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   1. TVerik, who wonders what the hell is "Ansky" Posted: September 10, 2005 at 02:34 PM (#1610083)
Are you implying that the play wasn't clean? I wasn't part of the discussion here last night, but I thought it was 100% clean.
   2. SG Posted: September 10, 2005 at 02:37 PM (#1610089)
The play was completely clean, but we all know how powerful V-Tek is. kevin told us so.
   3. TVerik, who wonders what the hell is "Ansky" Posted: September 10, 2005 at 03:07 PM (#1610124)
Did anyone in last night's Chatter bring up the spectre of an unclean play? I was watching the game with a Sox fan, who looked at me expectantly, like I was so blinded by pinstripes that I'd accuse Varitek of cheating on that play.
   4. TVerik, who wonders what the hell is "Ansky" Posted: September 10, 2005 at 03:32 PM (#1610163)
I was just surprised that Posada blocked the plate on that play. He's normally at home watching TV when a throw from the outfield comes to the plate.
   5. The Original SJ Posted: September 10, 2005 at 03:34 PM (#1610166)
I believe SG is referring to a game chatter in which kevin said that Varitek would mop the floor with sheffield, etc.

I have no beef with the play, but I thought catchers don't do that to each other, there was a code or an oath or something.
   6. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: September 10, 2005 at 03:35 PM (#1610168)
I think it was a clean play 100%, Varitek knew he was dead (probably from the moment Sveum waved him, but that's a seperate isssue) and he had practically stopped by the time he came home. He ran into Posada and gave him a little shove.

Argh, I get the Nats game today, very frustrating
   7. TVerik, who wonders what the hell is "Ansky" Posted: September 10, 2005 at 03:43 PM (#1610178)
That was an All-Star horrible send by Sveum, by the way. Kaat spent twenty minutes apologizing for it because there were two outs, but you send the runner when there are two outs AND it looks like it's going to be somewhat close.
   8. VG Posted: September 10, 2005 at 03:44 PM (#1610182)
Go Yankees.
   9. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: September 10, 2005 at 03:47 PM (#1610185)
By the way, since there seemed to be some questions about it, Craig Hansen threw yesterday for the first time since August 26th, but still no timetable on when he can pitch in games again.
   10. TVerik, who wonders what the hell is "Ansky" Posted: September 10, 2005 at 03:48 PM (#1610186)
*TVerik's mental stroll through yesterday's game*

Also, the Renteria throw made me laugh out loud. Perhaps he saw a gopher he wanted to kill?

And when Posada hit the bat with the return throw to the pitcher (which I can't remember ever seeing before), was that ball live?
   11. TVerik, who wonders what the hell is "Ansky" Posted: September 10, 2005 at 03:48 PM (#1610187)
A timetable emboldens the enemy ligaments, RB.
   12. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: September 10, 2005 at 03:53 PM (#1610194)
Posada hit Durazo (his hands, I think) on a return throw to the pitcher earlier this year, so he obviously has some issues with that. I have no idea if the ball is live or what
   13. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: September 10, 2005 at 04:00 PM (#1610216)
The fact that United could only get a point out of the Manchester derby is an inauspicious start to my day
   14. The Original SJ Posted: September 10, 2005 at 04:04 PM (#1610223)
Where were all the Sox fans last night like what about Darren and Bivens?

Or do they not chat anymore?

You know, that chatter was bizarre, lot of the regulars were missing from both sides.
   15. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: September 10, 2005 at 04:11 PM (#1610237)
I think it was a clean play given baseball precedent, but I'm on the record as saying I think it's stupid that a baserunner can plow into the catcher like that period. They don't seem to be allowed to do it at any other base. Where in the rulebook does it say that one of the weapons with which a baserunner can avail himself is bashing into a fielder in an attempt to knock the ball out of his hands? Like I said, I don't blame Varitek because that's how baseball is played, but I think it's stupid.
   16. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: September 10, 2005 at 04:17 PM (#1610246)
When did MLB start making all the press notes avalible? They're very interesting. Today, for example, is the anniversary of Pedro's 17K game aganist the Yankees back in 1999.

