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RedSox (88-69) @ Yankees (96-61), Sunday, September 25, 2011, 6:30pm

BOS: John Lackey (32, RHP, 12-12, 6.49)
NYY: Ivan Nova (24, RHP, 16-4, 3.62)

The Primer Chimp Posted: September 25, 2011 at 01:00 PM | 1094 comment(s)
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101. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: September 25, 2011 at 07:21 PM (#3935800)

Jays just PH Teahan for Bautista.

Hah! Everyone hates the Red Sox.

102. Jay Seaver Posted: September 25, 2011 at 07:21 PM (#3935801)

Damn it Tito, can we end this "two really slow guys back-to-back" experiment between games? It is NOT WORKING.

103. Dan Posted: September 25, 2011 at 07:22 PM (#3935802)

I think this is the first time I've heard a Boston Sucks! chant and had no reason to disagree.

104. Swedish Chef Posted: September 25, 2011 at 07:24 PM (#3935803)

90 pitches for AJ, he could get a CG if they let him. I don't think this sim is realistic at all.

105. The Yankee Clapper Posted: September 25, 2011 at 07:25 PM (#3935805)

Jays just PH Teahan for Bautista.

He ran into the wall on the inside-the-park HR.

106. Dan Posted: September 25, 2011 at 07:25 PM (#3935806)

Burnett's good start will be funny in juxtaposition to Lackey getting rocked in the 2nd game. The fact that people talk about a contract swap there is just hilarious. Burnett still at least is decent occasionally. Lackey is pure downside.

107. Dale Sams Posted: September 25, 2011 at 07:27 PM (#3935807)

Damn it Tito, can we end this "two really slow guys back-to-back" experiment between games? It is NOT WORKING.

That was one of the things I screamed at him in the past. Batting Lowell and Ortiz back-to-back.

108. The John Wetland Memorial Death (CoB) Posted: September 25, 2011 at 07:27 PM (#3935808)

How is it possible that Atchinson looks 10 years older than Wakefield???

109. Esoteric throws a 'hard slider' Posted: September 25, 2011 at 07:28 PM (#3935810)

Sox are losing, Rays are winning, AJ Burnett's pitched a solid game, the Nats have rattled off a remarkably impressive September run against teams like the Phils and the Braves (and are currently up 1-0)...ain't the beer cold!

110. The John Wetland Memorial Death (CoB) Posted: September 25, 2011 at 07:31 PM (#3935811)

[109] Don't forget, Cards are down 1-0 and the Angels vs A's game is just about to start.

#### football, I've got an afternoon of playoff race baseball to watch.

111. Fat Al Posted: September 25, 2011 at 07:36 PM (#3935813)

Jays just PH Teahan for Bautista.

He ran into the wall. That's how Zobrist got his ITPHR

112. Jay Seaver Posted: September 25, 2011 at 07:36 PM (#3935814)

Potential runners on for Ellsbury?

No, I'm going to clamp down on that bit of hope and kill it before the team does so for me.

113. Fat Al Posted: September 25, 2011 at 07:37 PM (#3935816)

That's what I get for reading a page behind.

114. boteman Posted: September 25, 2011 at 07:38 PM (#3935818)

How is it possible that Atchinson looks 10 years older than Wakefield???

Japan. At least, that's the public story.

115. Dan Posted: September 25, 2011 at 07:39 PM (#3935819)

Tie game in StL.

116. The John Wetland Memorial Death (CoB) Posted: September 25, 2011 at 07:42 PM (#3935820)

Good job, Meat!

Now go pound some Budweisers ...

117. Esoteric throws a 'hard slider' Posted: September 25, 2011 at 07:42 PM (#3935821)

AJ Burnett just walked off to a standing 'O' from Yankees stadium. A non-ironic one.

It's an upside-down world!

118. NJ in NY Posted: September 25, 2011 at 07:43 PM (#3935822)

As much as I hate AJ, I'm glad he had that moment and hopeful that his performance this PS is reflective of his swinging strike rate and not his what actually happened stats.

119. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: September 25, 2011 at 07:43 PM (#3935823)

September 2011 Red Sox: So Bad They Help Yankees Fans Forgive AJ Burnett.

120. Dan Posted: September 25, 2011 at 07:44 PM (#3935825)

Girardi goes to Robertson. He's going for the throat. He can smell the kill.

121. Swedish Chef Posted: September 25, 2011 at 07:44 PM (#3935826)

Why didn't they just IBB Ellsbury, the pitcher's spot was coming up...

122. The John Wetland Memorial Death (CoB) Posted: September 25, 2011 at 07:44 PM (#3935827)

Some guy named Henry Rodriguez is throwing 100+ gas in Washington.

