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Monday, July 17, 2006

Weekly Minor League Thread: All Pedroia all the time

It seems like before a dork has time to even update his spreadsheet, Pedroia is putting up another multi-hit game to improve his numbers. After seeming months of his .250/.350/.350 act, Pedroia’s 2006 stats have actually reached: .311/.389/.435, with 35 BB and 23 K. MCoA has noted in other threads that this translates to something very much like what Loretta is doing for the big league club right now. If there’s any interest in Loretta out there, I hope the Sox can use him to land something they need.

Many of you have posted the splits that Amfox has posted over on SOSH. As is usually the case with his stuff, his split starts with the date that most makes it look like the player has turned some sort of corner. It’s fun stuff, but I don’t find it to be very illuminating. Using minorleaguesplits.com, I’ve compiled my own split for Pedroia in an attempt to account for him missing spring training. My reasoning goes something like this: Pedroia missed all of spring training but then spent some portion of April at extended spring training. Therefore, although Spring training usually provides players with about a month worth of games, I only counting about 1/2 a month of games as Pedroia’s own personal spring training. Since the Wind returned to the PawSox on April 17, I’ve selected May 1 as a convenient start date for his ‘real stats.’ Without further ado, here’s what he’s done since then:

253 AB, 21 2B, 2 3B, 2 HR, 27 BB, 17 K, .324 .403 .447.

Darren Posted: July 17, 2006 at 06:39 PM | 12 comment(s)
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   1. jim in providence Posted: July 17, 2006 at 09:36 PM (#2102817)
Over the weekend, Pedroia had a streak of hits in seven straight at bats. He was asked (by Steve Hyder, I think) if he'd ever had such a streak before and he said (paraphrasing) "Yeah, last year in Portland. I got a hit in nine straight at bats."
   2. OCD SS Posted: July 18, 2006 at 05:37 PM (#2103805)
I think a lot of us expected a lot more from Loretta. It was easy to chalk his '05 up to his thumb injury, but it seems to me that the lower walk and power numbers might indicate a difference in approach rather than age creeping in (although might be a culprit as well).

Who on a contender needs a 2Bman? Looking to the Mets, I think the Sox could unload Loretta for less than the DRays would ask for Lugo. He wouldn't bring much in return (and the Mets don't have much) but I suspect Cora and Pedroia could cover Loretta's production pretty easily.
   3. Darren Posted: July 18, 2006 at 05:50 PM (#2103815)
I expected more. As it is he's got an average bat at 2B with below average d. That's a bad combo.

The problem with the Mets is that they have the same needs we do. What about St. Louis?
   4. PJ Martinez Posted: July 18, 2006 at 05:52 PM (#2103816)
I agree ocd, but if Loretta won't fetch much, he's not worth dealing (though I would guess the Sox might not offer him arbitration, in which case a trade makes that much more sense).

Since this is a ml thread, perhaps I can mention here that Lopez is back down there and Van Buren up (along with Wily Mo). When's the next time we can call up Lopez? Seems like we might have use for a loogy at some point in the near future-- though, with our starters going this way, we need a bunch of guys who can face more than one or two batters at a time.
   5. DCA Posted: July 18, 2006 at 05:54 PM (#2103818)
What about St. Louis?

Luna's doing okay. Also complicating things is that the Royals have either Graffanino or Grudzielanek to spare, both of whom are probably cheaper than Loretta, and they have needs everywhere but 3B.
   6. Josh Posted: July 18, 2006 at 07:41 PM (#2103933)
When's the next time we can call up Lopez?

Ten days from today -- after KC (off day) Seattle and Oakland, but before the LAA series (unless there is an injury, then before).
   7. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: July 18, 2006 at 11:58 PM (#2104268)
I'm not going to propose any trades, because the unknowables there are just staggering. I want the Red Sox to at least make a trade for a 90-95 ERA+ starting pitcher of reasonable durability. I'm concerned that the Sox don't have the minor league pieces to make such a trade, and I wouldn't trade Pedroia or Ellsbury for such a pitcher. I can't quite tell whether I'm cutting off all possibility for a reasonable trade, as it all depends on the market and the individual pitcher.

The possibility of trading Loretta sounds interesting, but it would require a confluence of situations that I don't really love. First, there would need to be a team willing to trade a reasonable SP for Loretta. Second, the Sox would need to be sucking pretty bad. That's the only way to justify trading a solid veteran at the deadline - you're not only trading for an upgrade for a weakness, but you're also shaking up the roster. Do it during a win streak or just a period of general success, and you could really risk screwing up the clubhouse. (The Nomar trade only worked because the team was playing like crap at the time, I think.)

I don't think Pedroia is currently that much better than Loretta, so the Sox aren't in a position where they need to call him up to improve hte roster. But I do think that if the circumstances outlined above arise, I'd like to see Loretta traded.
   8. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: July 19, 2006 at 12:28 AM (#2104315)
Since I can't seem to get to sleep, here are MLEs for the two marginal Sox hitting prospects above A-ball.

Murphy: 265/320/425 (AA: 250/285/375, AAA: 270/350/470)
Spann: 265/320/395

Spann's done a nice job of adding power, but it's come at the cost of a K-rate in the 25% range. That's going to be hard to overcome. He's getting it done right now with a .375 BABIP, and that number well outpaces his previous stats. He needs to cut down the Ks and maintain the power, which is a very tough twofer, but 22-year-olds in AA at least have a mild head start.

Murphy's interesting. It'd sure be nice if he turned into a ballplayer. I'd still trade him if he could fetch anything good.
   9. Nasty Nate Posted: July 20, 2006 at 02:14 PM (#2104922)
wake up sox therapy! the site is back up!

there is the Beckett extension to discuss and cause of the broken Wake-rib to discover!!
   10. ellsbury my heart at wounded knee Posted: July 20, 2006 at 03:21 PM (#2105088)
I like the Beckett deal. With the cost of starting pitching these days, I think the deal agreed upon was probably the best the FO could hope for.

They could have gotten Burnett without having to give up Ramirez and Sanchez, though. Yeah they would have had to pay a lot more, but performance-wise I don't know if there will be a huge difference over the next few years.
   11. Kevin Sweet Child Romine (aco) Posted: July 20, 2006 at 03:41 PM (#2105161)
cause of the broken Wake-rib to discover!!


"We knew he was sore. We thought he slept wrong originally and he may have. When it turned into this, it's hard to tell," said Francona. (emphasis mine)

It seems that the current theory is that Wakefield somehow injured himself in his sleep.
   12. Nasty Nate Posted: July 20, 2006 at 07:44 PM (#2105535)
maybe he dreamt that spiders were attacking him
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