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Tuesday, September 27, 2011

RedSox (89-71) @ Orioles (68-92), Tuesday, September 27, 2011, 7:05pm

BOS: Erik Bedard (32, LHP, 5-9, 3.50)
BAL: Zach Britton (23, LHP, 11-10, 4.44)

The Primer Chimp Posted: September 27, 2011 at 01:00 PM | 853 comment(s)
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   1. tfbg9 Posted: September 27, 2011 at 05:01 PM (#3939141)
Over in that Bizarro World otherwise known as Vegas, the Sox have been installed as about -161 overdogs* tonight, with the Devil Dogs at roughly -190.
This means that the Sox have a 62% of winning, and the Rays 66%...so, these clowns are giving the Sox a 21% of being in the lead after tonight,
a 25% of being one game back, and there being no change in the standings? That's at 54%.

I know these boys aint going broke making these lines, but I can't "see" anything else happening besides the Sox losing and the Rays winning.

Life will go on, and some people have real problems. Let's try to remember this.


*I have been noticing a real trend of late where the line creeps a bit towards the Sox opponent's chances as the day goes on...that the Sox are seemingly always more
of a favorite in the opening line than in what the lines ends up being at game time.
   2. tfbg9 Posted: September 27, 2011 at 06:04 PM (#3939214)
It looked normal in the preview...
   3. Dan Posted: September 27, 2011 at 07:14 PM (#3939319)
1. Jacoby Ellsbury (L) CF
2. Dustin Pedroia (R) 2B
3. David Ortiz (L) DH
4. Jed Lowrie (S) 3B
5. Adrian Gonzalez (L) 1B
6. Ryan Lavarnway (R) C
7. Darnell McDonald (R) RF
8. Carl Crawford (L) LF
9. Marco Scutaro (R) SS

Interesting lineup. Very glad to see Crawford dropped to 8th (especially against a lefty) and to see Lavarnway in there at C instead of a banged up Varitek or Salty.
   4. Dan Posted: September 27, 2011 at 07:16 PM (#3939321)
I guess Lowrie batting cleanup is a bit nutso, but otherwise you're looking at Ortiz and Gonzalez hitting back to back, which makes it too easy on Buck to go to his LooGy's especially with a September bullpen.
   5. Dan Posted: September 27, 2011 at 08:00 PM (#3939371)
Yankees are playing a stronger lineup that I was expecting. Basically only Jeter is resting:


1. Eduardo Nunez (R) SS
2. Curtis Granderson (L) CF
3. Robinson Cano (L) 2B
4. Alex Rodriguez (R) 3B
5. Mark Teixeira (S) 1B
6. Nick Swisher (S) RF
7. Jorge Posada (S) DH
8. Russell Martin (R) C
9. Brett Gardner (L) LF

Pretty standard Rays lineup:


1. Desmond Jennings (R) LF
2. B.J. Upton (R) CF
3. Evan Longoria (R) 3B
4. Matt Joyce (L) RF
5. Johnny Damon (L) DH
6. Ben Zobrist (S) 2B
7. Casey Kotchman (L) 1B
8. Kelly Shoppach (R) C
9. Sean Rodriguez (R) SS

And Orioles running out their usual guys:


1. Robert Andino (R) 2B
2. J.J. Hardy (R) SS
3. Nick Markakis (L) RF
4. Vladimir Guerrero (R) DH
5. Matt Wieters (S) C
6. Adam Jones (R) CF
7. Mark Reynolds (R) 1B
8. Chris Davis (L) 3B
9. Nolan Reimold (R) LF
   6. Textbook Editor Posted: September 27, 2011 at 08:00 PM (#3939372)
Can Crawford be dropped to 10th?
   7. The John Wetland Memorial Death (CoB) Posted: September 27, 2011 at 08:04 PM (#3939385)
[5] I expected the regular 9, actually. I'd be surprised if tomorrow's lineup isn't essentially this one as well, at least for the first 5-6 innings.

