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RedSox (70-43) @ Twins (51-63), Monday, August 8, 2011, 7:10pm

BOS: Tim Wakefield (44, RHP, 6-4, 4.99)
MIN: Scott Baker (29, RHP, 8-6, 3.01)

The Primer Chimp Posted: August 08, 2011 at 01:00 PM | 158 comment(s)
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1. tfbg9 Posted: August 08, 2011 at 05:44 PM (#3895483)

Tim Wakefield (44, RHP, 6-4, 4.99)

The above means we lose. Period.

2. ray james Posted: August 08, 2011 at 11:09 PM (#3895729)

Wake tries again for number 200.

I was looking at Hoyt Wilhelm's numbers today. Amazingly, he played 21 seasons and started as a 29 yr old rookie.

And put up a career 147 ERA+.

An awful lot of people had to feel pretty foolish underestimating him.

3. Gamingboy Posted: August 08, 2011 at 11:13 PM (#3895732)

Jim Thome seems like the kind of person who could conceivably hit two dingers of Wakefield tonight to reach 600.

4. ray james Posted: August 08, 2011 at 11:28 PM (#3895747)

This ump's zone is huge.

5. Dan Posted: August 08, 2011 at 11:28 PM (#3895748)

This umpire is calling a ####### absurdly huge strike zone.

6. Gamingboy Posted: August 08, 2011 at 11:34 PM (#3895753)

Those plays are weird.

7. ray james Posted: August 08, 2011 at 11:35 PM (#3895754)

Crawford?

8. ray james Posted: August 08, 2011 at 11:35 PM (#3895755)

Oh ####. And Salty is hurt.

9. plink Posted: August 08, 2011 at 11:36 PM (#3895757)

Eh, should have been safe anyway.

10. Dan Posted: August 08, 2011 at 11:36 PM (#3895758)

Great defense, boys.

11. Gamingboy Posted: August 08, 2011 at 11:36 PM (#3895759)

This game is already more exciting than the last 5 or 6 Twins games.

12. ray james Posted: August 08, 2011 at 11:37 PM (#3895760)

And now he stops calling strikes when Wake pitches.

13. Dale Sams Posted: August 08, 2011 at 11:37 PM (#3895761)

That ball came out cause Salty felt the need to fling the glove up and show the ump the ball

14. ray james Posted: August 08, 2011 at 11:38 PM (#3895762)

This is getting ugly already.

15. Gamingboy Posted: August 08, 2011 at 11:40 PM (#3895764)

If it's high/ let it fly. If it's low/ let it go. And, y'know, hope that the opposing team forgets how to field.

16. ray james Posted: August 08, 2011 at 11:41 PM (#3895765)

I can tell already this isn't Wake's night.

17. ray james Posted: August 08, 2011 at 11:41 PM (#3895767)

They could be out of the inning now without the Twins having scored.

18. Gamingboy Posted: August 08, 2011 at 11:43 PM (#3895769)

I repeat number 15.

19. ray james Posted: August 08, 2011 at 11:44 PM (#3895770)

Tough to give Saltalamacchia an error and not give Crawford one.

20. Dan Posted: August 08, 2011 at 11:44 PM (#3895771)

I cannot stand watching Wakefield pitch. Yeah, the defense has sucked, but he's giving up rockets.

21. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: August 08, 2011 at 11:50 PM (#3895772)

Anyone else having problems with the audio skipping?

22. Gamingboy Posted: August 08, 2011 at 11:53 PM (#3895775)

No.

23. Hugh Jorgan Posted: August 09, 2011 at 12:09 AM (#3895785)

Is there where I come to resume the "Wakefield is awesome" discussion?

Teddy, I agree with your #1 post. Unless we can squeak out a 9-7 win here...

24. ray james Posted: August 09, 2011 at 12:09 AM (#3895787)

Wakefield is getting blowtorched.

We might have a similar situation that the Yankees have with Posada.

25. Dan Posted: August 09, 2011 at 12:10 AM (#3895788)

Even the outs are hit on the screws.

26. tfbg9 Posted: August 09, 2011 at 12:26 AM (#3895795)

Wakefield is old, and now simply sucks.
He used to be mediocre.

27. ray james Posted: August 09, 2011 at 12:28 AM (#3895797)

Crawford finally seems to be settling in.