123. Swedish Chef Posted: September 25, 2011 at 07:45 PM (#3935828)

Some guy named Henry Rodriguez is throwing 100+ gas in Washington.

Is that Leo Nunez new name?

124. The John Wetland Memorial Death (CoB) Posted: September 25, 2011 at 07:45 PM (#3935829)

When you're the HAMMA, EVERYBODY looks like a nail.

125. Esoteric throws a 'hard slider' Posted: September 25, 2011 at 07:46 PM (#3935830)

David Roberton: not f**king around.

126. NJ in NY Posted: September 25, 2011 at 07:46 PM (#3935831)

Robertson with the change. He's so ####### good. So ####### good.

127. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: September 25, 2011 at 07:46 PM (#3935832)

As much as I hate AJ, I'm glad he had that moment and hopeful that his performance this PS is reflective of his swinging strike rate and not his what actually happened stats.

I just hope he can be an averagish SP next year.

128. Esoteric throws a 'hard slider' Posted: September 25, 2011 at 07:47 PM (#3935834)

Some guy named Henry Rodriguez is throwing 100+ gas in Washington.

He's always had that sort of velocity, he just never had the control until recently. In fact, he's still a little wild. But right now he looks like a great addition to a bullpen that's already pretty solid with Clippard and Storen in the setup & closer roles.

129. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: September 25, 2011 at 07:48 PM (#3935835)

even ellsbury is not awesome enough to stop robertson

130. boteman Posted: September 25, 2011 at 07:48 PM (#3935836)

Atchison's apparent age finally catches up with him.

131. Jay Seaver Posted: September 25, 2011 at 07:48 PM (#3935837)

Extra injuries. Awesome.

132. boteman Posted: September 25, 2011 at 07:49 PM (#3935838)

Some guy named Henry Rodriguez is throwing 100+ gas in Washington.

Remember Ricky Vaughn's heater before he got the glasses? That's Henry Rodriguez. Strasburg he aint.

133. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: September 25, 2011 at 07:51 PM (#3935839)

and uh the Pats having a sox like meltdown....

134. Dan Posted: September 25, 2011 at 07:52 PM (#3935840)

Do not care about the NFL at all until the World Series is over and I have to watch it since there's no baseball.

135. boteman Posted: September 25, 2011 at 07:52 PM (#3935841)

Crawford, Pedroia, Ortiz due up in the 9th.

Well, one and a half out of 3 aint bad odds.

136. Esoteric throws a 'hard slider' Posted: September 25, 2011 at 07:52 PM (#3935842)

and uh the Pats having a sox like meltdown....

Pretty much the only thing out of New England that's performing better than expected right now is...Mitt Romney. Contemplate that.

137. boteman Posted: September 25, 2011 at 07:53 PM (#3935843)

#134 gets a +1 from me.

138. Dan Posted: September 25, 2011 at 07:54 PM (#3935844)

Miller has looked at least possibly useful as a short reliever. As a starter he's definitely a failure, but with more time to get used to warming up as a reliever and coming in later in games, he might at least be a reasonable middle reliever.

139. Esoteric throws a 'hard slider' Posted: September 25, 2011 at 07:56 PM (#3935845)

And dumpster-diamond find Michael Morse just hit his 29th homer of the season to put the Nats up 3-0 on the Braves. The beer = getting colder as we speak.

140. Swedish Chef Posted: September 25, 2011 at 07:58 PM (#3935846)

Miller has looked at least possibly useful as a short reliever.

A guy that can't get Ramiro Pena out has no future.

141. The Yankee Clapper Posted: September 25, 2011 at 08:00 PM (#3935847)

And dumpster-diamond find Michael Morse just hit his 29th homer of the season to put the Nats up 3-0 on the Braves. The beer = getting colder as we speak.

Nationals just might be a playoff team next year.

142. boteman Posted: September 25, 2011 at 08:01 PM (#3935848)

#139 I found the Nats rather fun to watch this year. Morse needs no introduction, Danny Espinoza has been a defensive find and could be dangerous if he learns how to hit effectively, and their pitching staff was not a joke mostly.

Speaking of not a joke, Andrew Miller started the inning and there are now 2 outs??!! How is this possible?

143. Dan Posted: September 25, 2011 at 08:01 PM (#3935850)

That'll be a tough division with the Braves and Phillies though.

144. Dan Posted: September 25, 2011 at 08:02 PM (#3935851)

Crawford against Robertson should be hilarious.

145. Dan Posted: September 25, 2011 at 08:03 PM (#3935852)

Here comes a curve in the dirt for strike 3...

