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Wednesday, December 19, 2007

Rockies - Signed Redman, Kip

Colorado Rockies - Re-signed P Mark Redman to a 1-year contract; signed P Kip Wells to a 1-year contract.

Wells is in the $3 million range. I haven't seen anything for Redman yet, but I'd be shocked if it was more than $750K-$1M or so.

If someone here has Dan O'Dowd's ear, please tell the guy that Josh Fogg's 93 ERA+ the last 2 years and 1 good playoff start aren't really enough to invalidate the time-honored tradition of it not being a good plan to sign veteran starting pitchers that even the Pirates couldn't pretend were any good. The last time the Pirates dumped an established major league starting pitcher for being downright awful and had it come back to haunt them? Mike Bielecki, I believe.

Since some injury issues, the only positive thing Wells has done was to bring a smile to the faces of Cardinals ticketholders at the moment they looked in the newspaper or on the scoreboard and saw that the game they planned on/were attending didn't feature Mike Maroth as the starting pitcher. And Redman's season was worse! It takes a magical kind of suck to get a major league contract after a 1.63 WHIP and a K/9 under 5 at AAA.

Anyway, I have a proposition for O'Dowd. I'll barf on his desk for $100,000 and he'll come out of the bargain no worse off and his organization $3.5-$4 million richer!

2008 ZiPS Projection - Mark Redman
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            W   L   G  GS   IP    H   ER  HR  BB  SO   ERA   ERA+
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Projection  6  10  26  25  145  170   90  18  58  72  5.59    85
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Opt. (15%)  9   9  29  28  165  176   85  15  52  93  4.64   102   
Pes. (15%)  4   9  22  21  116  149   87  20  52  50  6.75    70 
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Top Comps:  Shane Rawley, Dennis Rasmussen
2008 ZiPS Projection - Kip Wells
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            W   L   G  GS   IP    H   ER  HR  BB  SO   ERA   ERA+
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Projection  8  14  30  25  153  167   97  23  84 101  5.71    83 
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Opt. (15%) 11  11  31  26  159  160   80  18  72 109  4.53   104 
Pes. (15%)  5  12  23  19  111  134   82  21  69  65  6.65    71  
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Top Comps:  Steve McCatty, Dan Petry
Dan Szymborski Posted: December 19, 2007 at 11:21 PM | 20 comment(s)
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   1. twentyseven Posted: December 20, 2007 at 01:09 AM (#2650432)
Almost identical projections. Interesting.
   2. Sparkles Peterson Posted: December 20, 2007 at 01:23 AM (#2650438)
Did you mix up their ERAs or their ERA+s?
   3. Dan Szymborski Posted: December 20, 2007 at 01:30 AM (#2650442)
Did you mix up their ERAs or their ERA+s?

Oops! Their ERA+s. I'll fix it in a minute.
   4. Tor Posted: December 20, 2007 at 01:36 AM (#2650446)
The last time the Pirates dumped an established major league starting pitcher for being downright awful and had it come back to haunt them? Mike Bielecki, I believe.


Wakefield?
   5. Dan Szymborski Posted: December 20, 2007 at 01:50 AM (#2650451)
Wakefield wasn't really an established major leaguer at the time - he spent the entire 1994 season pitching terribly for Buffalo.

Even Bielecki as established might be a stretch. Before that, I think you have to go back to Jerry Reuss.
   6. Jim Posted: December 20, 2007 at 02:13 AM (#2650462)
The last time the Pirates dumped an established major league starting pitcher for being downright awful and had it come back to haunt them? Mike Bielecki, I believe.


Oliver Perez? I don't know what you meant by "dumped". If you meant "released" then OP doesn't count, but if you meant "dumped as part of a crappy trade" than OP has already bit them in the arse.

Considering I am an Angel fan and not at all invested in the Mets or Pirates, I am way too excited to see Perez putting it back together. I grab him in my fantasy league every year because I have a soft spot for that guy.
   7. Jim Posted: December 20, 2007 at 02:14 AM (#2650463)
Doh!

than = then.

No edit feature on the TO?

Bummer.
   8. Shock Posted: December 20, 2007 at 02:31 AM (#2650469)
Nothing to say about David Eckstein, Szymbo?

Yeah, me neither.
   9. Excel Hearts Choi Posted: December 20, 2007 at 09:25 AM (#2650522)
Say what you will about Redman, but the Rangers picked him up last year, and had his stashed away in AAA. Brandon McCarthy had big shoes to fill as a lot of Ranger fans really liked Danks. So when McCarthy's season got off to a rough start, he went back to the minors for blisters on his throwing hand (early June). When he came back to the majors, he was a better pitcher until an injury shut him down for the rest of the year. McCarthy credited his improvement due to conversations he had with Redman. Now, this is not to say that signing Redman was a steal for the Rockies; but as a fan of a team who needs to develop pitching, any help is always welcomed. So at the very least, I hope that Redman can help some of the young Rockies pitchers.
   10. rawagman Posted: December 20, 2007 at 09:35 AM (#2650529)
8. Shock Posted: December 20, 2007 at 01:31 AM (#2650469)

Nothing to say about David Eckstein, Szymbo?


Yeah. How could this dreck get attention, but Supoer Dave Ecksbourne to the Jays gets nothing?
   11. Steve Posted: December 20, 2007 at 10:17 AM (#2650553)
I think that you are missing the sublelty in this. The Wells signing makes the Redman look good.
   12. Dan Szymborski Posted: December 20, 2007 at 10:42 AM (#2650570)
Eckstein kinda got buried in the Mitchell Onslaught - I'll write him up now.
   13. ellsbury my heart at wounded knee Posted: December 20, 2007 at 10:49 AM (#2650575)
The last time the Pirates dumped an established major league starting pitcher for being downright awful and had it come back to haunt them? Mike Bielecki, I believe.


Bronson Arroyo?
   14. The Essex Snead Posted: December 20, 2007 at 11:13 AM (#2650589)
Arroyo wasn't established in the slightest, unless 19 mediocre starts spread over 3 years counts. It's only in Boston that he began receiving regular starting reps.
   15. The Essex Snead Posted: December 20, 2007 at 11:14 AM (#2650590)
Watch out for Ryan Vogelsong, though.
   16. Alex Gordon's #1 Fan Posted: December 20, 2007 at 11:28 AM (#2650617)
Those ERAs seem low. These guys are awful.
   17. The District Attorney Posted: December 20, 2007 at 04:13 PM (#2650995)
Rockies - Signed Redman
Whut? Thee Signing
   18. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: December 20, 2007 at 05:46 PM (#2651094)
Watch out for Ryan Vogelsong, though.


Too bad they don't know that in Japan.

Bear with it while they're disputing the call at second base. It gets better.
   19. jwb Posted: December 21, 2007 at 04:29 PM (#2651806)
His glove says "VOGE". Does he have Madonna theme music as he warms up?
   20. 1k5v3L Posted: December 21, 2007 at 05:31 PM (#2651843)
Well, I hear the schools in Colorado are just phenomenal.
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