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Wednesday, August 31, 2011

Yankees (81-52) @ RedSox (82-52), Wednesday, August 31, 2011, 7:10pm

NYY: Phil Hughes (25, RHP, 4-4, 6.46)
BOS: Josh Beckett (31, RHP, 11-5, 2.43)

The Primer Chimp Posted: August 31, 2011 at 01:00 PM | 302 comment(s)
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201. Phil Coorey. Posted: September 01, 2011 at 01:25 AM (#3914098)

That looked like ball 4

202. ray james Posted: September 01, 2011 at 01:27 AM (#3914101)

####### Rapuano has been sooo inconsistent on the check tonight.

203. Cowboy Popup Posted: September 01, 2011 at 01:30 AM (#3914102)

Heckuva ball four there Phillip.

204. The John Wetland Memorial Death (CoB) Posted: September 01, 2011 at 01:30 AM (#3914103)

C'mon Phil, make them HIT IT at least.

205. Drew (Primakov, Gungho Iguanas) Posted: September 01, 2011 at 01:30 AM (#3914104)

I can't see how Bucknor could possibly be any worse than Rapuano.

206. NJ in NY Posted: September 01, 2011 at 01:32 AM (#3914105)

What the hell was Gardner thinking there?

207. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: September 01, 2011 at 01:32 AM (#3914106)

Lucky break for the Red Sox.

208. Dan Posted: September 01, 2011 at 01:32 AM (#3914107)

Playing shallow burned Gardner there.

209. Cowboy Popup Posted: September 01, 2011 at 01:32 AM (#3914108)

That was all kinds of suck. Not sure what Gardner was doing there.

210. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: September 01, 2011 at 01:32 AM (#3914109)

Gardner says, "you call that misplaying a ball down the line? This is misplaying a ball down the line."

211. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: September 01, 2011 at 01:32 AM (#3914112)

Most surprising thing: no fan touched the baseball!

212. ray james Posted: September 01, 2011 at 01:33 AM (#3914113)

Jeez, if Reddick had hit that, it would have been the first triple I've ever seen hit to left in Fenway.

213. The John Wetland Memorial Death (CoB) Posted: September 01, 2011 at 01:33 AM (#3914114)

[204] Not that THAT works ANY better ...

214. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: September 01, 2011 at 01:33 AM (#3914115)

Ok, that actually took a completely insane hop.

215. Ray (RDP)

Posted: September 01, 2011 at 01:33 AM (#3914116)

I'm at work so only following via gamecast.

What's the consensus? Did Beckett hit Teixeira on purpose? If so, fock.

216. Cowboy Popup Posted: September 01, 2011 at 01:34 AM (#3914117)

That hop was ridiculous.

217. ray james Posted: September 01, 2011 at 01:34 AM (#3914118)

Not sure what Gardner was doing the

I think he thought it was going to carom off the low wall and kick out into shallow left.

218. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: September 01, 2011 at 01:34 AM (#3914119)

Jeez, if Reddick had hit that, it would have been the first triple I've ever seen hit to left in Fenway.

I saw one where the ball hit the top of the scoreboard and bounced up and into center field. I think it was Millar, and I think it went for a triple.

219. Cowboy Popup Posted: September 01, 2011 at 01:34 AM (#3914120)

What's the consensus? Did Beckett hit Teixeira on purpose? If so, fock.

No, not even debatable. His curve bit hard and hit him in the back foot.

220. The John Wetland Memorial Death (CoB) Posted: September 01, 2011 at 01:35 AM (#3914121)

Phil Hughes ... NOT QUITE AS DREADFUL AS ... AJ Burnett.

Sigh.

221. Dan Posted: September 01, 2011 at 01:35 AM (#3914122)

What's the consensus? Did Beckett hit Teixeira on purpose? If so, fock.

Yeah, he hit him on the show on purpose.

222. Dan Posted: September 01, 2011 at 01:35 AM (#3914123)

The shoe too.

223. Cowboy Popup Posted: September 01, 2011 at 01:36 AM (#3914125)

I'd rather have this Hughes start for the rest of the season and in the playoffs than AJ.

224. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: September 01, 2011 at 01:37 AM (#3914126)

Well, it wasn't Millar. So I dunno.

225. Dan Posted: September 01, 2011 at 01:38 AM (#3914132)

Ellsbury hit a triple off of the monster like a week ago.