28. Dan Posted: August 09, 2011 at 12:28 AM (#3895798)

That was fun. Do that more, Carl.

29. ray james Posted: August 09, 2011 at 12:29 AM (#3895800)

God, this strikezone is huge. That pitch was both high and outside by 4 inches.

30. Dan Posted: August 09, 2011 at 12:29 AM (#3895801)

Not a good 3-1 swing from Gonzo.

31. Dan Posted: August 09, 2011 at 12:32 AM (#3895802)

Gonzalez chased several ball 4s. But it's hard to blame him with the way this umpire has been calling everything strikes.

32. Dan Posted: August 09, 2011 at 12:33 AM (#3895804)

Oh my ####### god. That's one of the deepest balls hit at this park.

33. ray james Posted: August 09, 2011 at 12:34 AM (#3895805)

Thataboy, papi.

We have a game again.

34. Gamingboy Posted: August 09, 2011 at 12:34 AM (#3895806)

Okay, so the Twins will do their best to blow it. Again.

35. Dan Posted: August 09, 2011 at 12:35 AM (#3895808)

Salty power is outrageous when he gets into one.

36. plink Posted: August 09, 2011 at 12:35 AM (#3895809)

Hooray, Sox offense!

37. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: August 09, 2011 at 12:36 AM (#3895811)

Why are Ron Gardenhire and Joe Mauer talking to the batboy on the mound? Where's the pitcher?

38. Dan Posted: August 09, 2011 at 12:37 AM (#3895812)

Where's MCoA now with his "Salty's just not a very good hitter"? :D

39. Hugh Jorgan Posted: August 09, 2011 at 12:40 AM (#3895816)

And we thought this team was good with only the top 5 guys hitting. With Salty, Crawford and Scutaro! all hitting, this could get scary good.

40. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: August 09, 2011 at 12:41 AM (#3895818)

That was some epic helmet hair on Mauer.

41. ray james Posted: August 09, 2011 at 12:41 AM (#3895821)

Wow. That was a shot by Salty.

Looks like Baker has turned back into a pumpkin this inning.

42. Phil Coorey. Posted: August 09, 2011 at 12:42 AM (#3895822)

Been watching this on ESPN while playing 'fairies' with the twins - and yep - the strike zone is insane.

Great little comeback though

43. Phil Coorey. Posted: August 09, 2011 at 12:43 AM (#3895824)

Wakefield has to go after token win 200 - though - I simply don't have the energy to say how little I enjoy watching pitch as I have harped on about it for 8-9 years now

44. Phil Coorey. Posted: August 09, 2011 at 12:45 AM (#3895827)

token is a harsh word - he just needs to go after 200

45. Dan Posted: August 09, 2011 at 12:48 AM (#3895830)

This better be Wkaefield's last inning.

46. Dan Posted: August 09, 2011 at 12:49 AM (#3895833)

He has an ERA over 5.00 even though a ridiculous number of his runs are called "unearned". He is not underrated, Tim Kurkjian.

47. Gamingboy Posted: August 09, 2011 at 12:49 AM (#3895834)

There is a bias against Knuckleballers.

48. ray james Posted: August 09, 2011 at 12:52 AM (#3895837)

Years ago he was underrated. Now he isn't. Now he's an RLP.

49. ray james Posted: August 09, 2011 at 12:53 AM (#3895843)

Ex-Sox farmhand in the game.

50. ray james Posted: August 09, 2011 at 12:54 AM (#3895844)

Jeez, if Crawford and Scutaro gets hot, this offense will be unbeatable.

51. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: August 09, 2011 at 12:59 AM (#3895850)

Are these managers trying to out-stupid each other? The sacrifice was stupid and this IBB is stupid.

52. Dan Posted: August 09, 2011 at 12:59 AM (#3895851)

Walking Gonzalez to face Pedroia? Alright guys. You enjoy that one.

53. plink Posted: August 09, 2011 at 12:59 AM (#3895852)

How much must Pedroia love the IBB to Gonzalez?

54. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: August 09, 2011 at 01:00 AM (#3895853)

Seriously though...am I just imagining it, or has there been a huge uptick in idiotic IBBs this season?

55. ray james Posted: August 09, 2011 at 01:00 AM (#3895854)

Don't really like the bunt there. Crawford is swinging the bat well and he's hard to double up anyway.