If Colon can go 6 tonight, I'd be surprised if the game doesn't go Colon - Soriano - Robertson - Rivera, regardless of the score.
   8. Dan Posted: September 27, 2011 at 08:13 PM (#3939398)
If Colon can go 6 tonight, I'd be surprised if the game doesn't go Colon - Soriano - Robertson - Rivera, regardless of the score.


That part I expect because Girardi wants to line up the pitching and get everyone sharp but rested. But I figured we'd be seeing about half the starters resting today and the other half resting tomorrow.
   9. The John Wetland Memorial Death (CoB) Posted: September 27, 2011 at 08:39 PM (#3939422)
At this point, I'm not sure there's anyone in the lineup that really needs any rest. I don't think there are any nagging injuries and Girardi's been rotating his lineups for at least a week or so; everybody's gotten a couple of days off.
   10. Gamingboy Posted: September 27, 2011 at 08:59 PM (#3939447)
In this episode of "Buck Showalter's Vendetta of Vengeful Vengeance and Demand-Of-Being-Shown-Respect", our Hero faces an old Oriole, hailing from the great white north.

Can Buck Showalter and his superhuman ally Matt Wieters continue their torment of the red-hosed baseballers of Beantown?

Will Vladimir Guerrero and Mark Reynolds both go the entire game without striking out?

And, will Beantown once again fall victim to Tampa's infiltrator, Carl "Cuba Gooding" Crawford?
   11. Dr. Vaux Posted: September 27, 2011 at 09:05 PM (#3939456)
If they play. Weather report says rain showers through late evening. I imagine they'll wait a while, of course.
   12. Dan Posted: September 27, 2011 at 09:17 PM (#3939468)
It'll be fun if this game is delayed until after the Rays win. I'm sure this group will deal with the added pressure well.
   13. The John Wetland Memorial Death (CoB) Posted: September 27, 2011 at 09:52 PM (#3939494)
Also of note in the Yankees lineup, Girardi finally responded to reality and switched Cano and Teixeira in the order. Hopefully, that's the way things look for the rest of the season and playoffs.
   14. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: September 27, 2011 at 10:27 PM (#3939518)
Who is this "Lavarnway" character? He must not have been on the roster this month, or surely he would have been used more often.
   15. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: September 27, 2011 at 10:28 PM (#3939519)
On a less joking note, even if playing Lavarnway doesn't work out I'm glad they're trying something different tonight.
   16. Gamingboy Posted: September 27, 2011 at 10:36 PM (#3939523)
Casey Kotchman will miss game against Yankees with chest pains.
   17. Benji Gil Gamesh Rises Posted: September 27, 2011 at 10:37 PM (#3939525)
BELIEVE!!
   18. Dan Posted: September 27, 2011 at 10:52 PM (#3939534)
On a less joking note, even if playing Lavarnway doesn't work out I'm glad they're trying something different tonight.


My thoughts exactly.
   19. The John Wetland Memorial Death (CoB) Posted: September 27, 2011 at 10:53 PM (#3939535)
Following up on [13] here's LoHud:


It’s been a few days since Joe Girardi approached Mark Teixeira with the idea of moving Robinson Cano up to the third spot in the batting order. The move would have happened sooner, but it’s been a while since Cano, Teixeira and Alex Rodriguez were in the same lineup together.

“I told Joe, not only am I for it, I think it’s a great idea,” Teixeira said. “Obviously, left-handed, my average isn’t where it should be, and Robbie’s had a great season. He’s hot – he’s really hot – and why not mix it up against a righty and hit him third… I think that’s the plan (for the playoffs). I think we’re going to see how it works, and I don’t see why it wouldn’t work.”

