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Tuesday, August 12, 2008

19-17

What a bizarre game to say the least. Throwing away a 12-2 lead in a matter of a couple of innings was a real sight to behold. It wasn’t all that surprising or upsetting to see newcomer Charlie Zink have a lousy game against a good offense. But watching reliever after reliever come in and get lit up was a bit much. Down 16-14, Boston’s hopes appeared to be fading. But give the team credit for hanging and really beating the heck out of a very capable reliever in Frank Francisco. Youkilis, Ortiz, and Pedroia all had games to remember. They helped turned what could have been the worst game of the season into one that wasn’t horrible, and actually kind of cool. 

Darren Posted: August 12, 2008 at 11:33 PM | 25 comment(s)
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   1. John DiFool2 Posted: August 12, 2008 at 11:50 PM (#2900777)
...if insanity inducing. I hope it will be a long long time before I have to deal with something like that again.
   2. Elevate Phil Coorey Later Posted: August 12, 2008 at 11:54 PM (#2900783)
I'm drained from that - I might skip the game tomorrow and play golf instead - totally drained.

Don't try and enjoy this!
   3. Chip Posted: August 13, 2008 at 01:01 AM (#2900829)
Only the 4th time since 1900 a team has given up 17 runs and won, according to ESPN.
   4. tjm1 Posted: August 13, 2008 at 04:01 AM (#2900868)
Who was kicking field goals for the Sox?


(Sorry - just getting that joke out of the way now).
   5. Epitome Posted: August 13, 2008 at 05:57 AM (#2900873)
Only the Rangers could score 17 runs and still lose. The worst defense in the American league and the worst pitching in baseball, an injury crippled lineup but they can still mash.
   6. There's a chill wind blowing in Misirlou's soul Posted: August 13, 2008 at 08:09 AM (#2900895)
Only the 4th time since 1900 a team has given up 17 runs and won, according to ESPN.


Not true. Here are the games they listed:

'08 Rangers Red Sox 19-17
'08 Marlins Rockies 18-17
'69 Phillies Reds 19-17
'22 Phillies Cubs 26-23

They forgot at least the 23-22 Phils-Cubs game of may 17, 1979. I'm sure there are more.
   7. Chris Dial Posted: August 13, 2008 at 08:26 AM (#2900903)
An AL team maybe?
   8. There's a chill wind blowing in Misirlou's soul Posted: August 13, 2008 at 08:28 AM (#2900904)
Look at ESPN's list. 3 NL only games.
   9. Chris Dial Posted: August 13, 2008 at 08:30 AM (#2900907)
Well, that's dumb. But *is it* the 4th AL game?
   10. plim Posted: August 13, 2008 at 09:13 AM (#2900931)
no mention of papi's 6 first-inning RBIs as a record (or near the record). i wonder what the record is for rbi in the first inning. i'd have to imagine that it'd be near 8, as i can't imagine a guy getting 3 ab, let alone multiple rbi in each of those at bat (3 grand slams in the 1st inning?!)

can pi even search for something like that?
   11. A Surfeit of Peaches Graham (SdeB) Posted: August 13, 2008 at 09:35 AM (#2900944)
Well, Fernando Tatis has the record for most RBIs in a single inning, with 8 (two grand slams). That was the 3rd inning.
   12. plim Posted: August 13, 2008 at 09:59 AM (#2900974)
ok...looks like 6 rbi is close to the record, and it ties a "recent" record:

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/elias?date=20080812

ORTIZ DRIVES IN SIX RUNS IN 1ST INNING
David Ortiz hit a pair of first-inning home runs on Tuesday night. It's been less than two years since Bobby Abreu drove in six runs in the first inning of a 12-4 Yankees win over the Devil Rays (Sept. 12, 2006), but only one other player did so over the previous 50 years. From 1956 to 2005, only Matt Stairs had six RBIs in the first inning of a game (July 5, 1996, A's vs. Angels).

didn't realize abreu just did this =P

and confirmation:
http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/2008/08/more_papi.html
Ortiz's 6 RBIs in the first inning ties an AL record and is a career high for Big Papi.
He just got a little bigger.
   13. Nasty Nate Posted: August 13, 2008 at 10:16 AM (#2900997)
I'm probably over-reading between the lines, but it seemed like Ortiz' enthusiastic celebration around the dugout after Youk's 8th inning homer (which happened after an IBB to Papi) was an expression of "#### yeah, they will still be burnt if they pitch around me, even w/o manny!"
   14. Dave Cyprian Posted: August 13, 2008 at 11:12 AM (#2901076)
Nate (#13) I agree completely. Ortiz looked so excited, like, "Someone else on this team besides me can hit clutch monster bombs! Woohoo!" Thats fairly consistent behavior for the person who had heart palpitations when it became obvious that the Sox would miss the post-season in '06.
   15. tfbg9 Posted: August 13, 2008 at 11:31 AM (#2901112)
Think! Think ! Charlie Zink!
Between their bats yours ball must slink!
Fastball, cutter, kitchen sink-
Far from such off'rings you must shrink,
If its more than coffee you're to drink,
If its more than coffee you're to drink.
   16. tfbg9 Posted: August 13, 2008 at 11:33 AM (#2901116)
can't imagine a guy getting 3 ab


IIRC, Damon got 3 hits in the 1st inning of the 25 run Sox game in June 2003...
   17. Royce Rings Heath's Bell Posted: August 13, 2008 at 04:31 PM (#2901746)
You RC.

This is the game in a nutshell
   18. RB in NYC (Now with Jet Lag!) Posted: August 13, 2008 at 04:46 PM (#2901770)
IIRC, Damon got 3 hits in the 1st inning of the 25 run Sox game in June 2003...
That's correct. I believe Damon actually had 3/4 of the cycle by the end of the first inning, and then didn't manage to get despite coming up like 6 more times.
   19. JoelW Iz in Ur Baseball Posted: August 13, 2008 at 05:19 PM (#2901801)
The irony of that 25 run game is that that game was a win over the World Series champion Florida Marlins.
   20. Golfing Great Mitch Cumstein Posted: August 13, 2008 at 06:13 PM (#2901841)
The BOS-FLA series in 2003 had to have been one of the worst pitched series in all of creation.

The Red Sox win 25-8

The Red Sox lose 10-9 after giving up 4 runs in both the 8th and 9th.

The Red Sox win 11-7, nothing particularly notable.

Total Runs:

Red Sox: 45
Marlins: 25
   21. Joe C isn't Posted: August 14, 2008 at 10:36 AM (#2902815)
Adjusted OPS+
Bradley-TEX 176
Rodriguez-NYY 162
Youkilis-BOS 147
Quentin-CHW 145
Drew-BOS 144

Who knew Youkilis had this in him?
   22. Golfing Great Mitch Cumstein Posted: August 15, 2008 at 11:19 AM (#2904379)
What's "adjusted OPS+"? What other adjustment is made after park and league factors?
   23. kevin Posted: August 15, 2008 at 11:24 AM (#2904382)
I think that's it, Mitch.
   24. Miko Supports Shane's Spam Habit Posted: August 15, 2008 at 09:45 PM (#2905018)
Uh oh, Masarotti to the Globe.
   25. Golfing Great Mitch Cumstein Posted: August 15, 2008 at 11:22 PM (#2905138)
Then "adjusted OPS+" is "OPS+"?
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