56. Gamingboy Posted: August 09, 2011 at 01:01 AM (#3895855)

Gardenhire really doesn't give a crap anymore and will try anything that comes to mind for the rest of the season.

57. Joe Bivens, Minor Genius Posted: August 09, 2011 at 01:02 AM (#3895856)

It looks like the Red Sox catching is pretty decent after all. Saltalamacchia proves, once again, that youneverknow.

58. FancyPantsHandle glistening with foreign substance Posted: August 09, 2011 at 01:02 AM (#3895858)

Years ago he was underrated. Now he isn't. Now he's an RLP.

Don't you mean RIP?

59. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: August 09, 2011 at 01:05 AM (#3895861)

######## BULLSHIT ########

HE WAS ####### SAFE

AND EVEN WORSE THAN NOT SCORING, NOW THE ####### STUPID IBB LOOKS SMART

60. Dan Posted: August 09, 2011 at 01:05 AM (#3895862)

God I ####### hate when the dumb IBBs pay off.

61. Gamingboy Posted: August 09, 2011 at 01:05 AM (#3895863)

Okay, maybe Gardenhire is a genius.

62. plink Posted: August 09, 2011 at 01:05 AM (#3895864)

Ouch.

63. Phil Coorey. Posted: August 09, 2011 at 01:05 AM (#3895865)

damn

64. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: August 09, 2011 at 01:07 AM (#3895868)

God I ####### hate when the dumb IBBs pay off.

Is it weird that I'm more annoyed about that than the Red Sox not scoring? Or is that a function of the Red Sox not being in any danger of missing the playoffs?

65. Phil Coorey. Posted: August 09, 2011 at 01:07 AM (#3895869)

did i see wakefield is coming back out? ingenious

66. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: August 09, 2011 at 01:08 AM (#3895870)

Holy #### Wakefield is out there again. Zero chance the Twins don't score this inning.

67. Phil Coorey. Posted: August 09, 2011 at 01:08 AM (#3895871)

#### - only 85 pitches - feels like a million

68. plink Posted: August 09, 2011 at 01:08 AM (#3895872)

If Pedroia hadn't lunged he would've been safe.

69. Dan Posted: August 09, 2011 at 01:09 AM (#3895874)

Another line drive out. Masterful pitching to make it be right at the third baseman.

70. ray james Posted: August 09, 2011 at 01:09 AM (#3895875)

Is it weird that I'm more annoyed about that than the Red Sox not scoring?

Not weird. Just priorities a little out of whack.

71. Hugh Jorgan Posted: August 09, 2011 at 01:09 AM (#3895876)

God I ####### hate when the dumb IBBs pay off.

Agree, but the really dumb play was the sacrifice. You essentially took the bat out of not only Crawfords hands, but Gonzales's hands.

72. Steve Balboni's Personal Trainer Posted: August 09, 2011 at 01:09 AM (#3895877)

Why on Earth is Wakefield out for the 7th?! The Sox are very fortunate that they are in this game, given that Wake didn't pitch too well. Are they so worried about burning out their bullpen that they are willing to take a chance on giving up a bomb in the 7th?

73. Dan Posted: August 09, 2011 at 01:10 AM (#3895879)

Pull him.

74. ray james Posted: August 09, 2011 at 01:11 AM (#3895880)

OK, Tito. Now take him out. Don't allow the 2-run bomb.

75. Steve Balboni's Personal Trainer Posted: August 09, 2011 at 01:11 AM (#3895881)

Two friggin' line drives. One right at somebody, one right over somebody. Take out Wakefield!

76. Phil Coorey. Posted: August 09, 2011 at 01:11 AM (#3895882)

I feel the same - i can't remember the last time I pulled out a #### me sideways for starters

77. ray james Posted: August 09, 2011 at 01:11 AM (#3895883)

Is anyone warming?

78. Steve Balboni's Personal Trainer Posted: August 09, 2011 at 01:12 AM (#3895884)

Bring in Dan Wheeler! WTF?!

79. Dan Posted: August 09, 2011 at 01:12 AM (#3895885)

Agree, but the really dumb play was the sacrifice. You essentially took the bat out of not only Crawfords hands, but Gonzales's hands.