And here's one that stunned me, since they dropped to 11-19, the Yankees have the second best record in basball, 68-42 (.618)
   17. TVerik, who wonders what the hell is "Ansky" Posted: September 10, 2005 at 04:19 PM (#1610252)
I figured it was OK because technically Posada doesn't have the right to block Tek's route to the plate. So Tek could do most anything he wanted in order to score.
   18. The Original SJ Posted: September 10, 2005 at 04:25 PM (#1610261)
Why are catchers allowed to block the plate? This all could have been fixed years and years ago.

Really, it would be the best for everyone involved, the player would have to guess which side to slide on, the catcher could then decoy where the throw was coming from.

Then you would avoid the jackassery that is Darren Erstad injecting his "punting background" into a ####### baseball game.
   19. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: September 10, 2005 at 04:29 PM (#1610267)
Athough whoever does the Boston Press Notes could use some proofreading (and maybe fact checkings) as Curt Schilling's career high for Ks in a game apparently came on July 30th, 1997 against Oakland while he was pitching for the Yankees.

I think that's left over from Wells' notes yesterday
   20. TVerik, who wonders what the hell is "Ansky" Posted: September 10, 2005 at 04:36 PM (#1610280)
the catcher could then decoy where the throw was coming from.

Unless my visualization has serious holes, isn't the pointy part of the plate always safe from throws? Unless a wild pitch happens and the catcher retrieves the ball, throwing to the pitcher covering.
   21. Phil Coorey. Posted: September 10, 2005 at 04:50 PM (#1610303)
I was in chatter yesterday sj. I have decided not to watch the next two games however. I just get so angry when these two muppet teams play each other. I am opting for sleep once the bar shuts in 10 minutes.
   22. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: September 10, 2005 at 05:13 PM (#1610339)
Do the Yankees have two days of Flaherty to look forward to, what with the Big Unit pitching tomorrow?

Good god
   23. RobertMachemer Posted: September 10, 2005 at 05:18 PM (#1610345)
Do I, as a Los Angeles resident, have to drive all the way to Sonny McLean's to watch this game? So far as I can tell, it's blacked out on stations I get. (Stupid Dodgers and Angels).
   24. rLr Is King Of The Romans And Above Grammar Posted: September 10, 2005 at 05:23 PM (#1610354)
Do the Yankees have two days of Flaherty to look forward to, what with the Big Unit pitching tomorrow?

Good god


Hey, don't complain. At least we'll get too excellently called games.

Do I, as a Los Angeles resident, have to drive all the way to Sonny McLean’s to watch this game? So far as I can tell, it’s blacked out on stations I get. (Stupid Dodgers and Angels).

I think it's pretty obvious what your first mistake was.
   25. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: September 10, 2005 at 05:26 PM (#1610362)
Giambi up to third in the line-up, that's nice to see
   26. TVerik, who wonders what the hell is "Ansky" Posted: September 10, 2005 at 05:28 PM (#1610364)
Posada hit a home run and blocked the plate yesterday. Really, you have to "ice" him now.
   27. TVerik, who wonders what the hell is "Ansky" Posted: September 10, 2005 at 05:29 PM (#1610369)
By the way, I'd have given out some serious odds before the season if anyone wanted to bet that Giambi would hit fourth and third for the Yankees in 2005.
   28. rLr Is King Of The Romans And Above Grammar Posted: September 10, 2005 at 05:30 PM (#1610371)
The Foc nitwits say Posada is out today because he's sore from the collision.

Why is Tony G leading off against a righty?
   29. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: September 10, 2005 at 05:30 PM (#1610372)
A lot more of the regular Yankee Chatters here today, but no sign of the Sox fans.

At least Ortiz's HR will only be a solo shot
   30. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: September 10, 2005 at 05:32 PM (#1610377)
I think you could've gotten some serious odds on Giambi posting a nearly 1.000 OPS
   31. villainx Posted: September 10, 2005 at 05:33 PM (#1610380)
Why the hell did the Twins let Ortiz go?
   32. rLr Is King Of The Romans And Above Grammar Posted: September 10, 2005 at 05:33 PM (#1610381)
I'm only here until I leave for work. Hopefully, by then Chacon won't have given up too many runs, while Shilling has gotten lit up again.

