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Sunday, September 25, 2011

RedSox (88-69) @ Yankees (96-61), Sunday, September 25, 2011, 6:30pm

BOS: John Lackey (32, RHP, 12-12, 6.49)
NYY: Ivan Nova (24, RHP, 16-4, 3.62)

The Primer Chimp Posted: September 25, 2011 at 01:00 PM | 1094 comment(s)
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   601. Scoriano Flitcraft Posted: September 26, 2011 at 01:36 AM (#3936450)
Great pitch.
   602. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: September 26, 2011 at 01:36 AM (#3936451)
You could see that coming once it went 1-2
   603. Jay Seaver Posted: September 26, 2011 at 01:36 AM (#3936452)
Huge. Just huge.
   604. Benji Gil Gamesh VII - The Opt-Out Awakens Posted: September 26, 2011 at 01:36 AM (#3936453)
An Els HR is now inevitable.
   605. Accent Shallow is doin' the catapult Posted: September 26, 2011 at 01:36 AM (#3936455)
I'd like to take this opportunity to thank the Red Sox for moving Papelbon to the bullpen. I can't imagine five+ innings of this dawdling.
   606. Phil Coorey. Posted: September 26, 2011 at 01:36 AM (#3936456)
How do people feel about possibly converting Bard to a starter? He has the 4-seamer, 2-seamer, slider (that he somethings makes more a of slurve or curve), and the change up. And the Sox need starting depth. And Bard seems to lack that killer instinct high leverage relievers need.


I'd take anyone to start over some of these current novelty acts we have
   607. NTNgod Posted: September 26, 2011 at 01:37 AM (#3936457)
How do people feel about possibly converting Bard to a starter?

He was beyond horrible as a starter in the minors.
   608. CWS Keith plans to [omitted] at [omitted] Posted: September 26, 2011 at 01:37 AM (#3936458)
That's a damn good pitch.
   609. BDC Posted: September 26, 2011 at 01:37 AM (#3936459)
Very odd; I don't see what's with all the other pinch-hitting and -running if you're going to leave Romine in to bat there. Oh well.
   610. Hugh Jorgan Posted: September 26, 2011 at 01:37 AM (#3936460)
YES, Crawford is up this inning. Time for more hi-jinx and rollicking good fun.
   611. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: September 26, 2011 at 01:37 AM (#3936461)
How do people feel about possibly converting Bard to a starter? He has the 4-seamer, 2-seamer, slider (that he somethings makes more a of slurve or curve), and the change up. And the Sox need starting depth. And Bard seems to lack that killer instinct high leverage relievers need.
With his history of command problems, I think Bard's best going just one or two innings. I fear that SP Bard would look too much like Andrew Miller.
   612. AndrewJ Posted: September 26, 2011 at 01:37 AM (#3936462)
Might that have been the most important strikeout in Red Sox franchise history?
   613. Bote Man Posted: September 26, 2011 at 01:38 AM (#3936463)
We've secretly replaced Joe Girardi's binder with one filled with blank pages. Let's see if he notices.
   614. Lassus Posted: September 26, 2011 at 01:39 AM (#3936464)
You guys are now playing the AA squad. If you could do something here, please?
   615. Avoid running at all times.-S. Paige Posted: September 26, 2011 at 01:39 AM (#3936465)
That was a strange decision by Girardi.
   616. Nose army. Beef diaper? (CoB) Posted: September 26, 2011 at 01:39 AM (#3936466)
I believe it's time for Raul Valdes.

I'm just going to let all the Rays fans ... well, at least all those Ray's players, do my cursing for me here ...
   617. Random Transaction Generator Posted: September 26, 2011 at 01:39 AM (#3936467)
I found it humourous that Nunez was standing in the batter's box while Romine was up to bat.

What's the point? You aren't going to be coming to bat that inning, no matter what happens.
   618. rr Posted: September 26, 2011 at 01:39 AM (#3936468)
Girardi should have hit for Romine there.
   619. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: September 26, 2011 at 01:39 AM (#3936469)
Ooh boy, Raul Valdes! Or Valdez! Or Vauldez! I'm not really sure.
   620. Jay Seaver Posted: September 26, 2011 at 01:40 AM (#3936470)
I may have mentioned this before, but I hate September call-ups. If teams are going to play spring training rosters, they should reduce the tickets to spring training prices.
   621. NTNgod Posted: September 26, 2011 at 01:40 AM (#3936471)
Bard had 156 walks, 54 wild pitches and 16 HBP in 150 innings as a starter in the minors.
   622. Benji Gil Gamesh VII - The Opt-Out Awakens Posted: September 26, 2011 at 01:40 AM (#3936473)
Jeter makes that play. (seriously)
   623. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: September 26, 2011 at 01:40 AM (#3936474)
I don't know if that was a catchable ball, but Nunez sure made it look bad.
   624. Jose is an Absurd Doubles Machine Posted: September 26, 2011 at 01:40 AM (#3936475)
Might that have been the most important strikeout in Red Sox franchise history?