Chances are, the Yankees are going to stick with this lineup into the postseason, but only against right-handers. Girardi said he’s “leaning” toward going back to the old alignment against lefties. Teixeira is still a good all-around hitter against left-handers, and Girardi likes the idea of splitting lefties Cano and Curtis Granderson.

“The thing about managing here is that we have a lot of really good hitters,” Girardi said. “We have a lot of guys who could hit third in other lineups. You try to space it out, try to make it difficult for teams to navigate through. We’re moving Robbie to the three-hole against right-handers and it’s something we could do against lefties, too.”

Teixeira said he’s been working with Kevin Long on changing his approach against right-handers. He’s squared up his stance a little bit, and he’s trying to use the whole field a little more. He admitted that the right-field porch at Yankee Stadium became a little too tempting and got him into some bad habits after his strong 2009 season. Now the defensive shift is frustrating him, and Teixeira is trying to correct the problem without losing his power.

“You don’t want me to turn into a slap hitter,” he said. “But at the same time, I think if I use a little bit more of the field – a little bit more of center field – some of those balls will start falling. I can’t get a ground ball hit left-handed right now. That’s not good for your average, so I need to kind of focus on keeping the ball up the middle and trying to use all of the field… I’m greedy. I want to have it all. I want to get back to being a high-.200s (or) .300s type hitter with the same amount of home runs and RBIs, and I think I can do that again. Actually, I know I can do that again.”

Girardi also admitted that it’s been hard not to notice that teams have been pitching around Cano lately, and that played a role in this decision.

   20. The John Wetland Memorial Death (CoB) Posted: September 27, 2011 at 11:00 PM (#3939539)
Also, it's good to Ryan "Rich Man's Jesus Montero" Lavarnway get a start behind the plate ...
   21. Phil Coorey is a T-Shirt Salesman Posted: September 27, 2011 at 11:02 PM (#3939541)
Now he drops Crawford to ####### 8th - gives him more time to sit in the dugout and drop another turd on the team this year , the blind ####.

Can't wait to see what the bad inning from Bedard will be - it's not a Sox game unless a starter gives up 3 runs in a ####### inning sooner or later these days.
   22. Dan Posted: September 27, 2011 at 11:04 PM (#3939542)
Usually sooner rather than later.
   23. Benji Gil Gamesh Rises Posted: September 27, 2011 at 11:05 PM (#3939544)
Strategically these games are interesting (for both the Sox and Rays) -- they aren't elimination games, but they're about as close to one as you can get.
   24. Gamingboy Posted: September 27, 2011 at 11:09 PM (#3939550)
Strategically these games are interesting (for both the Sox and Rays) -- they aren't elimination games, but they're about as close to one as you can get.


Are you saying that they need to approach this game as if the other team will go 2-0 no matter what?
   25. Phil Coorey is a T-Shirt Salesman Posted: September 27, 2011 at 11:10 PM (#3939551)
Start the LOB count boys
   26. Phil Coorey is a T-Shirt Salesman Posted: September 27, 2011 at 11:11 PM (#3939552)
Why did they start the game , if they knew the rain was coming?

It's ####### pouring
   27. Hugh Jorgan Posted: September 27, 2011 at 11:11 PM (#3939554)
And here we go again. So here we are, dangling from the rope, feet still twitching(barely), is this the last gasp? Sure, I tried for the dramatic..it's really all I have left.
   28. Benji Gil Gamesh Rises Posted: September 27, 2011 at 11:12 PM (#3939556)
#24, no, I'm saying that Tito has to be ready to pull out most of the stops, but not necessarily all.
   29. Lassus Posted: September 27, 2011 at 11:12 PM (#3939557)
I'm listening to the dulcet tones of Gary Thorne.