146. Jay Seaver Posted: September 25, 2011 at 08:06 PM (#3935857)

Tease time.

147. Esoteric throws a 'hard slider' Posted: September 25, 2011 at 08:07 PM (#3935859)

Danny Espinoza has been a defensive find and could be dangerous if he learns how to hit effectively

I'll take 21 homers out of my rookie defensive-whiz 2B any time, but yes it would be good if he could bring his average up a bit.

148. The John Wetland Memorial Death (CoB) Posted: September 25, 2011 at 08:07 PM (#3935860)

2-1 Cubs.

149. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim

Posted: September 25, 2011 at 08:11 PM (#3935864)

Out west, Piñero's looking strangely effective. 1-0 Angels.

150. The Yankee Clapper Posted: September 25, 2011 at 08:11 PM (#3935865)

John "Firewall" Lackey in Game 2. Might be interesting.

151. boteman Posted: September 25, 2011 at 08:12 PM (#3935866)

The Rays gotta be looking over their shoulders at the Angels. So much for the boring pennant race.

152. Esoteric throws a 'hard slider' Posted: September 25, 2011 at 08:12 PM (#3935867)

Man, Robertson fed it right down the middle on strike three. Ballsy.

Let's play two, folks! Oh wait, WE ARE PLAYING TWO. SWEET.

153. Jay Seaver Posted: September 25, 2011 at 08:12 PM (#3935868)

Crap. Crap crap crap crap. Could someone other than Ellsbury show some signs of life?

154. Dan Posted: September 25, 2011 at 08:13 PM (#3935870)

John "Firewall" Lackey in Game 2. Might be interesting.

When your firewall is a gas can, you're in trouble.

155. Daryn Posted: September 25, 2011 at 08:13 PM (#3935871)

Tonight is the Sox' first must win game of the season. Big Game Lackey is going to step it up. I can feel it.

156. The John Wetland Memorial Death (CoB) Posted: September 25, 2011 at 08:13 PM (#3935873)

In today's game the role of the nails was played by Mssrs. Crawford, Ortiz and Gonzalez.

The Alabama Hammer, ladies and gentlemen ...

157. Misirlou is bad, he's nationwide Posted: September 25, 2011 at 08:17 PM (#3935875)

6 shutout innings for Halladay today in his playoff tuneup. Dodgers and Kershaw just getting underway. Lee goes tomorrow. Kershaw needs a win to tie IPK for wins, and needs it to be a non-ugly win to keep the ERA title, and maybe strike out a few to guarantee Lee doesn't catch him. Oh, and Kemp 1 fo 1 so far.

158. The John Wetland Memorial Death (CoB) Posted: September 25, 2011 at 08:19 PM (#3935877)

Braves lose.

Cardinals have tied the Cubs.

159. The John Wetland Memorial Death (CoB) Posted: September 25, 2011 at 08:23 PM (#3935881)

The Attack Hamster goes deep in OAK, 2-0 Angels.

160. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim

Posted: September 25, 2011 at 08:24 PM (#3935882)

Bobby Abreu homers, 2-0 Angels in the 3rd.

161. The Yankee Clapper Posted: September 25, 2011 at 08:32 PM (#3935884)

Maybe someone should check on Ray between games.

162. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: September 25, 2011 at 08:33 PM (#3935885)

Do not care about the NFL at all until the World Series is over and I have to watch it since there's no baseball.

I've basically lost all interest in the NFL. Don't even care that the Giants beat the Eagles.

Probably won't watch a game this year, and will drop out of my Fantasy League after this season.

163. Misirlou is bad, he's nationwide Posted: September 25, 2011 at 08:34 PM (#3935887)

Maybe someone should check on Ray between games.

Since the Red Sox clinched a week ago, he's taking time off from baseball until the playoffs.

164. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: September 25, 2011 at 08:36 PM (#3935889)

huge hit for furcal

165. Misirlou is bad, he's nationwide Posted: September 25, 2011 at 08:36 PM (#3935890)

Cards take the lead.

166. Misirlou is bad, he's nationwide Posted: September 25, 2011 at 08:37 PM (#3935891)

3 K's for Kershaw in the first 2 innings. that pretty much wraps up 1/3 of the triple crown. I don't see Lee striking out 14 tomorrow.

167. The Long Arm of Rudy Law Posted: September 25, 2011 at 08:38 PM (#3935892)

Lackey is going to throw a no-hitter with 23 strikeouts tonight. Still, I predict the Yankees win 9-1.

168. The John Wetland Memorial Death (CoB) Posted: September 25, 2011 at 08:46 PM (#3935895)

Cardinals win.

