Even if the Sox make the playoffs, I think Ellsbury is losing votes.

I can't believe he's only 35, since he looks older than my Dad. It appears he never appeared in the Majors 2008-2009, did he spend that time doing heroin or what?

Is there any chance that the Sox make the playoffs and Francona gets fired?

s there any chance that the Sox make the playoffs and Francona gets fired?

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Thanks to the monumentally stupid idea of a 1 game playoff, CJ wilson will get 20mill a year next year from either the Red Sox or Yanks. He might of anyway.

While I was out buying gas for the mower, I was thinking "They need to pull Lester and save him for a short-rest start in BALT. But Tito will never think of that." Thank you Yanks for tacking on two more so Teets had little to no choice.

The Rays just don't deserve it. Their offense is terrible. They should be playing for the tie today. They really blew it.

He was in Japan. The story is that he came to the Sox' system largely because his sick daughter was best served by some of the hospitals in Boston. There were a few of those stories early last year when he came up.

Firing the most successful manager in modern Red Sox history would seem like a rash move, but since I don't have their best interests at heart, go right ahead.

Firing the most successful manager in modern Red Sox history would seem like a rash move, but since I don't have their best interests at heart, go right ahead.

I have the same "fear" you have, that firing him will be a mistake borne of rashness and frustration and will prove to be a mistake. I think there is a strong argument in favor of it though.

Firing the most successful manager in modern Red Sox history would seem like a rash move, but since I don't have their best interests at heart, go right ahead.

RB, we need to pick a celebratory steakhouse should the Yanks do it again.

Sox have started out poorly the last few years. Given the strength of the upcoming April 2012, I would rather fire/not exercise his option now...then lose an entire month in 2012.

Aceves not following orders blew the game two night ago.

Does any AL team deserve it?

I thought we had a standing policy for NYY Steak in the case of titles. But I'm certainly flexible, I want to do Palm at some point, so we should get the Carnivore Four there this winter.

If Francona goes, how many of the last few years will those around here decide that he was past his prime? Three full?

Always happy to do the Palm. My favorite chain.

Yes: the Oakland Athletics are very polite and punctual, and they are kind to small children and animals.

Here's the thing with this team though (to me anyway): if they can still somehow stumble into the playoffs, they've got so much talent that they are still very dangerous, and I would not be surprised to see them win a playoff series or two or even the whole thing.

Yes, with ticket prices at Fenway what they are, the hedge fund ubermen can feel secure knowing that they have 80% of the park to themselves

Here's the thing with this team though (to me anyway): if they can still somehow stumble into the playoffs, they've got so much talent that they are still very dangerous, and I would not be surprised to see them win a playoff series or two or even the whole thing.

If this team truly were even close to as good as we think/thought it is/was then they should have snapped out of this.

If this team truly were even close to as good as we think/thought it is/was then they should have snapped out of this.

That's a completely subjective statement, though. You might be right -- it's probably more likely that you're right -- but it's still just a guess.

Reset to zero in a playoff series and youneverknow.

Looks like the haters may have been wrong on Montero, too.

Looks like the haters may have been wrong on Montero, too.

RB - the worst Sept by a WS winner was the 2000 NYY.

Well, there you go. Of course, from mid-September, the Yankees looked every bit as bad as the Red Sox do now. They went 3-14 to end the year.

Looks like the haters may have been wrong on Montero, too.

I give you credit. It must be hard to feel like a victim as a Yankee fan, but you manage.

Reset to zero in a playoff series and youneverknow.

I like that Montero has followed the Yankee prospect pattern of dominating in the Majors after sucking in the minors. That's always fun.

re: Montero, I recall a fair amount of "over-rated" directed his way, not all of it confined to the absurd proposition that at age 21 we can rule him out as a MLB catcher.

re: Montero, I recall a fair amount of "over-rated" directed his way, not all of it confined to the absurd proposition that at age 21 we can rule him out as a MLB catcher.

Considering how many chances a C gets with a live ball, I suspect that disastrous C play could outweigh good hitting.

I've never understood the gripe against "He's a triple shy of the cycle" or similar. So somebody says that, what's the big deal? If he hits it, great, if not, he still has 3 other hits, 2 of which are XBH. Not too shabby anyway.

Considering how many chances a C gets with a live ball, I suspect that disastrous C play could outweigh good hitting.

I've seen Crawford be one of those guys in years past, Gardner is one of those guys, as is Ellsbury. When Carl hit that one, it was so much of an assumed double that the live camera never even went to him as a baserunner.