BBTF's Game Chatter Discussion :: RedSox (46-34) @ Astros (29-53), Friday, July 1, 2011, 8:05pm

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1. tfbg9 Posted: July 01, 2011 at 07:35 PM (#3867279)

Tim Wakefield (44, RHP, 4-3, 4.54)

Don't even bother watching. For surely, a loss will result.

2. Benji Gil Gamesh Rises Posted: July 02, 2011 at 12:20 AM (#3867486)

Don't even bother watching. For surely, a loss will result.

You mean if I watch they'll lose?

3. Textbook Editor Posted: July 02, 2011 at 12:24 AM (#3867488)

I get that if I watch, I will affect the outcome... but if I don't watch will someone else watching affect the outcome?

4. FancyPantsHandle glistening with foreign substance Posted: July 02, 2011 at 12:38 AM (#3867493)

So, if we both watch, is that like a double negative type deal?

5. Benji Gil Gamesh Rises Posted: July 02, 2011 at 12:45 AM (#3867496)

When that line drive was in the air, I briefly stopped watching, and he didn't score. But unfortunately I paid attention during the bunt.

6. Benji Gil Gamesh Rises Posted: July 02, 2011 at 12:45 AM (#3867497)

Fans are so ####### stupid.

7. Benji Gil Gamesh Rises Posted: July 02, 2011 at 12:47 AM (#3867499)

I mean I'm grateful, but they should toss his ass.

8. plink Posted: July 02, 2011 at 01:11 AM (#3867522)

Is Laz Diaz's strike zone especially wide tonight? Very hard to tell from the Houston camera angles.

9. FancyPantsHandle glistening with foreign substance Posted: July 02, 2011 at 01:11 AM (#3867523)

Apparently, the only fun I will get from this game, is when KM shows up to defend Wake's "pitching" "performance"...

10. FancyPantsHandle glistening with foreign substance Posted: July 02, 2011 at 01:13 AM (#3867525)

Is Laz Diaz's strike zone especially wide tonight?

I wouldn't call it wide. More like undefined. He's called wide pitches strikes, and pitches right down the middle balls. All over the place...

11. Chip Posted: July 02, 2011 at 01:38 AM (#3867561)

This offense is an utter disaster right now. Every single pitcher they've faced has looked like Pedro in his prime on this road trip.

12. Textbook Editor Posted: July 02, 2011 at 02:07 AM (#3867581)

[holding breath]

13. plink Posted: July 02, 2011 at 02:08 AM (#3867584)

It's always a pleasant surprise when Darnell McDonald, PH, gets on base.

14. Textbook Editor Posted: July 02, 2011 at 02:09 AM (#3867585)

They have to put a hurting on the Astros here, a 10-spot, something to throw down for the rest of the series.

No pressure, of course.

15. Textbook Editor Posted: July 02, 2011 at 02:10 AM (#3867586)

No GIDP No GIDP No GIDP...

16. Textbook Editor Posted: July 02, 2011 at 02:12 AM (#3867587)

OK, laser show. Show us your lasers.

17. Textbook Editor Posted: July 02, 2011 at 02:14 AM (#3867591)

Man it does look like it's a tight zone.

18. Textbook Editor Posted: July 02, 2011 at 02:15 AM (#3867592)

Random strike called after 2 balls were right at the same spot. Brilliant umping.

19. Benji Gil Gamesh Rises Posted: July 02, 2011 at 02:16 AM (#3867593)

Pedroia screaming back at the ump while going down the line is both deeply stupid, and completely awesome.

20. Textbook Editor Posted: July 02, 2011 at 02:16 AM (#3867594)

MORE RUNS PLEASE

21. Benji Gil Gamesh Rises Posted: July 02, 2011 at 02:16 AM (#3867595)

#### YEAH!!!

22. plink Posted: July 02, 2011 at 02:17 AM (#3867597)

Hey, look! An offense!

23. Textbook Editor Posted: July 02, 2011 at 02:17 AM (#3867598)

MORE MORE MORE MORE MORE

24. Textbook Editor Posted: July 02, 2011 at 02:18 AM (#3867600)

You could flip coins on these strike/ball calls.

25. Textbook Editor Posted: July 02, 2011 at 02:24 AM (#3867605)

Serious question: Could they perhaps move Drew at the deadline and just hand the RF job to Reddick? If they ate salary, could they get anything of value?

When Crawford comes back, they're going to have a heck of a situation on their hands, and not much time to sort it out. Personally, I think Reddick's turned a corner. He won't bat .425 the rest of the year, of course, but I think he'd be more than serviceable.

26. Textbook Editor Posted: July 02, 2011 at 02:24 AM (#3867606)

I'd prefer Aceves here, I think.

27. Benji Gil Gamesh Rises Posted: July 02, 2011 at 02:28 AM (#3867610)

TE, they would definitely have to eat salary, but it's hard to imagine who is going to see Drew as a piece they need right now other than as a bench bat and defensive replacement.

28. Textbook Editor Posted: July 02, 2011 at 02:36 AM (#3867619)

#27--Yeah, I was thinking the same thing... I was trying to picture who needed a LHB really bad and couldn't really think of anyone. I mean, I suppose he might be an upgrade for some NL teams currently in the WC hunt (and cheap if they ate salary), but the Red Sox are pretty conservative, I guess when it comes to things like this (one reason why the Cameron move really surprised me; I figured they'd DFA McDonald instead and fully expected him to be wearing a Phillies uniform by the weekend).

