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Thursday, July 28, 2011

Royals (43-61) @ RedSox (64-38), Thursday, July 28, 2011, 1:35pm

KCR: Luke Hochevar (27, RHP, 6-8, 5.29)
BOS: Josh Beckett (31, RHP, 9-3, 2.07)

The Primer Chimp Posted: July 28, 2011 at 01:00 PM | 43 comment(s)
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   1. Steve Balboni's Personal Trainer Posted: July 28, 2011 at 05:12 PM (#3887683)
Just a quick note: a few nights ago, NESN asked Adrian Gonzalez if he studies catchers a whole lot, compared to the amount he studies pitchers. He said he actually does think about who the catcher is. Specifically, he said that Latin American catchers are far more likely to call for off-speed and breaking pitches early in the count than American-born catchers. He said American-born catchers value getting ahead in the count, and using the fastball to set up other pitches, while Latin catchers tend to believe in using non-fastball pitches to set up the fastball. He said it was a fact, you can count on it.

1) Is this true? Has this ever been studied?

2) Why would this be true? (The old axiom about Dominican players is that you "can't walk your way off the island", if applied to this discussion, would suggest Latin catchers are used to facing hitters more likely to be swinging early in the count.)

3) If this is measurably true, wouldn't Gonzalez not want to be talking about this to NESN? Wouldn't this be a pretty nice piece of information to have in your pocket?
   2. Dan Posted: July 28, 2011 at 06:18 PM (#3887740)
Can Ellsbury win the MVP? If he continues this torrid 2nd half he could catch up to Bautista with his edge in base running, defense, and position...
   3. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: July 28, 2011 at 06:21 PM (#3887742)
1. I've never seen such a study but it would be interesting.

2. I would guess the lack of supervision might account for it. My understanding is that the Latin kids play a LOT more unstructured baseball than American born kids who are little leaguers almost from the womb. Once kids learn to throw breaking stuff they WANT to throw breaking stuff (it's just cooler) so the catchers probably get a bit more in tune with calling junk.

3. My sense is that MLB players often share things publicly that seem like they would be better served keeping it quiet. In reality I think they think that it is just common knowledge and in fact it may be. It's possible that Gonzalez is ahead of the curve on this stuff but it's more likely that this is something of an open secret.
   4. Dan Posted: July 28, 2011 at 06:25 PM (#3887748)
Really was hoping to at least score Ells from third there.
   5. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: July 28, 2011 at 06:29 PM (#3887752)
Just looking at the WAR leaders I wonder if Miguel Cabrera might be set up for a nice run to the MVP. I think any Red Sox player is going to have a tough time because they are shaping up as having a bunch of guys with similar quality seasons. I can see a lot of articles in the vein "how valuable could Ellsbury be? Even without him they still had Gonzalez, Pedroia, etc..." At the same time we could have a rash of "it's an MVP, not player of the year" stuff regarding Bautista.

Cabrera could have a late season push where his numbers wind up what we expect AND he gets credit for leading the Tigers to a division title.
   6. Dan Posted: July 28, 2011 at 06:32 PM (#3887754)
So what starter would you guys like to see the Sox target? What starter do you think they WILL target? Who (if anyone) do you think they end up acquiring?
   7. Dan Posted: July 28, 2011 at 06:37 PM (#3887756)
Ugh. Beckett looked great in the first 3 innings, and now he's all of a sudden complete ####.
   8. Dan Posted: July 28, 2011 at 06:39 PM (#3887760)
What the ####, Sutton?
   9. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: July 28, 2011 at 06:40 PM (#3887761)
I'm not a big fan of any of the starters on the market. I think Jimenez is a guy who looks a lot better when seen infrequently and that watching him on a regular basis will evoke memories of Daisuke with lots of bases on balls and long frustrating outings. He won't be bad but I don't think he's a star.

The rest of the guys are just....eh. It's not that they're bad but I just think the asking price for guys like Bedard, Harden, Guthrie is going to be high enough to be frustrating.

Frankly, if forced to pick I feel like Guthrie is the guy. He is not great but he is perfectly serviceable and durable. My fear with guys like Bedard and Harden is that they will show up, throw 11 pitches and go on the DL.
   10. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: July 28, 2011 at 06:44 PM (#3887765)
What'd Sutton do?

And what the hell is Beckett doing? Did he forget how to pitch?
   11. Dan Posted: July 28, 2011 at 06:44 PM (#3887766)
I like Bedard. A second quality lefty in the rotation would be really nice.
   12. Dan Posted: July 28, 2011 at 06:47 PM (#3887769)
Sutton dropped a line drive in LF from Francoeur, leading to a run.

Wow. A bunt against a guy struggling like this? Sometimes the Royals show you why they are as bad as they are.
   13. Dan Posted: July 28, 2011 at 06:48 PM (#3887770)
Thank god for that bunt. That changed the inning.
   14. Dan Posted: July 28, 2011 at 07:09 PM (#3887785)
This would be a nice time to show us that you can still hit homers, Adrian.
   15. Dan Posted: July 28, 2011 at 07:25 PM (#3887802)
Damn, Escobar has some nice range. Did not think he'd get to that with where he started.
   16. Dan Posted: July 28, 2011 at 07:30 PM (#3887808)
It would be nice if Varitek didn't suck at blocking pitches in the dirt.
   17. Dan Posted: July 28, 2011 at 07:38 PM (#3887813)
Nice outing for Beckett outside of the one inning where he completely lost it.