226. Ray (RDP)

Posted: September 01, 2011 at 01:38 AM (#3914133)

You deserve not to be able to edit-correct that, Dan :-)

227. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: September 01, 2011 at 01:38 AM (#3914135)

No one - not the announcers, not Teixeira, not Girardi - acted like the HBP was anything other than an accident. So not only was it obviously an accident, but better, it shouldn't cause any escalation.

228. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: September 01, 2011 at 01:40 AM (#3914136)

MVP

229. NJ in NY Posted: September 01, 2011 at 01:40 AM (#3914138)

####.

230. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: September 01, 2011 at 01:40 AM (#3914137)

Is that Ellsbury's first oppo HR? I've never seen him go deep to left, I don't think.

231. ray james Posted: September 01, 2011 at 01:40 AM (#3914140)

MVP!!!!

232. Cowboy Popup Posted: September 01, 2011 at 01:40 AM (#3914141)

Seriously? ####. And Hughes' ERA goes up tonight.

233. Dan Posted: September 01, 2011 at 01:40 AM (#3914142)

Sign that man to a $200M contract if that's what it takes. He cannot be allowed to hit free agency.

234. ray james Posted: September 01, 2011 at 01:41 AM (#3914143)

Coke to Biffster.

235. The John Wetland Memorial Death (CoB) Posted: September 01, 2011 at 01:41 AM (#3914144)

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOne.

236. Dan Posted: September 01, 2011 at 01:41 AM (#3914145)

It might not have been Ellsbury's first opposite field homer, but he doesn't hit many that way.

237. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: September 01, 2011 at 01:42 AM (#3914146)

######' Pedroia headfirst slide.

238. ray james Posted: September 01, 2011 at 01:42 AM (#3914147)

Wow. Great hustle.

Jeter has really slowed down. That's an out 4 yrs ago.

239. Cowboy Popup Posted: September 01, 2011 at 01:42 AM (#3914148)

Damnit.

240. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: September 01, 2011 at 01:42 AM (#3914149)

One thing I'll say for Pedroia - he slides into first the right way. The only way sliding into first makes any sense is if you hit the base at full stretch and at full speed.

On review, he was not at full stretch when his hand hit the base.

241. The John Wetland Memorial Death (CoB) Posted: September 01, 2011 at 01:42 AM (#3914150)

Man, some people are watching this game IN THE FUTURE!

Or, more likely, YES is on a ##### of a delay ...

242. Phil Coorey. Posted: September 01, 2011 at 01:42 AM (#3914151)

Oppo? for real?

243. ray james Posted: September 01, 2011 at 01:43 AM (#3914152)

It might not have been Ellsbury's first opposite field homer, but he doesn't hit many that way.

I was at the game a few weeks ago when he hit the walk-off to dead center. That was a genuine shot.

244. Ray (RDP)

Posted: September 01, 2011 at 01:43 AM (#3914153)

There's something to be said for following the game here instead of on game-cast.

245. Ray (RDP)

Posted: September 01, 2011 at 01:44 AM (#3914154)

Ellsbury has a chance to lead the Sox in HR.

246. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: September 01, 2011 at 01:44 AM (#3914155)

So, paying Ellsbury as a $15M player, you'd be looking at something like-

$9M, $12M, $15M, $15M, $15M - 5/66.

247. Phil Coorey. Posted: September 01, 2011 at 01:47 AM (#3914157)

Why is Beckett back out?

248. ray james Posted: September 01, 2011 at 01:47 AM (#3914158)

I'm kind of OK with sending Beckett out again, as long as he's on a very short leash.

249. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: September 01, 2011 at 01:47 AM (#3914159)

The question here will be whether Beckett is locating his fastball again. If he isn't, you gotta hook him before the rally starts.

250. Phil Coorey. Posted: September 01, 2011 at 01:47 AM (#3914160)

Only 103 - I thought he had more

251. ray james Posted: September 01, 2011 at 01:51 AM (#3914163)

Son of a gun- 1-2-3 inning.

252. Cowboy Popup Posted: September 01, 2011 at 01:51 AM (#3914164)

Not an impressive showing from the 2, 3, 4 hitters.

253. Benji Gil Gamesh Rises Posted: September 01, 2011 at 01:52 AM (#3914167)

MCoA, Els has one arb year left and then FA right? If so I don't see any chance at all that 5/66 gets it done.

254. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: September 01, 2011 at 01:53 AM (#3914168)

Just about all fastballs, too.

255. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: September 01, 2011 at 01:53 AM (#3914169)

Two arb years.

256. The John Wetland Memorial Death (CoB) Posted: September 01, 2011 at 01:54 AM (#3914170)

####### Tesh.

Hey, twatwaffle, why don't you install THIS, huh???