I suppose the Red Sox see the salary as sunk anyway, so why not keep Drew on as the 4th OF, especially because he gives you some OBP and isn't the worst insurance should Reddick get hurt/tank it.

What I will not accept is Reddick getting cast back down to Pawtucket as the roster move when Crawford comes off the DL. I accept they don't want to DFA McDonald (who's out of options and sure to be picked up), but I really hope it's Navarro or Sutton who goes when Crawford comes off the DL.

29. Textbook Editor Posted: July 02, 2011 at 02:39 AM (#3867624)

I'll be honest: if, before the year, you told me Salty would be .250/.320, I would have be thrilled. I'm not sure if this is a scouting success or a stats success, but I have to give credit: they saw what almost no one else did when it comes to the Varitek/Salty job share, and so far it has worked out.

30. Textbook Editor Posted: July 02, 2011 at 02:42 AM (#3867628)

Half-serious question: Should they get to the WS, what on earth do they do with Papi for the 3-4 games in the NL park?

In the past, Youk's versatility has helped with this issue--he just moved from 1B to 3B. But Gonzalez obviously can't be moved so easily... Do they try Ortiz at 1B/Gonzalez in RF for 2 of the 3 or 4 games? Does it depend on where they are in the series?

31. Textbook Editor Posted: July 02, 2011 at 02:43 AM (#3867632)

Wow. McDonald causes a pitching change. This is... unexpected.

32. Benji Gil Gamesh Rises Posted: July 02, 2011 at 02:43 AM (#3867636)

Reddick has been *so* good that I expect they'll have to move someone else -- when is Crawford due to come back?

33. Textbook Editor Posted: July 02, 2011 at 02:47 AM (#3867642)

A walk! A palpable walk!

34. Textbook Editor Posted: July 02, 2011 at 02:48 AM (#3867643)

#32--He's eligible to come off Sunday but apparently won't... read that somewhere. Not sure what that means; maybe they're hoping to steal him time until past the AS break?

35. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: July 02, 2011 at 02:48 AM (#3867645)

Thanks Scoots.

36. Benji Gil Gamesh Rises Posted: July 02, 2011 at 02:48 AM (#3867646)

#29, absolutely.

#30...uhhhh....I'll worry about that much later.

37. Textbook Editor Posted: July 02, 2011 at 02:49 AM (#3867647)

ARGH! WHY MUST THEY CHANNEL JIM RICE THIS YEAR??

38. Textbook Editor Posted: July 02, 2011 at 02:57 AM (#3867655)

Re: #30--it's a huge conundrum. The situation would be way worse than the "Gee, do we bench Millar?" questions it raised in 2004. I'm genuinely interested in what people think... I half-suspect the sole reason they've tried it here in these games (apparently they may try it again tomorrow) is to see if it's an abject disaster ahead of the possible WS appearance.

39. Textbook Editor Posted: July 02, 2011 at 02:57 AM (#3867656)

I [heart] Bard.

40. Benji Gil Gamesh Rises Posted: July 02, 2011 at 03:00 AM (#3867658)

That Pedroia look-back is an animated gif waiting to happen.

41. Benji Gil Gamesh Rises Posted: July 02, 2011 at 03:02 AM (#3867661)

TE, what's a bit scary is that [knock wood] assuming good health, I don't really see another option other than what they've been doing here. You definitely sit Papi against a good lefty starter, make sure you get him into a highly leveraged PH situation, and yeah you probably hold your breath and pick a spot (a Buchholz start?) to get away with AGon in right one game.

42. Textbook Editor Posted: July 02, 2011 at 03:16 AM (#3867667)

#41--You're probably right. But if it was 4 games in an NL park, I see them trying the Gonzalez in RF thing for at least 2 games, unless the RF is cavernous, like in Coors. If it had tricky angles (like SF), maybe they'd shy away from it... hard to know.

43. Benji Gil Gamesh Rises Posted: July 02, 2011 at 03:22 AM (#3867671)

But if it was 4 games in an NL park,

Now that's just crazy talk.

44. Curse of the Graffanino (dfan) Posted: July 02, 2011 at 03:25 AM (#3867674)

Don't even bother watching. For surely, a loss will result.

Red Sox record in games that Wakefield has started, since 1995: 18-9, 18-14, 15-14, 22-11, 7-10, 8-9, 6-11, 11-4, 16-17, 5-4, 18-14, 11-12, 19-12, 15-15, 14-7, 6-13, 6-4.

Total: 215-181.

45. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: July 02, 2011 at 03:38 AM (#3867681)

All 215 wins were low leverage situations, he's a choker.

46. FancyPantsHandle glistening with foreign substance Posted: July 02, 2011 at 04:01 AM (#3867689)

Don't even bother watching. For surely, a loss will result.

For the record, I stopped watching at 5-1. Correlation? Causation? I'll let you guys decide...

47. tfbg9 Posted: July 02, 2011 at 05:08 AM (#3867699)

He didn't walk anybody, km.

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