Harden starting against the Rays. Maybe Sox are going after him. I'm watching the game, so we'll see how he looks.
   18. Dan Posted: July 28, 2011 at 07:40 PM (#3887815)
Pinch hit for Varitek please.
   19. plink Posted: July 28, 2011 at 07:46 PM (#3887820)
So, this is going to be one of "those" games. Off Navarro's bat, I thought that'd be at least high off the wall.
   20. Dan Posted: July 28, 2011 at 07:49 PM (#3887823)
19: Same here. In fact I yelled really loudly when Gordon caught it. #### the guy who operates the camera behind the plate for NESN too. He's been awful all year.
   21. plink Posted: July 28, 2011 at 07:53 PM (#3887828)
Stop walking Francoeur!
   22. Fancy Pants Handle doesn't need no water Posted: July 28, 2011 at 07:59 PM (#3887834)
Streak alive
   23. plink Posted: July 28, 2011 at 08:00 PM (#3887835)
And then there's Pedroia, who hits what I think is a shallow pop-up... I guess that's what I get for watching in a tiny corner of my laptop screen.
   24. Dan Posted: July 28, 2011 at 08:05 PM (#3887845)
The difference in this game is currently the run that scored after Sutton dropped the line drive from Frenchy.
   25. Phil Coorey is a T-Shirt Salesman Posted: July 28, 2011 at 08:07 PM (#3887846)
I thought it was a pop up as well , plink.

Glad you like 'David Comes to Life' - my wife can't stand it either - my almost 4 year old twins love it - they call it the 'angry songs'
   26. plink Posted: July 28, 2011 at 08:12 PM (#3887849)
Sutton looks terrible out there. If Crawford is healthy, we won't see any more of that, right?
   27. Dan Posted: July 28, 2011 at 08:20 PM (#3887858)
Need to have Reddick go yard to tie this up now!
   28. Dan Posted: July 28, 2011 at 08:21 PM (#3887860)
In all seriousness I don't love the matchup with Soria for Reddick if he hasn't seen him before. I love Reddick, but Soria's curve is really tough and it can't help to not have seen it before.
   29. Fancy Pants Handle doesn't need no water Posted: July 28, 2011 at 08:22 PM (#3887861)
That's the game. Sutton and Tek aren't going to do sh!t.
   30. Dan Posted: July 28, 2011 at 08:22 PM (#3887862)
Why the #### is Sutton hitting against Soria?
   31. Dan Posted: July 28, 2011 at 08:23 PM (#3887863)
Here comes Crawford to wave at three curves in the dirt.
   32. Phil Coorey is a T-Shirt Salesman Posted: July 28, 2011 at 08:23 PM (#3887864)
oh great it's Crawford
   33. Phil Coorey is a T-Shirt Salesman Posted: July 28, 2011 at 08:24 PM (#3887865)
oh great it's Crawford
   34. Dan Posted: July 28, 2011 at 08:25 PM (#3887867)
That fastball was literally down the middle, and all he could do was foul it off.
   35. Phil Coorey is a T-Shirt Salesman Posted: July 28, 2011 at 08:26 PM (#3887868)
no way - thats a homer everywhere else
   36. plink Posted: July 28, 2011 at 08:26 PM (#3887869)
Nice hit by Crawford, but it's that kind of game.
   37. Dan Posted: July 28, 2011 at 08:26 PM (#3887870)
Tease.
   38. Phil Coorey is a T-Shirt Salesman Posted: July 28, 2011 at 08:28 PM (#3887873)
oh well
   39. Textbook Editor Posted: July 28, 2011 at 08:28 PM (#3887874)
Gameday had Crawford's "out" a few feet into the stands. Weird.
   40. Dan Posted: July 28, 2011 at 08:29 PM (#3887877)
Why didn't Salty bat for Navarro there?
   41. Joel W Posted: July 28, 2011 at 08:31 PM (#3887879)
Because it was out anywhere but Fenway? That sucks, especially for Crawford who totally needed that.
   42. Fancy Pants Handle doesn't need no water Posted: July 28, 2011 at 08:34 PM (#3887882)
Gameday had Crawford's "out" a few feet into the stands. Weird.

GD always seems to have the initial dot they put up deeper than it shows up later on. Dunno why.
   43. Dan Posted: July 28, 2011 at 08:48 PM (#3887890)
Harden is no-hitting the Rays through 4 innings.

Let's trade for Harden!
   44. Dan Posted: July 28, 2011 at 09:37 PM (#3887928)
From Joe McDonald's twitter: Per ESPN stats dept.: Crawford's ball traveled 371 feet and would have been a home run and every MLB ballpark except for Fenway.

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