Oritz is a good hitter. Listening to the Fox guys go on about him is almost as bad as McCarver talking about Jeter.
   33. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: September 10, 2005 at 05:33 PM (#1610382)
Manny being due frightens me
   34. rLr Is King Of The Romans And Above Grammar Posted: September 10, 2005 at 05:34 PM (#1610385)
Why the hell did the Twins let Ortiz go?

Because he was arbitration elligible and constantly injured.
   35. TVerik, who wonders what the hell is "Ansky" Posted: September 10, 2005 at 05:35 PM (#1610386)
Why the hell did the Twins let Ortiz go?

In fairness to them, he had yet to discover the magic Twinkies that contained his power while he was in Minny.
   36. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: September 10, 2005 at 05:35 PM (#1610388)
Chacon doesn't seem able to throw strikes today, that's bad
   37. rLr Is King Of The Romans And Above Grammar Posted: September 10, 2005 at 05:36 PM (#1610395)
Manny is good.
   38. salajander Posted: September 10, 2005 at 05:36 PM (#1610396)
Fahrvegnugen.
   39. Phil Coorey. Posted: September 10, 2005 at 05:36 PM (#1610398)
Glad I stayed up
   40. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: September 10, 2005 at 05:36 PM (#1610400)
Gee, that wasn't predictable
   41. villainx Posted: September 10, 2005 at 05:36 PM (#1610401)
Manny being due frightens me

On cue.
   42. Benji Gil Gamesh VII - The Opt-Out Awakens Posted: September 10, 2005 at 05:37 PM (#1610402)
I assume that was a strike?

[Can't watch the game in DC either. Grumble...]
   43. Josh Posted: September 10, 2005 at 05:37 PM (#1610403)
Why is Tony G leading off against a righty?

Not too many other options with Damon out. (I assume b/c of his ailing shoulder?)
   44. rLr Is King Of The Romans And Above Grammar Posted: September 10, 2005 at 05:38 PM (#1610407)
That, of course, is why you don't walk David Ortiz after you have him 0-2.

The Fox guys don't seem to grasp park effects.
   45. TVerik, who wonders what the hell is "Ansky" Posted: September 10, 2005 at 05:38 PM (#1610408)
It would be very impressive if the Sox led the league in scoring for three consecutive years. In the expansion era.
   46. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: September 10, 2005 at 05:39 PM (#1610409)
Chacon can't put anyone away
   47. Phil Coorey. Posted: September 10, 2005 at 05:39 PM (#1610410)
I am not tired which is wierd. Lu is at a nightclub dancing which is scary...
   48. Josh Posted: September 10, 2005 at 05:39 PM (#1610411)
Chacon will be over 30 pitches in the first, and may get closer to 40 if he doesn't get Tek out.
   49. rLr Is King Of The Romans And Above Grammar Posted: September 10, 2005 at 05:40 PM (#1610415)
My call for final score in this game is 9-6. Not wure which team will be nine and which team will be six. I have little faith in either starter.
   50. Psychedelic Red Pants Posted: September 10, 2005 at 05:41 PM (#1610417)
The Fox guys don’t seem to grasp park effects.

What'd they say? (I'm getting the Angels/Chisox game)
   51. The Ghost of Sox Fans Past Posted: September 10, 2005 at 05:41 PM (#1610418)
That home plate bump barely qualified as a collision. If that's really why Jorge is out, he must have jammed a wrist or something.

Now that Manny's come through, I am going to alter my handle for awhile.
   52. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: September 10, 2005 at 05:42 PM (#1610423)
They're going to need to light Schilling, 'cause Chacon doesn't have it
   53. rLr Is King Of The Romans And Above Grammar Posted: September 10, 2005 at 05:43 PM (#1610424)
A lineup in which Robinson Cano is, rightfully, the number 7 batter is not a strong lineup. Hurry back, Gary.
   54. Phil Coorey. Posted: September 10, 2005 at 05:43 PM (#1610426)
A 'house money' quote on FOX!!!
   55. Benji Gil Gamesh VII - The Opt-Out Awakens Posted: September 10, 2005 at 05:43 PM (#1610429)
I'd say the likelihood of Schilling getting pounded >> Schilling tossing a gem.
   56. villainx Posted: September 10, 2005 at 05:43 PM (#1610430)
In fairness to them, he had yet to discover the magic Twinkies that contained his power while he was in Minny.

