I don't think bringing Shawn Estes to the team was doing things right.

10. David Wrightwing obstructionist Posted: December 15, 2007 at 08:23 PM (#2646746)

With an OF of Benny Agbayani, Jay Payton and Timo Perez, you can start to appreciate the excitement Shinjo brought.

11. Amit Posted: December 17, 2007 at 09:29 PM (#2648268)

I don't think bringing Shawn Estes to the team was doing things right.

COME ON. After he threw behind Clemens, HE TOOK HIM DEEP!! You don't think the Rocket was rattled????

12. KJOK Posted: December 18, 2007 at 09:54 PM (#2649253)

His last 3 years ERA in Japan were:

3.57
2.17!
4.75

5.10 seems a bit harsh....

I see CHONE has him at 5.11, so I certainly in the minority on this one.

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