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Coors Field creation myth
Posted: 18 January 2008 11:36 PM   [ Ignore ]

I have a theory that players who have home games at coors field suffer MASSIVE drops in road numbers Examples include Juan Pierre(Gained 50 points on his road average after leaving colorado) Joe Girardi, Ellis Burks, Walt Weiss, Jeff Cirrillo, in fact this last year was an aberration for the team to hit .260 on the road it is usually closer to .245-.250 range.
Eric Young had similar overall numbers with the Cubs as he had with the Rockies but had MUCH better road numbers and most every other example I can find with few exceptions(Castilla, Burnitz) have similar hitting numbers overall but much better road numbers.

The reason I write this is that I have read a lot of people saying Matt Holliday isn’t worth 100 million in a market where JD Drew gets 65. What do you all think???

Posted: 20 January 2008 01:40 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]

Well now the question is do the Col. players have trouble once they are not in Coors Field and I think so Al you see Denver is 1 mile High and it looks like the ball is coming off the top of a monster truck when it leafs the pitchers hand only then you have to try and hit at See level and most guys look like they are Sub Mariners in comparison.  That is why you saw the Rockies do so weall in the Nat. League last year but they could not win in Fenway Park which is built on Land Fill.

Posted: 21 January 2008 03:09 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]

There’s a pretty well-documented “hangover effect” for Rockies hitters.  In short, playing half of one’s games at Coors Field not only results in improved home stats (that is, of course, expected); it also depresses road stats.  What causes this?  Well, nobody really knows.  Some theorize that because pitches don’t break as much at altitude hitters lose their ability to handle “normal” breaking balls.  I tend to think that Coors has traditionally rewarded some “bad habits”—a slight uppercut swing, etc, and that these bad habits tend to depress performance when a player hits the road.

Posted: 23 January 2008 10:22 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]

I have heard a lot of talk about how Matt Holliday and Troy Tulowitzki’s Home/Road split should have removed them from contention for awards but here are some numbers that makes my point that rockies hitters couldn’t play elsewhere
Mike Lansing
1997 Mon. BA.281 Home.297 Road.268
1998 Col. BA.276 Home.326 Road.225 43 point drop
Jeff Cirillo
1999 Mil. BA.326 Home.354 Road.304
2000 Col. BA.326 Home.403 Road.239 65 point drop
Larry Walker
1994 Mon. BA.322 Home.331 Road.314
1995 Col. BA.306 Home.343 Road.268 46 point drop
Eric Young
1996 Col. BA.324 Home.412 Road.219
1997 Col/LAD BA.280 Home.292 Road.270 a 51 point gain
1998 LAD BA.285 Home.314 Road.256 still in NL west
2000 CHC BA.297 Home.294 Road.299 in Brauns division an .80 road gain over EYs last full Colo season
Juan Pierre
2002 Col. BA.287 Home.328 Road.247
2003 Fla. BA.305 Home.318 Road.294 a 46 point gain
Joe Girardi
1995 Col. BA.262 Home.291 Road.228
1996 NYY. BA.294 Home.304 Road.284 a 56 point road gain
Walt Weiss
1997 Col. BA.270 Home.301 Road.235
1998 Atl. BA.280 Home.254 Road.319 a 84 point road gain

If this was a one time thing I would think it didn’t mean much but it seems that with very few exceptions players that leave Colorado have lower home but much higher road numbers making your point very well