Bad, Ortiz.
   30. Gamingboy Posted: September 27, 2011 at 11:12 PM (#3939558)
HUZZAH, ORIOLES!
   31. Phil Coorey is a T-Shirt Salesman Posted: September 27, 2011 at 11:13 PM (#3939559)
Great start
   32. Gamingboy Posted: September 27, 2011 at 11:13 PM (#3939560)
Meanwhile, in the NL: Philadelphia leads ATL 1-0
   33. Gamingboy Posted: September 27, 2011 at 11:15 PM (#3939563)
I have heard a Boston accent says "Behdahd". I can scratch another thing off my bucket list.
   34. Phil Coorey is a T-Shirt Salesman Posted: September 27, 2011 at 11:16 PM (#3939565)
At least someone knows how to get An-#######-Dino out
   35. The John Wetland Memorial Death (CoB) Posted: September 27, 2011 at 11:17 PM (#3939566)
CUBA GOODING CRAWFORD!!!
   36. Dan Posted: September 27, 2011 at 11:18 PM (#3939567)
That might be the best play Crawford has made all year.
   37. Lassus Posted: September 27, 2011 at 11:18 PM (#3939568)
Mets down 2-0 in the top of the first.

I need to make sure you guys have some perspective.

Or just a niggling migraine.
   38. Benji Gil Gamesh Rises Posted: September 27, 2011 at 11:18 PM (#3939569)
Fantastic awareness by that Sox fan to stay out of the way.
   39. Gamingboy Posted: September 27, 2011 at 11:19 PM (#3939570)
That reminded me, "Catching Hell" is on at 9. I think I'll watch that and come back to the game in commercial breaks.
   40. The John Wetland Memorial Death (CoB) Posted: September 27, 2011 at 11:19 PM (#3939571)
Wow, what is Markakis's facial hair called?

The "beneath-the-waterline"???
   41. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: September 27, 2011 at 11:21 PM (#3939573)
2 quick outs, still give up a run in the first inning.
   42. Dan Posted: September 27, 2011 at 11:21 PM (#3939575)
And let the pressing begin for the offense.
   43. Jay Seaver Posted: September 27, 2011 at 11:21 PM (#3939577)
Wunnerful.
   44. Lassus Posted: September 27, 2011 at 11:21 PM (#3939576)
Vlad hits, that's all he seems to do.
   45. Darren Posted: September 27, 2011 at 11:21 PM (#3939578)
Didn't see the Crawford play. Please describe.
   46. Gamingboy Posted: September 27, 2011 at 11:22 PM (#3939580)
ORIOLE MAGIC!
   47. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: September 27, 2011 at 11:22 PM (#3939581)
Benji, I get you frustrations with the negativity but...damn.
   48. Lassus Posted: September 27, 2011 at 11:24 PM (#3939583)
Didn't see the Crawford play. Please describe.

Running catch and reach pretty deep into the stands in foul territory at full speed for an impressive out.
   49. Benji Gil Gamesh Rises Posted: September 27, 2011 at 11:24 PM (#3939585)
S'all good Jose.
   50. Darren Posted: September 27, 2011 at 11:25 PM (#3939586)
cool. but we're losing.
   51. Gamingboy Posted: September 27, 2011 at 11:26 PM (#3939587)
Meanwhile, in St. Pete: 0-0.
   52. Dan Posted: September 27, 2011 at 11:27 PM (#3939588)
Way to answer back after the O's score, offense.
   53. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: September 27, 2011 at 11:27 PM (#3939589)
Please don't be another game where the offense refuses to score against a crappy pitcher.
   54. Benji Gil Gamesh Rises Posted: September 27, 2011 at 11:28 PM (#3939590)
And by that, I mean that I'm going to try my best not to go off on you guys going off. I will hopefully not be calling anyone a "faithless #####\" tonight, for example. :)
   55. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: September 27, 2011 at 11:28 PM (#3939593)
You know, for all my panic and ######## I don't know that I ever really believed they'd blow this but they really are aren't they? It's unreal.
   56. Phil Coorey is a T-Shirt Salesman Posted: September 27, 2011 at 11:29 PM (#3939594)
Orsillo has become useless at the basics of his job, much like the Red Sox
   57. Benji Gil Gamesh Rises Posted: September 27, 2011 at 11:29 PM (#3939595)
Huh, \"#####\" is a no-go, but "pussies" is fine? Good to know I guess.
   58. Phil Coorey is a T-Shirt Salesman Posted: September 27, 2011 at 11:30 PM (#3939596)
And by that, I mean that I'm going to try my best not to go off on you guys going off. I will hopefully not be calling anyone a "faithless #####\" tonight, for example. :)


Call me what you want , I deserve it.