257. Guapo Posted: September 01, 2011 at 01:57 AM (#3914173)

Curt Schilling = mute button

258. Benji Gil Gamesh Rises Posted: September 01, 2011 at 01:57 AM (#3914174)

255, oh really? Fantastic, somehow I thought we only had him under control one more year.

259. The John Wetland Memorial Death (CoB) Posted: September 01, 2011 at 01:58 AM (#3914175)

Fantastic, it's LUIS AYALA time.

THAT, is a LOAD OF BOLLOCKS ...

260. Darren

Posted: September 01, 2011 at 01:58 AM (#3914176)

So will we see Beckett to start the 8th? I say 50/50.

I don't see Ells agreeing to 5/66. The problem is his next arb award puts him in "set for life 3 times over" range. From there, he might as well see hold out for the super-big money.

Why is is that the Sox always seem to time their rehab returns for 1 day after the Yankees leave town? Seems like you'd like to have Youkilis in this series.

(Okay, had to catch up.)

261. Cowboy Popup Posted: September 01, 2011 at 01:58 AM (#3914177)

Hey, twatwaffle, why don't you install THIS, huh???

It's kinda sad how abbreviated his peak was. 3 years of a 147 OPS+ then dropping into the 120s. Super lame for a first baseman with a $180 dollar contract.

262. ray james Posted: September 01, 2011 at 01:59 AM (#3914178)

God, Nomar just drips cliches.

263. Cowboy Popup Posted: September 01, 2011 at 02:00 AM (#3914180)

Heh, my cable box just told me baseball tonight will be on from 10-11. I bet they don't show a minute of it and when this game ends it goes straight to the 11 Sportscenter.

264. Darren

Posted: September 01, 2011 at 02:01 AM (#3914181)

Pedroia back at #2 is great, BTW. Taking .400 OBP out from in front of Gonzalez was nuts.

265. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: September 01, 2011 at 02:02 AM (#3914184)

And of course when Crawford does hit one well, it goes right into a DP.

266. Cowboy Popup Posted: September 01, 2011 at 02:02 AM (#3914185)

Nice play at first there. Still not worth the money.

267. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: September 01, 2011 at 02:05 AM (#3914187)

I don't see Ells agreeing to 5/66. The problem is his next arb award puts him in "set for life 3 times over" range. From there, he might as well see hold out for the super-big money.

I think that's probably right. So is the idea that you've gotta go eight years to keep him? 8/120 or something?

268. Darren

Posted: September 01, 2011 at 02:06 AM (#3914188)

God, Nomar just drips cliches.

I DON'T CARE, DO YOU HEAR ME! He could drip blood from his teeth and it would be alright. He was one of the most exciting players I've ever seen in my life and he was on the Red Sox! If it were not for stupid Jeter and tool ARod, he'd be a sure-fire HOF and talked about as one of the all-time greats whose career was cut short!

269. ray james Posted: September 01, 2011 at 02:06 AM (#3914190)

Brutal throw.

270. Darren

Posted: September 01, 2011 at 02:07 AM (#3914191)

I think that's probably right. So is the idea that you've gotta go eight years to keep him? 8/120 or something?

Shoot, I don't know. I think you've got to get up to $100 mil or so to turn his head.

Nice play by... Scutaro?

271. NJ in NY Posted: September 01, 2011 at 02:08 AM (#3914192)

If it were not for stupid Jeter and tool ARod, he'd be a sure-fire HOF and talked about as one of the all-time greats whose career was cut short!

Saw that Tejada was DFAd today. I would not have expected Jeter to be the last one standing of the great mid 90s SS crop.

272. ray james Posted: September 01, 2011 at 02:10 AM (#3914196)

Pedroia has unreal hands.

273. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: September 01, 2011 at 02:10 AM (#3914197)

Damn. Easily could be first-and-third now. Probably "should" be, in a sense.

274. Cowboy Popup Posted: September 01, 2011 at 02:10 AM (#3914198)

Well this inning is a whole bunch of not fun.

275. ray james Posted: September 01, 2011 at 02:11 AM (#3914201)

I would not have expected Jeter to be the last one standing of the great mid 90s SS crop.

Probably the only one who didn't juice up.

276. Darren

Posted: September 01, 2011 at 02:11 AM (#3914202)

Great to see Cowboy here, but I miss the days with a ton of Sox and Yankee fans.

277. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: September 01, 2011 at 02:12 AM (#3914203)

Dan Bard!

278. Cowboy Popup Posted: September 01, 2011 at 02:12 AM (#3914204)

I don't Chavez could get a hit off of Bard in 30 ABs. Maybe in 45.

