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Posted: 02 August 2006 04:10 PM   [ Ignore ]
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Was wondering if anyone had a list [or even if it has ever happened…] of cases where a batter hit a home run off a pitcher who wasn’t yet born when the batter debuted in MLB.

I think the closest Barry Bonds came to this [so far] was his homer off Felix Hernandez on 16 June of this year: link. Hernandez was 52 days old when Bonds debuted on May 30, 1986.

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Posted: 02 August 2006 07:50 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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David Clyde was born on 4/22/55

Harmon Killebrew, who made his big league debut on 6/23/54, homered off Clyde on 9/12/73

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Let’s play two!

Posted: 02 August 2006 09:06 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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I’d start here with the list of oldest players to HR.

I know Julio Franco set the record this year, but he hit it off of Scott Linebrink, who was born in 1976.

Posted: 02 August 2006 10:01 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]

The closest I can find for Franco is a homer he hit off Chad Cordero. But Cordero was born 36 days before Franco’s major league debut.

Posted: 07 August 2006 02:28 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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Found one!

Carlton Fisk [debut September 18, 1969] off Todd Van Poppel [born December 9, 1971]
http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/B09110OAK1991.htm

Fisk’s last double-digit HR year; Van Poppel’s MLB debut and only appearance of ‘91.

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Life’s easy—a quirk of matter; nature’s way of keeping meat fresh. - The 9th Doctor

You come at me one-on-one, you better come with a lot, Jack. - B.L. Bonds

Get some. - Lt. Tom Drew

Posted: 07 August 2006 09:15 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]

Well, if you had to guess, you just might pick this pair.

Pick a batter who was in the bigs really early and had a long career, a bonus baby maybe—Al Kaline.  Add 20 years and think about who was a kid pitcher who was also up early—Frank Tanana.

Kaline’s first game: 6/25/53
8 days later Tanana’s born:  7/3/53
Twenty-one years later they meet:  8/28/74

I’d bet that Mel Ott took a young’un deep during the War.  With not very long odds, I bet it occured more than once.

Posted: 08 August 2006 07:10 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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The efficient way to do it is to write something to parse the Retrosheet Event Logs. But that would deprive me of the fun of discovering baseball names I hadn’t thought about in years.

Edit: Said parsing program is now mostly done. May have time to work on it more tomorrow or on the weekend.

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Life’s easy—a quirk of matter; nature’s way of keeping meat fresh. - The 9th Doctor

You come at me one-on-one, you better come with a lot, Jack. - B.L. Bonds

Get some. - Lt. Tom Drew

Posted: 09 August 2006 07:00 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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Criminy… So far it looks like Fisk was the only player to do this between 1985 and 2001, based on the Retrosheet event files that are available as of today.

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Life’s easy—a quirk of matter; nature’s way of keeping meat fresh. - The 9th Doctor

You come at me one-on-one, you better come with a lot, Jack. - B.L. Bonds

Get some. - Lt. Tom Drew

Posted: 09 August 2006 12:28 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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Here’s one of those referenced above.

Al Kaline [debut June 25, 1953] off Frank Tanana [born September 9, 1973]
http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/B08280DET1974.htm

Kaline led off the bottom of the ninth inning with his home run and gave the Tigers a 2-1 victory. He would hit 3 more homers in 31 games (all starts) before retiring at the end of the ‘74 season.

Tanana went 8 innings (plus one batter) in the loss and saw his record drop to 9-16 on the year. Mickey Lolich threw a complete game and scattered 6 hits for the win.

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Life’s easy—a quirk of matter; nature’s way of keeping meat fresh. - The 9th Doctor

You come at me one-on-one, you better come with a lot, Jack. - B.L. Bonds

Get some. - Lt. Tom Drew

Posted: 09 August 2006 02:42 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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Turning the question around, here are some homers by players not yet born when the pitcher debuted in MLB. This covers years 1973-2004.

07/13/1986 - Ruben Sierra off Phil Niekro
09/13/1986 - Jose Canseco off Phil Niekro
05/31/1987 - Mark McGwire off Tommy John
05/31/1987 - Mark McGwire off Tommy John*
07/05/1988 - Ruben Sierra off Tommy John
09/19/1990 - Ken Griffey, Jr. off Nolan Ryan
06/22/1990 - Ken Griffey, Jr. off Nolan Ryan
04/26/1991 - Carlos Baserga off Nolan Ryan
07/28/1991 - Travis Fryman off Nolan Ryan
05/26/1992 - Ivan Rodriguez off Charlie Hough
08/27/1992 - Kevin Koslofski off Nolan Ryan**
06/22/2002 - Vernon Wells off Mike Morgan

* - Not a mistake; Big Mac got him twice on the same day.
** - 5 times might just be a record for these chronological indignities.

Edit:

Looks like there’s just five more in the Retrosheet Event Files which go back [incompletely] to 1957.

08/21/1962 - Boog Powell off Early Wynn
09/28/1962 - Joe Pepitone off Early Wynn
06/21/1964 - Rusty Staub off Warren Spahn
04/30/1965 - Tony Perez off Warren Spahn
08/31/1965 - Alex Johnson off Warren Spahn

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Life’s easy—a quirk of matter; nature’s way of keeping meat fresh. - The 9th Doctor

You come at me one-on-one, you better come with a lot, Jack. - B.L. Bonds

Get some. - Lt. Tom Drew

Posted: 09 August 2006 04:07 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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44magnum is right in his post. What is news is that Killebrew actually victimized Clyde TWICE; once in ‘73 and again in ‘74.

http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/B09120MIN1973.htm

Killebrew’s homer was the only run Clyde gave up, but he was pulled after 2 1/3 innings with runners first and third, no outs and Killebrew coming to bat again.

This followed 4 prior starts where Clyde lasted only 9 innings TOTAL while yielding 20 runs (all earned) on 19 hits and 12 walks with 11 strike-outs. Guess Whitey Herzog had seen enough…

http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/B05240MIN1974.htm

Again Killebrew got to Clyde in the third inning and although he didn’t chase him, Clyde lasted only one more batter (Bobby Darwin drew a walk).

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Life’s easy—a quirk of matter; nature’s way of keeping meat fresh. - The 9th Doctor

You come at me one-on-one, you better come with a lot, Jack. - B.L. Bonds

Get some. - Lt. Tom Drew

   
 
 
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