Within 1 game of the Braves.

PENNANT FEVER!

169. The District Attorney Posted: September 25, 2011 at 08:48 PM (#3935898)

Rosenthal posts Sox lineup: Ellsbury, Crawford, Pedroia, Papi, Adrian, Lowrie, Drew, Scutaro, Varitek

170. Mayor Blomberg Posted: September 25, 2011 at 08:50 PM (#3935899)

163 - He'll point out that he never said that the Sox couldn't lose, only that the race was over and the Sox had won.

171. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: September 25, 2011 at 08:52 PM (#3935902)

Ryan Braun, 2-3, has another at-bat coming unless Brewers go 1-2-3 twice, .333
Jose Reyes, 1-3, one more at-bat unless Mets score 5, .330
Matt Kemp, 1-2, game in 3rd inning, .326

172. The Yankee Clapper Posted: September 25, 2011 at 08:55 PM (#3935903)

Yanks line-up fro LoHud blog:

Eduardo Nunez SS
Curtis Granderson CF
Robinson Cano 2B
Mark Teixeira 1B
Nick Swisher RF
Eric Chavez 3B
Jesus Montero DH
Chris Dickerson LF
Austin Romine C

173. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: September 25, 2011 at 08:56 PM (#3935905)

unless Brewers go 1-2-3 twice

They didn't.

174. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: September 25, 2011 at 08:56 PM (#3935906)

How do I register my disgust? I'm not giving up my season tix, I can't stop rooting but i feel I want to do something that in some small way indicates my disgust at this travesty.

175. The John Wetland Memorial Death (CoB) Posted: September 25, 2011 at 08:56 PM (#3935907)

Eduardo Nunez SS
Curtis Granderson CF
Robinson Cano 2B
Mark Teixeira 1B
Nick Swisher RF
Eric Chavez 3B
Jesus Montero DH
Chris Dickerson LF
Austin Romine C

176. boteman Posted: September 25, 2011 at 08:56 PM (#3935908)

Maybe someone should check on Ray between games.

I think he's at the market looking for some nice fresh crow.

177. The John Wetland Memorial Death (CoB) Posted: September 25, 2011 at 08:56 PM (#3935910)

Coke to the Clapper.

178. The Yankee Clapper Posted: September 25, 2011 at 09:01 PM (#3935911)

Cabrera now leads for batting title - .341 to .338 for Gonzalez & Young.

179. The John Wetland Memorial Death (CoB) Posted: September 25, 2011 at 09:04 PM (#3935912)

Those Padres' camo uniforms are the most hideous thing ever. They look like cat turds covered in kitty litter.

180. Dan Posted: September 25, 2011 at 09:23 PM (#3935919)

Crawford playing in both games while Reddick sits for both is a ####### joke. GO #### yourself Francona.

181. boteman Posted: September 25, 2011 at 09:25 PM (#3935920)

Red Sox charged with offensive indifference.

182. Misirlou is bad, he's nationwide Posted: September 25, 2011 at 09:29 PM (#3935925)

He'll point out that he never said that the Sox couldn't lose, only that the race was over and the Sox had won.

I also remember him making a big deal out the few Red Sox wins which were blowouts, and that blowout wins are an indication of a good team. True, the Sox won games this month by the scores of 14-0, 18-6, and 18-9, but they have also lost games by the scores of 10-0, 11-4, 9-1, 9-2, and 9-1 in the same period. Why didn't those count?

183. Jolly Old St. Nick Done Jumped The Ship

Posted: September 25, 2011 at 09:31 PM (#3935926)

Maybe someone should check on Ray between games.

Since the Red Sox clinched a week ago, he's taking time off from baseball until the playoffs.

Making sure that his closer in the Excuses Bullpen is well rested.

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163 - He'll point out that he never said that the Sox couldn't lose, only that the race was over and the Sox had won.

Or he'll say that the fact that they blew it doesn't prove that they could have blown it. Or something like that.

And that's it for helping out the Red Sox with complimentary reverse jinxing. They're on their own in Baltimore.

BTW wouldn't a three way wildcard shootout be fun? Flip a coin to determine the rivals in a game beginning at 11:00 on Thursday morning, and then fly the winner to the home field of the third team for an 8:30 night game. And given how they've all played, make the survivor fly Coach for the rest of the postseason.

184. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim

Posted: September 25, 2011 at 09:39 PM (#3935928)

BTW wouldn't a three way wildcard shootout be fun?

No. If there has to be a playoff, I wanna see Tampa and my Angels go after it in a one-game series. The Sox can burn.