But these guys really do suck a bag of dicks right now
   59. Lassus Posted: September 27, 2011 at 11:31 PM (#3939599)
That pitch looked rather hittable.
   60. Phil Coorey is a T-Shirt Salesman Posted: September 27, 2011 at 11:32 PM (#3939600)
That pitch looked rather hittable.


Par for the course with this rotation
   61. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: September 27, 2011 at 11:32 PM (#3939601)
Lassus how long does this depression last? An I going to feel like #### all winter or am i going to be able to function?
   62. Benji Gil Gamesh Rises Posted: September 27, 2011 at 11:34 PM (#3939602)
Hey serious question: how old are you guys? (approximately, if you prefer)
   63. Lassus Posted: September 27, 2011 at 11:36 PM (#3939607)
61.) I don't know yet

62.) 41
   64. Dan Posted: September 27, 2011 at 11:37 PM (#3939608)
Lavarnway!
   65. The John Wetland Memorial Death (CoB) Posted: September 27, 2011 at 11:38 PM (#3939609)
LAH-VAHN-WHEY!!!
   66. Benji Gil Gamesh Rises Posted: September 27, 2011 at 11:38 PM (#3939610)
I'm 41, and I'm curious if the more, umm, fiery amongst you tend to be younger or not really.

(Jesus Lassus, is there anything we don't line up on?)
   67. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: September 27, 2011 at 11:38 PM (#3939611)
Also 41, single, accountant and I enjoy long walks on the beach
   68. Lassus Posted: September 27, 2011 at 11:38 PM (#3939612)
Nice play, terrible slide.

YOU HAVE THE BEST CATCHER EVER.
   69. Jay Seaver Posted: September 27, 2011 at 11:38 PM (#3939613)
38 next week.


... Weird whatever-that-was to end the inning.
   70. The John Wetland Memorial Death (CoB) Posted: September 27, 2011 at 11:38 PM (#3939614)
[62] 40
   71. Famous Original Joe C Posted: September 27, 2011 at 11:38 PM (#3939615)
I'm 30.
   72. Spahn Insane Posted: September 27, 2011 at 11:40 PM (#3939616)
Hey serious question: how old are you guys? (approximately, if you prefer)

39. Since "approximately" would probably be 40 (with the 40th coming in 2 months), I prefer actual.
   73. Dan Posted: September 27, 2011 at 11:40 PM (#3939618)
Hey serious question: how old are you guys? (approximately, if you prefer)


27
   74. Joe Bivens, Minor Genius Posted: September 27, 2011 at 11:40 PM (#3939617)
You mean now?
   75. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: September 27, 2011 at 11:40 PM (#3939619)
I think being single is my driver. Not to get maudlin but the Sox fill up an empty house.

That should be a dead ball once it hits Davis and a third strike on the swing.
   76. Phil Coorey is a T-Shirt Salesman Posted: September 27, 2011 at 11:40 PM (#3939620)
36
   77. Lassus Posted: September 27, 2011 at 11:40 PM (#3939621)
I will tell you this: I will never stop hating Tom Glavine and Kenny Rogers. Ever. I will be angry at those ############# on my deathbed.

But I really tend to blame particular people rather than teams, and, also, I really am one of the more optimistic Mets' fans, so I might not be a good reference.
   78. Dan Posted: September 27, 2011 at 11:41 PM (#3939622)
Rays up 2-0 on a Zobrist homer.
   79. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: September 27, 2011 at 11:41 PM (#3939623)
I'm 27, FWIW.

