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If 197 is true, his act is getting very old.
*sigh*
Those on-again, off-again Jason Bay-to-Tampa Bay talks are back on, according to a source familiar with the discussions. The two sides have been so far apart that it appeared they'd given up on each other as of early Thursday afternoon. But the source said they've closed that gap somewhat and are still talking.
Tampa Bay has hinted its willing to structure a package around pitcher Jeff Niemann and shortstop prospect Reid Brignac, but the Pirates have been seeking one of their elite pitching prospects -- Wade Davis, David Price or Jeremy Hellickson.
Why not just kick in one of your prospects? Seems like the Sox would want to get this done, right?
Yeah, you have to let him make the first "move" after all this. The Sox should go about business as normal from here I think.
He has to be. If this whole thing doesn't turn out, I imagine Manny and the Red Sox will make up like Clinton and Obama. They need each other too much to do anything too drastic, even though the war of words has been a little brutal.
Is Wade Davis really an elite pitching prospect? His peripherals have regressed this year to the point where he doesn't look all that special.
As I said, the Sox can make Manny happy (relatively) by giving him the one thing that's been his end-game goal from the outset of this whole drama: free agency. Waive the option, and the drama goes away. I think the Sox know this, actually, and clearly preferred to be rid of him NOW if they could get an adequate bat to replace him. If they can't, they just go ahead and waive the option and live with him for two more months.
No.
To fat Al, I think this deadline is pretty clearly different from preceding years, in what has been leaked to the press, or said outright, by both Manny and the front office. I don't see a relationship to salvage, and from watching the Sox recently, I think this is affecting the whole team's focus.
I'm with you. The Dodgers getting Manny (for something less than Kemp) would be a great pick-up, I think. The division is there for the taking.
Would the Red Sox do it? Even with all the bad blood, they're still in the middle of a playoff race and that would pretty clearly hurt their chances this year.
(And no, I don't think the Sox FO has handled this well. Far from it.)
Who knows what makes sense at this point. From Boston's perspective, you have to best 2 1st round picks and replace 80-90% of Manny, right? That seems tough, unless you're getting Kemp. But LA can't be that stupid, right? Right?
Pass.
Maybe, but I had the same feeling when they waived him, and look how that turned out.
From trades.mlblogs.com/
What the #### are the Sox going to do?
Finish 2nd and make the Wild Card? I still think they're better than the Yankees, barring Operation Shutdown II: This Time, We're Manny
It's not just Manny - though after a straight-up demand, I worry about his commitment for the next couple months, too - but also the rest of the team, who have been playing like they're waiting for / knew they needed a shakeup and the end of the drama. If there's no shakeup and the drama doesn't stop, I worry about the whole team as well.
That's how to make this right.
I don't know how I feel about that one.
Obviously Manny bears a large percentage of the blame, as an ethical matter, but the organization's job is to win games, not to win the moral reasoning olympics. I see no way that fighting Manny's fire with fire has been, or will be productive. Looks like people got angry and didn't think, or presumed they'd be able to make a trade that wasn't certain. In either case, that's a pretty significant miscalculation.
Obviously, it's possible that Manny will continue being Manny - he's been hitting this last week just fine - and that the rest of the team will be able to bear down now that there's no possibility of a trade. All the team has to do is win and the criticism of the front office dies down. (Not so much with Manny.)
Seriously, thank God I don't get paid by the widget, or I'd have been working for free today.
Let me be the first to blame the evil Lucchino, and note that Theo is a dreamy genius with a pure heart who has a trade that would solve the Israeli-Palestinian conflict if Lucchino would let him, but he can't tell anyone about it.
Casey - good pinch hitter against RHs only, can't play in the field
Cora - lousy
Crisp - good, should be starting more often but then it's Ellsbury, another lefty bat
Part of the problem is they've been forced to go with 12 pitchers but that is a pathetic abomination of a bench for a team with as much payroll flexibility as the Red Sox have. Francona takes a lot of heat for getting outmaneuvered by other managers but he doesn't have the pieces to compete
Cora is the only guy on the bench who needs to be replaced.
Yeah, Cora's lousy in the field lately, but c'mon, he's got a friggin' 372 OBP! That's better than half the starters!
It's good.
For realsies?
Marc Sully has the initial report. Iron Law sez: not Bay, Ethier
I mean, it can't be. Dealing Manny for a guy with a ton of potential but who (a) isn't close to Manny right now, even current and (b) makes the Sox more lefty is just bizarre
Sounds like Theo might've ultimately saved Florida from themselves
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