185. boteman Posted: September 25, 2011 at 09:42 PM (#3935931)

How about a single playoff game in which they rotate the players and pitchers of each of the 3 teams? I don't know how that would work, but it would be quite a time saver.

186. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim

Posted: September 25, 2011 at 09:47 PM (#3935933)

Scott Downs on to brink of giving it up to Oakland. Bases loaded, 1 out, 3-0 Angels.

187. Misirlou is bad, he's nationwide Posted: September 25, 2011 at 09:47 PM (#3935934)

How about a single playoff game in which they rotate the players and pitchers of each of the 3 teams? I don't know how that would work, but it would be quite a time saver.

Team A bats against team B. Then Team C bats against team A. Then Team B bats against team C. Then team C bats against team B, then team A bats against team C, then team B bats against team A. Repeat 2 more times for a 9 inning game.

188. The John Wetland Memorial Death (CoB) Posted: September 25, 2011 at 09:49 PM (#3935935)

3-1 Angels.

189. Orange & Blue Velvet Posted: September 25, 2011 at 09:51 PM (#3935937)

The Cereal Killer with the sac fly. 3-2 Angels.

190. Mayor Blomberg Posted: September 25, 2011 at 09:52 PM (#3935938)

Is it more or less inevitable that the WC will be decided by a weird-assed play involving the roof of the dome?

191. The John Wetland Memorial Death (CoB) Posted: September 25, 2011 at 09:52 PM (#3935939)

3-2 Angels.

Waldron versus Matsui.

192. Joe Bivens, Minor Genius Posted: September 25, 2011 at 09:52 PM (#3935940)

Drew?

193. The Long Arm of Rudy Law Posted: September 25, 2011 at 09:53 PM (#3935941)

I remember hearing about an old game that three teams played in, rotating like in 187. I think it was the Dodgers, Giants, and Yankees when they were all in New York.

194. Hugh Jorgan Posted: September 25, 2011 at 09:55 PM (#3935942)

Dear Dale and Jose,

Please allow me offer my apologies for ever doubting your knowledge and soothsayer like abilities to predict the team would fail this badly. My simple logic was this, surely a team of this quality, yes even lacking half decent starting pitching, would still manage to cobble together 9-10 wins in Sept. and get the 93-94 wins necessary to make the playoffs.

However, I was gravely mistaken; consider my pants pissed. Ray, you are all alone now mate.

Sincerely

Hugh Jorgan

ps, yes I did figure we'd drop these two games today when the pitchers were announced, but for the team go seemingly go so meekly to defeat over the past few games have been disturbing to witness.

195. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: September 25, 2011 at 09:55 PM (#3935943)

With Tampa winning today my dream of all three teams losing out with the Sox backing in is gone. Now, one of the three teams will need at least one more win.

196. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: September 25, 2011 at 09:55 PM (#3935944)

Reddick's been really awful, too.

I don't have any real before-the-fact critiques of Francona because I have no idea what he should do to get the team out of their funk. I'm not a professional manager of professional baseball players. I could give him some tips on getting 19-year-olds to do their reading, but on this I'm at a loss. However, I feel perfectly fine blaming him after the fact is the Sox keep playing baseball this embarrassingly poor. I guess I could say that whatever he's been doing so far has been a humongous failure, and tonight's lineup certainly suggests he's making no new efforts there.

I don't even know if there's time to shake these guys up, or whatever it takes to remove their collective head from their collective ass. Francona sure as hell better hope there is.

197. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: September 25, 2011 at 09:57 PM (#3935947)

Jose and Dale saw early on that this club was actually playing bad baseball, not just getting poor baseball results.

I still think that it was reasonable to expect that they would shake off their funk - usually, streaks end sooner than later - but they haven't.

198. boteman Posted: September 25, 2011 at 09:59 PM (#3935949)

A couple talking heads have remarked that the Red Sox going on the road would itself shake them up and give them a change of scenery to start fresh. Doesn't look like that happened, plus a double header when the team is under stress like this can only add to their troubles.

199. Gamingboy Posted: September 25, 2011 at 10:01 PM (#3935951)

The collision of the pennant races in Baseball and the Bills finally, mercifully, dramatically beating the Patriots makes this one of the best weekends in sports in awhile for me (even if it means that the Yankees are winning), but it's gotta be hell for you guys.

200. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: September 25, 2011 at 10:04 PM (#3935952)

However, I was gravely mistaken; consider my pants pissed. Ray, you are all alone now mate.

I actually still think the Red Sox will hold on. I'm probably just in an overly cheery mood, though, given that I recently went on one of those "date" things I've heard so much about.

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