You're really 41, Lassus? You look good for that. Although I don't know about a 41-year old man with all those earrings. Must be a Vassar thing.
   80. Cowboy Popup Posted: September 27, 2011 at 11:41 PM (#3939624)
Boy, that was a nasty throw by Lavarnway. And then Chris Davis humiliated himself. I've never actually seen someone K on a pitch that hit them.

The O's doing their best to not pull away!

And 26.
   81. Famous Original Joe C Posted: September 27, 2011 at 11:41 PM (#3939625)
Jose, do you live in the Boston area? We could go hatewatch some playoff games this year if you'd be up for it.
   82. Phil Coorey is a T-Shirt Salesman Posted: September 27, 2011 at 11:41 PM (#3939626)
Of course McDonald hits a rocket literally straight to the guy
   83. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: September 27, 2011 at 11:42 PM (#3939627)
26, soon to be 27.
   84. Phil Coorey is a T-Shirt Salesman Posted: September 27, 2011 at 11:42 PM (#3939628)
This is a ####### joke
   85. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: September 27, 2011 at 11:43 PM (#3939629)
Yup, Tewksbury. Sounds good, I was actually thing a ST meetup/hatefest might be fun for the playoffs.
   86. Spahn Insane Posted: September 27, 2011 at 11:43 PM (#3939630)
Britton's not fooling anybody.
   87. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: September 27, 2011 at 11:43 PM (#3939631)
Less than 30 pitches in three innings?
   88. Phil Coorey is a T-Shirt Salesman Posted: September 27, 2011 at 11:43 PM (#3939632)
Sox could easily be up 2 nil now
   89. Benji Gil Gamesh Rises Posted: September 27, 2011 at 11:43 PM (#3939633)
I asked because I'm sure I was a lot more angry/fiery when things went bad pre-2004, but I don't know how much of that to attribute to age and how much to, you know, pre-2004.
   90. Cowboy Popup Posted: September 27, 2011 at 11:43 PM (#3939634)
Man, they are teeing off on him. He's lucky that is the Sox first hit this inning.
   91. Famous Original Joe C Posted: September 27, 2011 at 11:44 PM (#3939635)
[85] Cool, I live in Jamaica Plain, but own a car, so I could potentially leave the city. Anyone else interested?
   92. Phil Coorey is a T-Shirt Salesman Posted: September 27, 2011 at 11:44 PM (#3939636)
Sorry 2-1
   93. ellsbury my heart at wounded knee Posted: September 27, 2011 at 11:44 PM (#3939637)
32. Scutaro's on fire, for what it's worth.
   94. Benji Gil Gamesh Rises Posted: September 27, 2011 at 11:45 PM (#3939640)
ELS ####### BURY!!!
   95. Dan Posted: September 27, 2011 at 11:45 PM (#3939639)
Runs!
   96. Jay Seaver Posted: September 27, 2011 at 11:45 PM (#3939641)
Jacoby Ellsbury intends to clinch a playoff spot all by his own self.
   97. ellsbury my heart at wounded knee Posted: September 27, 2011 at 11:45 PM (#3939642)
MVP?
   98. Famous Original Joe C Posted: September 27, 2011 at 11:45 PM (#3939643)
I've only actually met MCoA out of all of the Primates, and that was 8 years ago at one of those pizza feeds BPro used to do. Would be fun to put a few more faces to "names" after all these years.
   99. Gamingboy Posted: September 27, 2011 at 11:45 PM (#3939645)
Showalter stews in the dugout, plotting vengeance....
   100. Cowboy Popup Posted: September 27, 2011 at 11:45 PM (#3939646)
Wow, talk about coming up big. That'll be a nice clip for when they announce he won the MVP.
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