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Tuesday, April 03, 2007

Dutton on Defense

Because Bob Dutton (KC Star) is the coolest beat writer in the world, he was kind enough to answer a few questions I had about the Royals’ defense, and some of the recent changes therein.

Q: How does Alex Gordon compare to Mark Teahen at third last year? What have the coaches been working with Gordon the most on?

A: At this point, the general view is Teahen is still the better third baseman. The word on Gordon from scouts is he plays with his legs too close together, which limits range, and “alligators” grounders—meaning he slaps his throwing and glove hands together in a vertical motion. His throws also tend to be a little wild.

All that said, the general view also is these flaws are all fixable, and that he has the potential to be an above-average defensive third baseman.

Q: Speaking of Teahen, how is he handling his new role in right field? Has his shoulder surgery been limiting?

A: Looks like he’s been playing there for years. That’s not to say he won’t make mistakes. He will. But I think he’s already major-league average. I haven’t noticed any limitation from the surgery.

Q: Tony Pena, Jr. had a pretty good defensive (and offensive) day on Opening Day. How is he looking, perhaps in comparison to Angel Berroa? On TV they showed Gil Meche pumping his fist after a fine jump and great throwout from Pena. Does the Pena / Grudzielanek middle infield change the way pitchers approach an at bat?

A: Pena has plus range, especially to his left, and a plus throwing arm. He was a bit shaky in his first few games in Arizona, but that’s probably attributable to two factors: He was nervous coming to a new team, and the infields are rock hard in Arizona, particularly in comparison to Florida.

Those triples on Opening Day aside, Pena is likely to struggle at the plate. I think the Royals would be delighted at .240.

In comparison to Berroa, Pena doesn’t come close to the overall package that Berroa offered in 2003 as the AL Rookie of the Year. Then again, the Royals haven’t seen that Berroa for a few years now. Overall, I’d say Pena is a definite upgrade over what the Royals were likely to get this season from Berroa.

Having Pena and Grud isn’t likely to affect how a pitcher approches a hitter, except in terms, perhaps, of confidence.

Q: Can you talk about the defensive ramifications of the LaRue/Buck and Brown/Gload platoons?

A: Scouts believe Buck has the greater upside, while LaRue is what he is—at the moment, the two are pretty even. LaRue has the reputation of being a superior pitch-caller, but Gil Meche, unprompted, attributed a portion of his success in the opener to Buck.

Brown has a better arm and is probably a little faster, but his reputation as an adventure has some merit. Gload is just a solid pro who will make the plays you expect an outfielder to make.

Garth has been one-uped by Brian Bannister Posted: April 03, 2007 at 06:51 PM | 9 comment(s)
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   1. Garth has been one-uped by Brian Bannister Posted: April 03, 2007 at 07:07 PM (#2323860)
This is not the first time I have emailed Bob Dutton to ask for an answer to some questions I had. And this is not the first time he, a very busy man this time of year, has promptly answered my questions in-depth. I really appreciate his time and answers. We in Kansas City are blessed with great writers and experts generous with their time.
   2. Garth has been one-uped by Brian Bannister Posted: April 03, 2007 at 07:45 PM (#2323883)
The word on Gordon from scouts is he plays with his legs too close together, which limits range, and “alligators” grounders—meaning he slaps his throwing and glove hands together in a vertical motion. His throws also tend to be a little wild.

I won't pretend to be an expert, but didn't George Brett have similar struggles at the beginning of his career? I don't think that AL Gold Glove came naturally to him.
   3. Harold Reynolds: An Erotic Life (AG#1F) Posted: April 03, 2007 at 09:31 PM (#2324013)
Teahen had a really great defensive reputation as a minor leaguer, but I just didn't see it at the big league level. I thought he had pretty poor range and struggled with routine plays from time to time. I think the Fielding Bible also reflected he was a pretty poor defender, although I can't be sure.

I had heard Gordon was just awesome defensively in Wichita, but struggled in spring training.

I would have liked to hear his thoughts on DeJesus. I think the guys is a pretty durn good centerfielder, but with the Royals picking up Joey G and trying Teahen out in CF, I'm getting the impression Dayton disagrees.
   4. Zach Posted: April 03, 2007 at 10:13 PM (#2324082)
Thanks to Garth for putting this article together, and BIG thanks to Dutton for answering the questions so nicely.

Pena is going to bear watching this year. I think ultimately you would like to have a better hitter at shorstop, but the tricky question is when do you make the change? The Royals still have a lot of needs, and if Pena can provide good defense, it might be a while before shortstop is the most pressing need they have.
   5. Mister High Standards Posted: April 04, 2007 at 09:38 AM (#2324350)
Garth is going to turn me into a Royals fan! Bill James couldn't do it... Rob Neyer couldn't do it! Even the great Mike Webber couldn't do it. By Garth here is.
   6. ASmitty Posted: April 04, 2007 at 01:35 PM (#2324602)
Lots of visual scouting and most non-PBP defensive metrics have Teahen as being a plus defender but PBP metrics like Dewan's +/-, ZR, and, I believe, UZR all have him as being varying degrees of terrible.
   7. Joel Zumaya, Guitar Hero (Frent) Posted: April 04, 2007 at 02:11 PM (#2324659)
Actually, what Garth mentioned is what's warming me to the Royals: Namely, that The Star has knowledgeable, friendly and approachable sportswriters. Poz is quickly becoming one of my favorite sportswriters in the nation. There's also Rob & Rany bearing their souls to their witty and stat-filled blog.

Furthermore, with the talent creeping into Kansas City, and with the Wichita Wranglers making their way to my home state, Arkansas, in the next couple of years, I've suddenly been flooded with reasons to be interested in the Royals.
   8. Harold Reynolds: An Erotic Life (AG#1F) Posted: April 04, 2007 at 02:16 PM (#2324666)
Namely, that The Star has knowledgeable, friendly and approachable sportswriters.

And then there's Jason Whitlock.
   9. Zach Posted: April 04, 2007 at 11:06 PM (#2325552)
The Royals broadcasting team is pretty good, too. (In fact, Denny Matthews and Ryan Lefebvre would be interesting targets for a future email conversation.)

I think it must have something to do with guys getting to stay in one role for a while and develop a voice.
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