Baseball for the Thinking Fan

Login | Register | Feedback

btf_logo
You are here > Home > Transaction Oracle > Discussion
Transaction Oracle
— A Timely Look at Transactions as They Happen

Reader Comments and Retorts

Go to end of page

Statements posted here are those of our readers and do not represent the BaseballThinkFactory. Names are provided by the poster and are not verified. We ask that posters follow our submission policy. Please report any inappropriate comments.

Page 1 of 1 pages
   1. Barnaby Jones Posted: May 27, 2009 at 06:41 PM (#3195828)
What I take from this is that Eddie Matthews is awesome. Even though he is a filthy stinking steroid cheat.
   2. Famous Original Joe C Posted: May 27, 2009 at 06:51 PM (#3195848)
What I take from this is that Eddie Matthews is awesome. Even though he is a filthy stinking steroid cheat.

How can we look at Willie McCovey or Mickey Mantle's stats without questioning how they were achieved again?
   3. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: May 27, 2009 at 07:08 PM (#3195878)
There go Dave Kingman's HOF chances.
   4. Random Transaction Generator Posted: May 27, 2009 at 07:21 PM (#3195920)
I'm hoping you submitted this rebuttal to their letters/comments section.
You might as well disembowel him publicly.
   5. Quiet Flows the Don Taussig Avenger (Edmundo) Posted: May 27, 2009 at 07:43 PM (#3195997)
What I take from this is that Eddie Matthews is awesome.
I remember marvelling at his 1958 card -- through 6 seasons / age 25 he had 222 HRs. I remember trying to figure out how to project his and everyone's career totals. After a couple of years of perusing baseball cards, I settled on 3 times career totals at age 27 and 2 times at age 30. By extrapolating out to age 27 (74 more HRs from his average to date), I had Matthews finishing with 888 HRs. He must have dropped off the juice somewhere along the line.
   6. cardsfanboy Posted: May 27, 2009 at 07:51 PM (#3196024)
stuff like this is what I was asking for on the call for help thread. It doesn't have to be a full article, but original content, in response to some balderdash msm claim.
   7. Maholm Shuffle Posted: May 28, 2009 at 12:19 AM (#3196518)
If Sports Illustrated wants to remain relevant, they need more Posnanskis and less Sabinos.


A Szymborski would help a lot too.
   8. Obama Bomaye Posted: May 28, 2009 at 12:47 AM (#3196615)
original content, in response to some balderdash msm claim.

Well often such things are done in the context of a comment in response to said article.
   9. Fancy Pants Handle is the AntAgonizer Posted: May 28, 2009 at 11:30 AM (#3197019)
A Szymborski would help a lot too.

Unspellable last names are the new market inefficiency.
   10. RayDiPerna Posted: May 28, 2009 at 02:03 PM (#3197198)
Good piece. I love pieces like this.
   11. Stevens Posted: May 28, 2009 at 06:58 PM (#3197734)
Unspellable last names are the new market inefficiency.

So 10 million to Jeff Samardzija was the right move!
   12. Repoz Posted: June 02, 2009 at 12:24 PM (#3203005)
Thanks for this, Dan.
   13. Jolly Old St. Neck Wound, Moral Idiot Posted: June 02, 2009 at 12:47 PM (#3203032)
Good compilation, Dan, and it's speaks well of your approach that you began with a question, not an answer.

My favorite example of "taint" is Babe Ruth, who only wound up with a .342 lifetime BA in spite of having only 1664 hits at the time of # 400.
   14. David in Toledo Posted: June 03, 2009 at 04:05 PM (#3205029)
More Posnanskis and FEWER Sabinos (Sabinos are countable).

Babe Ruth wound up with ONLY a .342 lifetime BA. . . (He didn't ONLY wind up; he wound up, he threw, he switched positions, etc., etc.)
   15. Dan Szymborski Posted: June 03, 2009 at 04:13 PM (#3205040)
David, I can understand taking on the role of the grammar police for the article itself, but I don't think comments should be fair game!
   16. Morally Excellent Posted: June 03, 2009 at 04:19 PM (#3205050)
I think his second part was meant to be a joke, though I'm not sure.

Anyway, SI is junk.
   17. Jeff K. Posted: June 04, 2009 at 04:44 AM (#3205974)
Well now, wait a minute. I'm not defending the guy's point, how he went about it, or the validity of the measurement, but I'm not really seeing the great evisceration here. Let's take a look from the bottom up:

Steroid era, accused
Archetypal big slugger (not SE)
Ditto
Schmidt (not SE)
Steroid era, not really accused, but would have been Killebrew 40 years ago
McCovey (not SE)

and then

SE, admitted user
SE, accused, suspected, however you want to phrase it (and however unfair it may be)
Ruth
SE
Mantle
Reggie
SE, "admitted"
SE, Bonds
Mathews
SE
SE, accused
SE, busted
SE, admitted
Mantle

I don't see how this is disproving the guy's point.
   18. Jeff K. Posted: June 04, 2009 at 04:47 AM (#3205976)
What the hell happened there?

SE, admitted user
SE, accused, suspected, however you want to phrase it (and however unfair it may be)
Ruth
SE
Mathews
SE
SE, accused
SE, busted
SE, admitted
Mantle
Jackson
SE, "admitted"
SE, Bonds
   19. Jeff K. Posted: June 04, 2009 at 09:52 PM (#3207007)
Just to note, what I'm saying is that after you get past the top 6 which has three of the all-time archetypes for the category, of the next 13 names, *9* are from a 10-12 year span. On the surface, I don't see this as disproving the notion that this particular stat shows steroid usage.
Page 1 of 1 pages

You must be Registered and Logged In to post comments.

 

 

<< Back to main

Support BBTF

donate

Thanks to
Sheer Tim Foli
for his generous support.

Bookmarks

You must be logged in to view your Bookmarks.

Syndicate

Buy MLB playoff tickets, plus 2011 World Series, 2011 ALCS tickets and NLCS game tickets. We also have Texas Rangers playoff schedule, tickets to Red Sox games and Yankees game tickets. Plus, buy Phillies baseball tickets, Tigers playoff tickets and the biggies like ALDS baseball tickets and 2011 NLDS tickets.

Demarini, Easton and TPX Baseball Bats

 

 

 

AllianceTickets.com has cheap MLB Tickets. Get all your Colorado Rockies Tickets, Seattle Mariners Tickets, San Francisco Giants Tickets and all your favorite baseball tickets here. We also carry cheap Denver Broncos Tickets, Seattle Seahawks Tickets and Denver Nuggets Tickets.

Page rendered in 0.3471 seconds
38 querie(s) executed