I thought they just didn't believe in him and platooned him too much, and wanted to play Mientkiewicz instead at 1st. Maybe it was injury, but it was a matter of ignoring his very good HR rates and keeping him on the bench too much.

He was and still is the power threat the Sota's have been lacking since for a long time.
   57. TVerik, who wonders what the hell is "Ansky" Posted: September 10, 2005 at 05:44 PM (#1610433)
First out of the bullpen = Leiter?
   58. TVerik, who wonders what the hell is "Ansky" Posted: September 10, 2005 at 05:46 PM (#1610438)
What did FOX say about House Money, Phil?
   59. rLr Is King Of The Romans And Above Grammar Posted: September 10, 2005 at 05:46 PM (#1610440)
Why did Schilling bleach his hair? It's terrible.

This season would not be a totally disgraceful one for Bernie to retire after.

That's a bad idea, Curt.
   60. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: September 10, 2005 at 05:47 PM (#1610443)
Oh, that was some ####### inning
   61. Paul M Hates Krispy Kreme Posted: September 10, 2005 at 05:47 PM (#1610444)
Sportsline is reporting a "jammed shoulder", BTW.
   62. Josh Posted: September 10, 2005 at 05:47 PM (#1610445)
*blinks*

1-2-3? First?

I don't recall a 1-2-3 first in any of Schilling's '05 starts, including the minors.
   63. villainx Posted: September 10, 2005 at 05:47 PM (#1610446)
I’d say the likelihood of Schilling getting pounded >> Schilling tossing a gem.

I think it's part of Schilling's plan to shutout the Yankees, after sucking it up in his last couple of starts.

Giambi swinging at the first pitch? Did that happen?
   64. rLr Is King Of The Romans And Above Grammar Posted: September 10, 2005 at 05:47 PM (#1610447)
McCarver was too enthralled by Schilling to even suck up to Jeter. I am amazed. With those nitwits calling the game, I think I'm glad I have work at 3.
   65. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: September 10, 2005 at 05:48 PM (#1610449)
8 pitches? 8 ####### pitches? Jesus, I may have to start real early today
   66. Paul M Hates Krispy Kreme Posted: September 10, 2005 at 05:48 PM (#1610450)
For Posada, that is. I have no idea what a jammed shoulder is, but it sounds like it hurts.
   67. The Ghost of Sox Fans Past Posted: September 10, 2005 at 05:48 PM (#1610451)
Yeah, like rLr said; use that leather thing on your other hand, Curt. Unless you want to add The Bloody Fingernail to your memorabilia collection.
   68. Josh Posted: September 10, 2005 at 05:49 PM (#1610454)
Sportsline is reporting a “jammed shoulder”, BTW.

For Damon? He jammed it in a dive back to second, iirc, during the Halos series.
   69. salajander Posted: September 10, 2005 at 05:50 PM (#1610456)
Wow, Chacon's got no control today.
   70. villainx Posted: September 10, 2005 at 05:50 PM (#1610458)
The only question is when he will start boning her.
   71. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: September 10, 2005 at 05:50 PM (#1610460)
yawn; same old new Yankees. Today's game will mark the end of their divisional hopes. Let's hope Cleveland loses.
   72. covelli chris p Posted: September 10, 2005 at 05:50 PM (#1610462)
   73. Paul M Hates Krispy Kreme Posted: September 10, 2005 at 05:50 PM (#1610463)
Damn. Manny hit quite a bomb. They just showed it on the freakin' ChiSox-Halos game. (::grumbles::)
   74. Phil Coorey. Posted: September 10, 2005 at 05:50 PM (#1610464)
I think it’s part of Schilling’s plan to shutout the Yankees, after sucking it up in his last couple of starts.

Joking right??!!
   75. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: September 10, 2005 at 05:51 PM (#1610466)
That's right, I have switched over to EastEnders
   76. villainx Posted: September 10, 2005 at 05:52 PM (#1610467)
This broadcast is so annoying. Why the constant shots of Manny and Damon, especially when they aren't talking about either of them!
   77. Paul M Hates Krispy Kreme Posted: September 10, 2005 at 05:52 PM (#1610470)
Chacon is turning back into Shawn Chacon...gah. This is worse than Sturtze morphing away from Sturtze 2.0.
   78. Phil Coorey. Posted: September 10, 2005 at 05:53 PM (#1610472)
Coorey must be sound asleep right now, unless Lu is keeping him awake.