Call me crazy, but I liked the bunt. You guarantee that Gonzalez doesn't have a shot to GIDP, which has basically been a lock all season.

80. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: August 09, 2011 at 01:12 AM (#3895886)

The part that I don't understand about that last inning is that both managers were acting like it was 1-1 in the 9th inning when it was actually 5-5 in the 7th. Does anyone think only one more run is going to decide this game? Yeah, it's possible, but it's not likely.

81. ray james Posted: August 09, 2011 at 01:14 AM (#3895888)

The one run allows them to plug in their late inning relief pitcher sequence.

82. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: August 09, 2011 at 01:14 AM (#3895889)

Pretty clearly out on that pickoff.

83. Hugh Jorgan Posted: August 09, 2011 at 01:15 AM (#3895891)

You guarantee that Gonzalez doesn't have a shot to GIDP, which has basically been a lock all season

Well I wouldn't exactly say it's a gurantee that he'll GIDP, I mean the dude does have on OBP of .400 and 90 or so rbi's, so he's doing something right once in awhile with RISP....

84. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: August 09, 2011 at 01:16 AM (#3895892)

The one run allows them to plug in their late inning relief pitcher sequence.

They could plug in their relievers anyway. No one has a gun to Tito's head forcing him to keep Wakefield in. (I think.)

85. Dan Posted: August 09, 2011 at 01:17 AM (#3895894)

Well I wouldn't exactly say it's a gurantee that he'll GIDP, I mean the dude does have on OBP of .400 and 90 or so rbi's, so he's doing something right once in awhile with RISP....

And he has 23 or 24 GIDP. And lately has been hitting the ball on the ground a TON.

Salty cannon!

86. Phil Coorey. Posted: August 09, 2011 at 01:17 AM (#3895895)

Salty is the story of the season for me besides Ellsbury - great throw

87. ray james Posted: August 09, 2011 at 01:17 AM (#3895896)

Salty is throwing the ball remarkably well. I think that's the fourth baserunner he's thrown out in the last week.

88. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: August 09, 2011 at 01:18 AM (#3895898)

The thing I didn't like about the bunt was that they left it on at 3-1. You gotta let Crawford swing at his pitch there.

89. Dan Posted: August 09, 2011 at 01:20 AM (#3895899)

The thing I didn't like about the bunt was that they left it on at 3-1. You gotta let Crawford swing at his pitch there.

I can buy that argument, and that's a stance I was thinking about taking. I definitely liked putting the bunt on, but yeah, once the count went 3-0 I may have let Crawford swing away.

90. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: August 09, 2011 at 01:20 AM (#3895900)

I've heard the NESN and ESPN announcers mention that Gary Tuck has helped Salty out a lot with his throwing. He looks like a plus defender against the steal at this point.

Wow is Delmon bad out there. That was Reimerian. Giambesque.

91. Dan Posted: August 09, 2011 at 01:20 AM (#3895901)

Ortiz going the other way against the lefty. Beautiful.

92. villageidiom Posted: August 09, 2011 at 01:20 AM (#3895902)

Tim Wakefield WILL get his 200th win tonight. Mark it down, doubters.

93. Phil Coorey. Posted: August 09, 2011 at 01:20 AM (#3895903)

That is a sweet swing from Papi

94. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: August 09, 2011 at 01:21 AM (#3895904)

Twins announcers: "That was maybe not the best route that Young took to the ball."

That's Minnesotan for, "I want to kill myself watching him play every day."

95. Hugh Jorgan Posted: August 09, 2011 at 01:21 AM (#3895905)

Papi...again!

96. ray james Posted: August 09, 2011 at 01:21 AM (#3895908)

I guess I can kind of understand why Tito wants to bunt here. Salty doesn't have the greatest bat control.

97. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: August 09, 2011 at 01:22 AM (#3895909)

And a nice piece of hitting by Salty, good inside-out swing. Fundamentals!

98. ray james Posted: August 09, 2011 at 01:22 AM (#3895910)

And, fi they score, it allows Tito to take Wakefield out, which I'm sure he secretly wants to do.

99. Dan Posted: August 09, 2011 at 01:23 AM (#3895911)

Why not PH Youkilis here?

100. Phil Coorey. Posted: August 09, 2011 at 01:23 AM (#3895912)

Is this a joke with Aviles in?

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