Off the cuff I'll say Wake in game five 2004.

This team has beaten me down, I can't get excited, I want to but I can't.
   625. Dan Posted: September 26, 2011 at 01:40 AM (#3936476)
What's the point? You aren't going to be coming to bat that inning, no matter what happens.


He just wanted to stand close enough to Romine so that he could give him some words of encouragement.
   626. nick swisher hygiene Posted: September 26, 2011 at 01:41 AM (#3936477)
Martin's caught a game already today; Jorge is only gonna catch in emergencies; same, it seems, goes for Montero. I think Romine would play all 18 if it went that far...
   627. The District Attorney Posted: September 26, 2011 at 01:41 AM (#3936478)
Or Vauldez!
Only in Canada.
   628. Something Other Posted: September 26, 2011 at 01:41 AM (#3936479)
Lord, but the latest version of mlb.com's Game Day sucks. The earlier versions were easy to track. All the necessary information was in front, and secondary stuff was easier to spot and to click on, if you wanted it.

Ugh.

Oh. And, interesting game. 4-4 going into the 10th. Think I'll stick around.
   629. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: September 26, 2011 at 01:41 AM (#3936480)
Nice bunt, #######.
   630. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: September 26, 2011 at 01:42 AM (#3936481)
He can't do anything right.
   631. Dan Posted: September 26, 2011 at 01:42 AM (#3936482)
Bard had 156 walks, 54 wild pitches and 16 HBP in 150 innings as a starter in the minors.


He's developed a lot as a pitcher though since then. I think it's at least worth trying in spring training. If Ogando, Wilson, Dempster, etc. can pull it off, I think it's worth a shot with Bard.
   632. Nose army. Beef diaper? (CoB) Posted: September 26, 2011 at 01:42 AM (#3936483)
Nice.

Stones from Raul.
   633. Jay Seaver Posted: September 26, 2011 at 01:42 AM (#3936484)
Add something else to the list of things that Carl Crawford can't do right.
   634. Hugh Jorgan Posted: September 26, 2011 at 01:42 AM (#3936485)
Might that have been the most important strikeout in Red Sox franchise history

Hey, whoa, just reign in your head there hyperbole boy....
   635. Dan Posted: September 26, 2011 at 01:42 AM (#3936486)
Crawford is just a bad baseball player.
   636. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: September 26, 2011 at 01:42 AM (#3936487)
Crawford, not making a lot of friends in Boston these days.
   637. Something Other Posted: September 26, 2011 at 01:42 AM (#3936488)
A ####### bunt? A ####### bunt?
   638. Jay Seaver Posted: September 26, 2011 at 01:43 AM (#3936489)
Seriously, Girardi? LaRussaball in extra innings?
   639. Phil Coorey. Posted: September 26, 2011 at 01:43 AM (#3936490)
Nice bunt you stupid ####### #### - #### you suck
   640. Good cripple hitter Posted: September 26, 2011 at 01:43 AM (#3936491)
Lord, but the latest version of mlb.com's Game Day sucks. The earlier versions were easy to track. All the necessary information was in front, and secondary stuff was easier to spot and to click on, if you wanted it.


You can hit the 'classic' button in the top right portion of the screen to get back to the earlier version, if you're talking about the version I'm thinking of.
   641. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: September 26, 2011 at 01:43 AM (#3936492)
Seriously, Girardi? LaRussaball in extra innings?
It's better than using mediocre relievers without the platoon advantage, isn't it?
   642. Hugh Jorgan Posted: September 26, 2011 at 01:43 AM (#3936493)
Yep, 158 games later and Crawford is still giving me the sh*ts.
   643. Answer Guy, outhacking you by a mile. Posted: September 26, 2011 at 01:44 AM (#3936494)
How does a guy like Crawford #### up a bunt like that?
   644. Nose army. Beef diaper? (CoB) Posted: September 26, 2011 at 01:44 AM (#3936495)
Wait, aren't there 2 LHB due up after Pedroia?