She is dancing the night away and yes kevin, I am barely awake!!
   79. rLr Is King Of The Romans And Above Grammar Posted: September 10, 2005 at 05:53 PM (#1610473)
That’s right, I have switched over to EastEnders

Not just a soap, but an English soap? Come on, fella.

Go White Sox.
   80. covelli chris p Posted: September 10, 2005 at 05:53 PM (#1610474)
   81. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: September 10, 2005 at 05:54 PM (#1610477)
Not just a soap, but an English soap? Come on, fella.

I only watch British soaps--and Neighbours I guess--I probably saw more of those in a week in London last year than I have of American soaps in my lifetime
   82. villainx Posted: September 10, 2005 at 05:54 PM (#1610478)
Joking right??!!

The conspiracy part, maybe. The Yankees being capable of being shutout, oh it's quite possible.
   83. covelli chris p Posted: September 10, 2005 at 05:54 PM (#1610479)
i may have mentioned this before, but kapler sucks.
   84. rLr Is King Of The Romans And Above Grammar Posted: September 10, 2005 at 05:55 PM (#1610480)
Gabe Kapler is in no position to complain about close ball-strike calls. That swing for strike three was awful.

I wonder who was the worst player to have a 25+ game hitting streak.
   85. Phil Coorey. Posted: September 10, 2005 at 05:55 PM (#1610481)
Kapler is so ###### shithouse
   86. rLr Is King Of The Romans And Above Grammar Posted: September 10, 2005 at 05:56 PM (#1610483)
I was certain Lawton would misplay that single into three bases. He is the worst outfielder I have ever seen. Worse than Womack and Old Bernie combined.
   87. Phil Coorey. Posted: September 10, 2005 at 05:57 PM (#1610485)
The conspiracy part, maybe. The Yankees being capable of being shutout, oh it’s quite possible.

Nice relpy. :)
   88. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: September 10, 2005 at 05:57 PM (#1610486)
Come on Chacon, finish this inning up already
   89. villainx Posted: September 10, 2005 at 05:58 PM (#1610489)
I was certain Lawton would misplay that single into three bases. He is the worst outfielder I have ever seen. Worse than Womack and Old Bernie combined.

Coincidence? I never think so.
   90. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: September 10, 2005 at 05:58 PM (#1610490)
55 pitches in two innings. Jesus.
   91. Paul S Posted: September 10, 2005 at 05:58 PM (#1610492)
bwahahaha A-Rod's girlish cover-up made the Coming Up video.
   92. Curse of the Graffanino (dfan) Posted: September 10, 2005 at 05:59 PM (#1610494)
54 pitches through 2 innings.

The Sox seem to often knock out the starter early and then flail against the middle relievers, though.
   93. rLr Is King Of The Romans And Above Grammar Posted: September 10, 2005 at 05:59 PM (#1610495)
At least the worst Ortiz and Ramirez can put up next inning is two runs.
   94. rLr Is King Of The Romans And Above Grammar Posted: September 10, 2005 at 06:00 PM (#1610499)
Remember when Schilling came in to relieve against Sheffield and Rodriguez? That was cool.
   95. Captain Supporter Posted: September 10, 2005 at 06:01 PM (#1610501)
Lawton is unacceptable. I would have started Crosby. At least he can catch the ball.
   96. Psychedelic Red Pants Posted: September 10, 2005 at 06:01 PM (#1610502)
So, is Notre Dame "for real?"
   97. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: September 10, 2005 at 06:01 PM (#1610503)
Would it kill some of these guys to take some pitches? I mean, my god. Here's a man with possiblt fatigue issues and they've let him throw 10 pitches to get 4 outs
   98. Phil Coorey. Posted: September 10, 2005 at 06:02 PM (#1610504)
Gotta go boys take care and have a good day
   99. rLr Is King Of The Romans And Above Grammar Posted: September 10, 2005 at 06:03 PM (#1610506)
I thought Schilling couldn't throw the splitter anymore.
   100. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: September 10, 2005 at 06:03 PM (#1610507)
Would it kill some of these guys to take some pitches? I mean, my god. Here's a man with possiblt fatigue issues and they've let him throw 10 pitches to get 4 outs
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