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27 Jemile Weeks 2B Miami
29 Reese Havens SS South Carolina
30 Ike Davis 1B Arizona State
31 David Cooper 1B California
34 Dennis Raben OF Miami
PITCHERS:
25 Alex Meyer RHP Greensburg
26 Ryan Perry RHP Arizona
28 Ross Seaton RHP Second Baptist HS, Houston
32 Jake Odorizzi RHP Highland (Ill.) HS
33 Brett Devall LHP Niceville (Fla.) HS
35 Tyson Ross RHP California
EDIT: Ryan Perry started in 6 of 22 games but was not the closer and Tyson Ross started all 12 of his games.
Allan Dykstra, also drafted by the Sox out of HS, I'm sure they'd love to get at 45, but he probably won't be there and I don't see them taking him at 30 (though I'd like it).
For some reason I think the Sox hope Ryan Perry falls, and they move him back to the rotation. Pure speculation.
Ryan Westmoreland, from an RI HS, is someone they've also been rumored with, and someone they could take in rounds 3-4. The scout I've talked to says he reminds him of Darin Erstad (athletic, good eye/bat control, maybe avg power). Another local product, Jason Esposito of Amity CT, is a third basemen slated for Vanderbilt who will take 3rd round or better money to sign, and I could see the Sox nabbing him late and trying to ink him.
I'd like the team to look at some of the college relievers for rounds 3-4 as well, since there's a bunch of good ones and they'll be a better value than normal. Scott Bittle or, preferably, Aaron Weatherford, who has a nasty splitter and mid-90s heat.
I love Bittle too, but for some reason I don't think he's going to be the sleeper he would be 5-10 years ago. He's got a nasty cutter though, which I love.
Zach Putnam is someone the Sox seem to like too. He's an athletic RHP out of The U (of Michigan). He just seems like the type of player the Sox love to pop from the supp to the 2nd round.
From the high school side, Nate mentioned Westmoreland which is a good call. The Sox are hot and heavy after him, but so are some other teams.
Some others to look for are Typer Sample, a tall RHP out of Colorado. One of the Sox roving pitching scouts, Daryl Milne, really helped him develop his game this year.
Matt Marquis, a corner outfielder of the New Jeruse is someone they like too. Theo attended one of his games when he hit a 450-foot HR. There might be some other clubs after him too, however, because apparently he outclassed the field at the Cardinals workout the other day.
Ricky Oropesa is a high-school 3B from California with plus-plus raw power.
In general, I'm not big on these high schoolers, but whatever.
Assuming Havens is gone, who are you hoping for at 30/45?
If so, then David Cooper at 30 and Putnam at 45.
He is and there's a good chance he'll go either first or second.
Hey, this being the mL thread and all: Bowden had a perfecto through 6 tonight. Finished with 6.2 IP, 3 H, 1 ER, 6 K. His ERA is down to 2.12. 68 IP, 42 H, 16 BB, 64 K, 2 HR (!).
Bubba Bell is still raking and Aaron Bates is hitting reasonably well too.
Jonathan Mayo is projecting Lance Lynn at #30. I think that would be an overdraft; he's a good bet to be around at #45 if Boston passes at #30. BA has him all the way down at #83, FWIW. I can't see Boston going for any of the college pitching that's likely to be around at #30; the quality really drops off after the first couple, and there are going to be a lot of similar pitchers still available at #45.
-- MWE
They haven't had much luck with 3B from NE states who're already committed to Vandy.
GW
Who is that?
Pedro Alvarez is from NY and the Sox drafted him out of HS.
BA is saying that the Sox will pass on Reese Havens. He makes it seem like he's not being considered, and points to David Cooper (his projection), Jason Castro, Shooter Hunt, and Bryan Price. I'd be happy with Cooper, and I'll trust the Sox if they want to take Hunt and think they can improve the command. Don't want any part of Castro (whos probably gone anyway) or Price.
NYC isn't in NE, though.