I sure as HELL hope this doesn't mean an appearance from Aaron ####### Laffey.
   645. Dan Posted: September 26, 2011 at 01:45 AM (#3936496)
Crawford should just be benched for the rest of the season. He's embarrassing himself at this point and hurting the team in almost every situation.
   646. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: September 26, 2011 at 01:45 AM (#3936497)
The Yankees are getting a 1.98 ERA out of Cory ####### Wade? Are you ####### kidding me?
   647. Mattbert Posted: September 26, 2011 at 01:45 AM (#3936498)
YES, Crawford is up this inning. Time for more hi-jinx and rollicking good fun.

You can put him in the rocket with Lackey before you shoot it into the sun.
   648. Answer Guy, outhacking you by a mile. Posted: September 26, 2011 at 01:45 AM (#3936499)
Whatever. It's like this team completely forgot how to play baseball this month. It's not just that the pitching sucks and that the hitting all comes at the wrong time. Errors, miscues, it's just embarassing.
   649. Something Other Posted: September 26, 2011 at 01:46 AM (#3936500)
So, GameDay keeps the number of outs secret? Is it known that they make it so ####### awful that it drives cheap people like me to pay for the upgraded version?
   650. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: September 26, 2011 at 01:46 AM (#3936501)
Dustin Pedroia just swung through a mediocre fastball down the heart of the plate.
   651. Squash Posted: September 26, 2011 at 01:46 AM (#3936502)
See, what's the point of having crazy-fast good basestealers if you're just going to bunt them over in big situations anyway? (I mean this in the general sense, Ellsbury is obviously a great player to have regardless.) Last night Eric Young, who can do nothing but steal bases, it's the only reason he's on the team, got on late in Colorado. They bunted him over. What's the point of having Eric Young do everything else poorly if you're not going to use his one real weapon in the one situation when it's really needed?
   652. Something Other Posted: September 26, 2011 at 01:47 AM (#3936503)
Cripple hitter--you da man!!
   653. Nose army. Beef diaper? (CoB) Posted: September 26, 2011 at 01:47 AM (#3936504)
The Yankees are getting a 1.98 ERA out of Cory ####### Wade? Are you ####### kidding me?


You think THAT'S crazy???

You should see what we've gotten from Luis Ayala ...
   654. Der-K: downgraded to lurker Posted: September 26, 2011 at 01:47 AM (#3936505)
Wade does that, MCoA.

I have no trouble finding outs, etc... with Gameday. Is it just me?
   655. Phil Coorey. Posted: September 26, 2011 at 01:48 AM (#3936506)
Crawford should just be benched for the rest of his contract. He's embarrassing himself at this point and hurting the team in almost every situation.

Fixed
   656. NTNgod Posted: September 26, 2011 at 01:48 AM (#3936507)
Colts are beating the Steelers; anything's possible in this world.
   657. Answer Guy, outhacking you by a mile. Posted: September 26, 2011 at 01:48 AM (#3936508)
At least they're getting a new pitching coach next year.
   658. Random Transaction Generator Posted: September 26, 2011 at 01:48 AM (#3936509)
Off the cuff I'll say Wake in game five 2004.

I went looking through the ALCS, and there really wasn't a "series on the line" strike out moment for the Red Sox pitchers.
Even if Wakefield doesn't do it, they still have the bottom of the inning to make it back.

Keith Foulke's back-to-back strikeouts with the bases loaded in the top of the 9th inning in game 3 of the ALDS against the Angels MIGHT be the biggest one in the playoffs that year. But again, the Red Sox had a chance in the bottom of the inning (and the next two games, if they blew that one).
   659. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: September 26, 2011 at 01:48 AM (#3936510)
Wade does that, MCoA.
Dustin Pedroia, when he's right, never does that, no matter how good the fastball.
   660. Der-K: downgraded to lurker Posted: September 26, 2011 at 01:49 AM (#3936511)
That's fair.
   661. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: September 26, 2011 at 01:49 AM (#3936512)
Pedroia should have crushed several pitches that at bat.
   662. Answer Guy, outhacking you by a mile. Posted: September 26, 2011 at 01:50 AM (#3936513)
This team seems to hit like they're all ####### pitchers in the late innings too.
   663. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: September 26, 2011 at 01:51 AM (#3936514)
Girardi isn't even trying to win this game and the Red Sox can't take it. This is so sad.
   664. Hugh Jorgan Posted: September 26, 2011 at 01:51 AM (#3936515)
C'mon Wade, just leave 1 pitch out over the plate..c'mon...
   665. Hugh Jorgan Posted: September 26, 2011 at 01:51 AM (#3936517)
crap. We stink.
   666. Random Transaction Generator Posted: September 26, 2011 at 01:51 AM (#3936518)
The sadist in me wants this game to go 20 to 23 innings tonight.
Just completely #### over the pitching staffs, and watch as the final score is 9-8, as position players pitch the final inning for both teams.
   667. Phil Coorey. Posted: September 26, 2011 at 01:52 AM (#3936519)
An inning that lost all momentum after the Crawful bunt - great stuff
   668. Random Transaction Generator Posted: September 26, 2011 at 01:52 AM (#3936520)
oh! Post #666 and it's the evil one! Nice!
   669. Nose army. Beef diaper? (CoB) Posted: September 26, 2011 at 01:54 AM (#3936521)
Girardi isn't even trying to win this game and the Red Sox can't take it. This is so sad.