279. Cowboy Popup Posted: September 01, 2011 at 02:14 AM (#3914205)

Great to see Cowboy here, but I miss the days with a ton of Sox and Yankee fans.

Good to see you too Darren! I was wondering if you make an appearance tonight.

280. ray james Posted: September 01, 2011 at 02:14 AM (#3914206)

I'm looking at the Pedroia and Scutaor. What can Scutaro do at SS defensively that Pedroia couldn't? Scutaro isn't any quicker than Pedroia, his hands aren't as good and Pedroia has at least as good an arm.

281. Dale Sams Posted: September 01, 2011 at 02:15 AM (#3914209)

No one said anything about Cano walking to first?

I have Schilling on mute, he sounds drunk.

282. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: September 01, 2011 at 02:16 AM (#3914210)

What can Scutaro do at SS defensively that Pedroia couldn't? Scutaro isn't any quicker than Pedroia, his hands aren't as good and Pedroia has at least as good an arm.

That's an interesting point. Going by the numbers, Pedroia has the sort of defensive stats you'd expect from an average to good shortstop. Did the Sox screw up by moving Pedroia off shortstop in AAA?

Credit to Rapuano there for correcting himself.

283. ray james Posted: September 01, 2011 at 02:16 AM (#3914211)

Lucky bounce for a GRD.

284. Darren

Posted: September 01, 2011 at 02:16 AM (#3914212)

I'm looking at the Pedroia and Scutaor.

I think ARod has a painting of a Scutaor on his ceiling.

285. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: September 01, 2011 at 02:16 AM (#3914214)

Yay!

286. Phil Coorey. Posted: September 01, 2011 at 02:17 AM (#3914213)

Captain!?!?

287. Benji Gil Gamesh Rises Posted: September 01, 2011 at 02:17 AM (#3914215)

ZOMBIE TEK!!!!

288. ray james Posted: September 01, 2011 at 02:17 AM (#3914216)

TeK!!!

289. NJ in NY Posted: September 01, 2011 at 02:17 AM (#3914217)

No one said anything about Cano walking to first?

Are you sure he was walking? Cano has no speed.

290. NJ in NY Posted: September 01, 2011 at 02:17 AM (#3914218)

That seals it. Off to watch some reality tv.

291. Cowboy Popup Posted: September 01, 2011 at 02:18 AM (#3914219)

No one said anything about Cano walking to first?

The pitch was so high that he was completely off balance after the swing. No way he was making it.

And that is good night for me. Enjoy the rest of the game all.

292. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: September 01, 2011 at 02:18 AM (#3914220)

Papelbon did the Daria reach for that homer into the pen.

293. Benji Gil Gamesh Rises Posted: September 01, 2011 at 02:18 AM (#3914221)

If it were not for stupid Jeter and tool ARod, he'd be a sure-fire HOF and talked about as one of the all-time greats whose career was cut short!

I could have sworn Al Reyes threw that pitch, not Jeter or ARod.

294. The John Wetland Memorial Death (CoB) Posted: September 01, 2011 at 02:20 AM (#3914223)

Well, good thing we're starting AJ Burnett in tomorrow's "rubber" game.

Yeah, *that's* gonna turn out well.

Ah, the treacherous cretins have begun another "Yankees Suck" chant, how lovely ...

295. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: September 01, 2011 at 02:23 AM (#3914225)

"Treacherous"?

296. ray james Posted: September 01, 2011 at 02:24 AM (#3914227)

I hate that too, CoB. Unfortunately, the Yankee fans do the same thing.

It's sooo juvenile.

297. Darren

Posted: September 01, 2011 at 02:27 AM (#3914231)

Heck yeah, Mo Vaughn too. That guy was just a great, awesome, fun player to have on the team.

Hey, what's the Daria reach? (I know that I must be outing myself as incredibly uncool.)

298. ray james Posted: September 01, 2011 at 02:27 AM (#3914232)

I was in Newport, RI a couple of weeks ago and in the window of a beachware shop, they had t-shirts of a little kid with a mischievous grin, wearing a Red Sox hat, and urinating on a Yankee logo. And for balance (and added profits), they had the same t-shirt with the logos reversed.

Sooo stupid.....

299. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: September 01, 2011 at 02:27 AM (#3914233)

Was that an overhand curveball from Papelbon?

I remember the curve was his second pitch when he was in the minors.

300. ray james Posted: September 01, 2011 at 02:28 AM (#3914234)

Papelbon has been so sharp. He looks great.

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