Don't like Bryan Price in round two. I like both Scott Bittle and Aaron Weatherford more, and if they really wanted Price he may have been there in round three. Hopefully they go after some signability guys in rounds 4+.
Round 1s (45) - Bryan Price (PG #28, BA #47)
Round 2 (77) - Derrick Gibson (PG N/A, BA #199)
Round 3 (85) - Stephen Fife (PG #91, BA #57)
Round 3 (108) - Kyle Weiland (PG #49, BA #88)
Round 4 (142) - Pete Hissey (PG #150, BA #136)
Round 5 (172) - Ryan Westmoreland (PG #110, BA #113)
Round 6 (202) - Ryan Lavarnway (PG N/A, BA #186)
All scouting reports were taken from the brilliant PG Crosschecker website.
For a price, of course.
It seems like they have had tons of guys get drafted then their arm goes "BOOM" about the 2nd month of minor league play.
And you're some sort of academic, are you not?
I don't get Bryan Price at all. He's not good enough to pitch his first two years, and his third year he has a 2-1 K/BB ratio as a reliever and he's a sandwich pick?
Call me naive if you must, but I don't have a problem with someone profiting from their own work.
If he's given the choice now, he'll choose college football. If given the choice in 2-3 years, he's probably more likely to choose a switch to pitching than to go to college. And by then his pitching arm will have less mileage on it.
Idiom,
I was thinking the same thing. I think the Sox concern is that he might turn out to be a decent SS but they'd be missing out on a great P.
Darren, he never gets the chance to decline.
When looking at first-round candidates, I ask one question: What is the likelihood that he can develop into an MVP candidate? I want my first-rounder to be one of the best players in baseball. Kelly has a chance to develop that way, more than any other player who was available at that point in the draft. That's why I like the pick.
-- MWE
On the flip side, Kelly would be passing on a career of "great P" money in favor of "decent SS" money. If that's the way it plays out the Red Sox might be able to convince him to switch to pitching.
Maybe Kelly's edict (draft me as P and I'll be a QB) was based on the rationale that many teams' minor-league systems might not be conducive to development of young pitching prospects, while SS would be a more healthy path. If that's the case, Boston might also be able to convince him that they're ahead of the pack in developing young pitching talent.
All that is massive speculation, of course; I'm what-iffing rationales and arguments all over the place. My point is that it's better to get him into the system now and address these things later than it is to get them straightened out now.
Of course, there's always option j.
Top that, NFL draft!
From Boston's perspective, what are the odds they could've landed MLB talent in the 25th round without the signability issues? Every now and then you might find a useful player, but it's pretty unlikely. In my mind it's not like they had a better use for the pick. If he doesn't sign, they get nothing; had they drafted someone else, they'd effectively get nothing.
To me, this is an excellent use of the pick.
Price appears to be the rare Rice pitcher without massive wear on his arm, and the Red Sox continue their strategy of never acquiring college starters with their top picks.
It doesn't seem like losing his future college coach has changed his mind at all
One sleeper to watch that I have heard good things about is 13th rounder P Tyler Wilson, a Georgia HSer going to Kennesaw St.
If the trend of guys not dropping because of signability continues, it makes sense to anticipate the trend and sign these guys now. As a comparison, how much more or less is Inoa looking for as compared to Myers?
2006 draft was pretty heavy on C starters:
#28 Dan Bard
#42 Kris Johnson
#71 Justin Masterson
Although Bard and Masterson may have always profiled better as pro releivers, they were C starters heading into the draft.
Also saw someplace - Goldstein chat? - that Rice pitcher workloads have been much less abusive the last few years. Seems to be a case of the rep persisting beyond the actual problem at this point, but I'm sure it won't go away until a couple hig profile Rice pitchers are successful.
It was the BP/Goldstein draft day mega-chat. After the Sox pick and the comment, someone who was on the Rice Bench wrote in with the defense. Mostly I like the Sox draft, but I'm a little disappointed that they didn't get either Melville or Neito based on where they fell. OTOH given where teams did pop them I think is indicative of teams not letting guys fall too far is their aren't major concerns.
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