Well, at this point, though you might not believe it, Valdes and Wade IS trying to win the game.

After Wade, his options are Laffey, Ayala, Kontos, Proctor, Betances and Brackman.

I'd have gone with those two there as well (though I probably wouldn't have pulled Valdes until after Gonzalez).
   670. Dan Posted: September 26, 2011 at 01:54 AM (#3936522)
If we make it to the next inning, we have our 5-6-7 of Lars, Aviles, and Drew! Yippee!!
   671. Answer Guy, outhacking you by a mile. Posted: September 26, 2011 at 01:54 AM (#3936525)
So many things I hate about the 2011 Sox. They're a veteran team who make shitloads of rookie mistakes. Not a single damn pitcher capable of a clutch performance when needed. They score lots of runs but they'll play three game sets where they win one game 18-2 and lose the other two 3-2 and 2-1. Opposing teams can run at will. And the defense in the second half...ugh....
   672. nick swisher hygiene Posted: September 26, 2011 at 01:54 AM (#3936526)
646--You know, it's a funny thing: Corey Wade has a career WHIP of 1.06, sub-3 ERA, and yet everybody I know assumes he should suck...
   673. Dan Posted: September 26, 2011 at 01:55 AM (#3936527)
I'd have gone with those two there as well (though I probably wouldn't have pulled Valdes until after Gonzalez).


Gonzalez is out of the game because speed demon Lars Anderson had to come in to get bunted to 2nd base and move to third on a grounder.
   674. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: September 26, 2011 at 01:55 AM (#3936528)
So wait. Girardi IBBs Scutaro in the 9th to get to Saltalamacchia but doesn't IBB Ortiz in the 10th, and leaves in a RHP to face him, with Lars Anderson hitting behind him. O...K.......
   675. Dan Posted: September 26, 2011 at 01:56 AM (#3936529)
646--You know, it's a funny thing: Corey Wade has a career WHIP of 1.06, sub-3 ERA, and yet everybody I know assumes he should suck...


I don't understand how the Rays let him walk without getting an inning in the MLB pen, while they were carrying Sonnanstine on the 25 man roster from opening day until some time in July or August.
   676. Answer Guy, outhacking you by a mile. Posted: September 26, 2011 at 01:56 AM (#3936530)
Had first been open, Ortiz would probably have been IBB'd.
   677. willcarrolldoesnotsuk Posted: September 26, 2011 at 01:57 AM (#3936531)
E. Nunez SS
G. Golson RF
R. Pena 3B
A. Romine C
C. Wade P

lolsox
   678. Textbook Editor Posted: September 26, 2011 at 01:58 AM (#3936532)
Keith Foulke's back-to-back strikeouts with the bases loaded in the top of the 9th inning in game 3 of the ALDS against the Angels MIGHT be the biggest one in the playoffs that year. But again, the Red Sox had a chance in the bottom of the inning (and the next two games, if they blew that one).


Foulke's efforts in the ALCS get a little lost given that he was well out of the game when 4 & 5 were won in extra innings, but what he did over 3 days in Games 4-5-6 will be awfully hard to top, and it is impossible to imagine either Bard or Papelbon performing such a feat at any time in their careers.
   679. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: September 26, 2011 at 01:58 AM (#3936533)
E. Nunez SS
G. Golson RF
R. Pena 3B
A. Romine C
C. Wade P


On the plus side, the Yankees have some high rent PH available.
   680. salajander Posted: September 26, 2011 at 01:59 AM (#3936534)
Papelbon's little pursed-lipped scowl is one of the more unintentionally hilarious things in baseball.
   681. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: September 26, 2011 at 01:59 AM (#3936535)
I'm declaring a 10:30 curfew for myself.
   682. Textbook Editor Posted: September 26, 2011 at 01:59 AM (#3936536)
And on top of all of this tonight probably makes Papelbon only available for 1 IP tomorrow, maybe not at all on Tuesday.
   683. Nose army. Beef diaper? (CoB) Posted: September 26, 2011 at 02:01 AM (#3936537)
646--You know, it's a funny thing: Corey Wade has a career WHIP of 1.06, sub-3 ERA, and yet everybody I know assumes he should suck...


Wade (obviously) isn't as good as his ERA, but I'm not surprised by his success. He clearly commands his pitches well and knows how to pitch.

Frankly, Luis Ayala (as I said above) is the completely baffling success story out of the bullpen this year.
   684. Lassus Posted: September 26, 2011 at 02:01 AM (#3936538)
I'm declaring a 10:30 curfew for myself.

I admit, I'm hoping for a 23-inning Red Sox win, just for the insanity of it.
   685. Hugh Jorgan Posted: September 26, 2011 at 02:02 AM (#3936539)
Papelbon's little pursed-lipped scowl

Sorry, we refer to it as the blowup doll mouth....
   686. Nose army. Beef diaper? (CoB) Posted: September 26, 2011 at 02:02 AM (#3936540)
Look, you remaining 12 morons, stop chanting "Boston Sucks".
   687. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: September 26, 2011 at 02:03 AM (#3936541)
I assume there's one more inning in Papelbon. Good thing the heart of the order is up.
   688. Nose army. Beef diaper? (CoB) Posted: September 26, 2011 at 02:03 AM (#3936543)
Papelbon's little pursed-lipped scowl is one of the more unintentionally hilarious things in baseball.


Private Pyle lives in a world of #### ...
   689. Jay Seaver Posted: September 26, 2011 at 02:04 AM (#3936544)
Papelbon, at least, is getting it done tonight.
   690. Answer Guy, outhacking you by a mile. Posted: September 26, 2011 at 02:05 AM (#3936546)
Ah, the pinch runner coming to bat for the badly needed slugger. This was a Jimy Williams trademark.
   691. Rafael Bellylard: The Grinch of Orlando. Posted: September 26, 2011 at 02:05 AM (#3936547)
I've decided I'm staying up for the duration, especially since I was at work for the first 19 innings or so. If the game gets continues after 12:30am, I'll call in sick tomorrow.
   692. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: September 26, 2011 at 02:05 AM (#3936548)
Papelbon's little pursed-lipped scowl is one of the more unintentionally hilarious things in baseball.
Many, many things about Papelbon are among the most hilarious things in baseball.

Papelbon on his baby's name:
Papelbon had told me back in January of his plans to name their son Gunner. The significance?

''Nothing, man. Just a badass name, so we went with it.''
   693. Nose army. Beef diaper? (CoB) Posted: September 26, 2011 at 02:06 AM (#3936549)
Man, I smell a big redemptive JD Drew moment coming up.
   694. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: September 26, 2011 at 02:07 AM (#3936550)
Not that you can do this, but if Tito could somehow take Papelbon out for the bottom of the 11th, then reinsert him for the 12th, that would be the best use.
   695. Phil Coorey. Posted: September 26, 2011 at 02:08 AM (#3936553)
Some great at bats in extras so far
   696. Tom Cervo, backup catcher Posted: September 26, 2011 at 02:08 AM (#3936554)
Papelbon, at least, is getting it done tonight.


Is there anyone in baseball even close to as good as he is at high fastballs for swings and misses?
   697. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: September 26, 2011 at 02:08 AM (#3936555)
Another impressive hitting effort.
   698. Nose army. Beef diaper? (CoB) Posted: September 26, 2011 at 02:09 AM (#3936556)
[693] Or not.

But you can't blame me for going for the obvious Hollywood plot-line, right?
   699. Benji Gil Gamesh VII - The Opt-Out Awakens Posted: September 26, 2011 at 02:09 AM (#3936557)
Well, at least we're wearing out the Yankees bp for their next series!! Ha, take THAT!!
   700. Bote Man Posted: September 26, 2011 at 02:09 AM (#3936559)
Not that you can do this, but if Tito could somehow take Papelbon out for the bottom of the 11th, then reinsert him for the 12th, that would be the best use.

Can he play RF?
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