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   1. Bernal Diaz has an angel on his shoulder Posted: September 07, 2005 at 10:02 PM (#1603066)
Nice intro Matt.
   2. Tony H. Posted: September 07, 2005 at 11:04 PM (#1603207)
Jhonny with the day off. That is probably smart.
   3. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: September 07, 2005 at 11:26 PM (#1603285)
If he's not going to play, I certainly hope Garko's enjoying the big league meal money.

Bernal, Veee, anyone else in the Cleveland area, you guys up for a meetup next Monday or Tuesday?
   4. MLB Posted: September 07, 2005 at 11:28 PM (#1603289)
If it's Monday, I might be able to join. I'm in town over the weekend and leave Tuesday morning.
   5. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: September 07, 2005 at 11:30 PM (#1603296)
If it’s Monday, I might be able to join. I’m in town over the weekend and leave Tuesday morning.

Cool, I'm taking a few days off and will be at all three Oakland games. If you want, e-mail me through my profile and we can try to figure out where to meet.
   6. Tony H. Posted: September 07, 2005 at 11:43 PM (#1603344)
Yankees getting beat 4-0 and Sheffield left the game with a leg injury. Tonight could be the night, provided I didn't just jinx us.
   7. Tony H. Posted: September 07, 2005 at 11:43 PM (#1603350)
This Colon guy sucks balls and the Indians are supah-sweet.
   8. More Dewey is Always Good Posted: September 07, 2005 at 11:44 PM (#1603355)
Damn you, Detroit Tigers.

Damn you to Hell.
   9. Tony H. Posted: September 07, 2005 at 11:45 PM (#1603361)
Why are the White Sox fans rooting against the Indians?
   10. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: September 07, 2005 at 11:45 PM (#1603362)
Caligula's favorite pitcher isn't really getting it done out there, is he?
   11. More Dewey is Always Good Posted: September 07, 2005 at 11:49 PM (#1603375)
Why are the White Sox fans rooting against the Indians?

I actually hope they win the Wild Card, but I won't be comfortable until the Sox clinch. I have nightmares about the Indians going 20-4 down the stretch and edging a flagging White Sox team on the last day of the season.

Remember, I'm a White Sox fan - the worst-case scenario is probably what'll happen.
   12. Tony H. Posted: September 07, 2005 at 11:51 PM (#1603385)
There is just no way the Indians catch the White Sox. It's not happening.

Though I understand your pessimistic sentiments, being a Cleveland sports fan myself.
   13. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: September 07, 2005 at 11:51 PM (#1603386)
That would be fun to watch: a down-to-the-wire pennant race between two teams whose fans expect the wheels to go flying off the bus at the worst possible moment.

Except Bernal...I've never met such a positive, confident Cleveland sports fan.
   14. Urban Faber Posted: September 07, 2005 at 11:52 PM (#1603390)
That would be fun to watch: a down-to-the-wire pennant race between two teams whose fans expect the wheels to go flying off the bus at the worst possible moment.

Even better - an ALCS.
   15. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: September 07, 2005 at 11:54 PM (#1603394)
Even better - an ALCS.

The very thought of the Indians making it to the ALCS is simultaneously fantastic and panic attack-inducing.
   16. My guest will be Jermaine Allensworth Posted: September 07, 2005 at 11:57 PM (#1603401)
Back in the Ramirez-Belle days, I used to despise the Indians fans that came to Comiskey. Consequently, the Indians were my least favorite team.

But I admire the work Shapiro is doing, and you guys are alright in my book, so I've softened my stance considerably.
   17. More Dewey is Always Good Posted: September 08, 2005 at 12:16 AM (#1603456)
By the way, the Tribe has got to be the favorites for the division in 2006. The Twins seem pretty flawed, and the White Sox are a one-year wonder.

I knew there was a lot of potential in Cleveland, but they have really progressed a lot faster than I thought they would.
   18. Bernal Diaz has an angel on his shoulder Posted: September 08, 2005 at 12:20 AM (#1603467)
Except Bernal...I’ve never met such a positive, confident Cleveland sports fan.

only with the Indians. I am always negative when it comes to the Browns.


As for the meetup, let me know where and when and I will see what I can do.
   19. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: September 08, 2005 at 12:25 AM (#1603480)
As for the meetup, let me know where and when and I will see what I can do.

I'm consulting with Veee as we speak. (as we type?)
   20. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: September 08, 2005 at 12:27 AM (#1603485)
Good lord, if I have to hear COUNT THE CASH WITH RICK NASH one more time, I think I'm going to completely snap.
   21. Bernal Diaz has an angel on his shoulder Posted: September 08, 2005 at 12:31 AM (#1603494)
Ok keep in mind that Cleveland is about an hour away and I work until 6.
   22. Tim D Posted: September 08, 2005 at 12:33 AM (#1603498)
As a Tiger fan I guess I'm supposed to be down on Chicago and Cleveland both. But as a long-suffering fan I feel for you guys. I'd like nothing better than a Sox/Tribe ALCS. Red Sox and Yanks both watching from the sidelines. Please!

Looks like that Vance Wilson homer is all the kitties will muster today. Man do they stink right now.
   23. Tony H. Posted: September 08, 2005 at 12:39 AM (#1603511)
I like it better when CC is pitching well.

Carl Willis must be an awesome pitching coach. What he has done with the staff this year is quite impressive.
   24. Ben Posted: September 08, 2005 at 12:41 AM (#1603515)
WRT Garko again, I loved Wedge's comment in the PD: "It would be hard to do that with Jose Hernandez, Ben Broussard and Jeff Liefer here."

Uh, what? Liefer never plays, Broussard and Hernandez play pretty much a straight platoon and Hernandez has been absolutely horrible this season.
   25. Veee Posted: September 08, 2005 at 12:41 AM (#1603516)
Monday sounds good. I can pick Tony up from the airport, if need be.
   26. Tony H. Posted: September 08, 2005 at 12:42 AM (#1603519)
I lived in Ann Arbor in '02 and '03, and have a soft spot in my heart for the Tigers. I loved being able to sit back and listen to Ernie Harwell every night.
   27. PhillyBooster Posted: September 08, 2005 at 12:44 AM (#1603526)
So, is Sabathia good now? Does anyone know what changed from the first half the season.

I've got a soft spot for Sabathia because when I got heavily into following minor league ball in 2000, I saw him pitch in an Eastern League game for Akron at Bowie. It was about 103 degrees, and he pitched a complete game blanking the BaySox by a score of something like 12-0. (Well, he didn't have anything to do with the 12, but still . . .) He looked about twice as big as anyone else on the field.

I remember thinking, "Wow, he's going to be a major leaguer soon." So, he is the first bona fide All-Star for whom I can say "I saw him when."
   28. Veee Posted: September 08, 2005 at 12:47 AM (#1603534)
I seem to recall reading in the paper that CC and Carl Willis determined he was tipping his pitches
   29. Tony H. Posted: September 08, 2005 at 12:47 AM (#1603535)
Monday sounds good. I can pick Tony up from the airport, if need be.

Oh, I appreciate it, but it's only a 16 1/2 hour drive. I'll only be able to stay for 5 or 10 minutes, though.
   30. PhillyBooster Posted: September 08, 2005 at 12:47 AM (#1603536)
Speaking of players who don't seem to suck anymore . . .

Casey Blake?
   31. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: September 08, 2005 at 12:48 AM (#1603540)
Sabathia's command has improved over the last month or so, for whatever reason. He sure seems to have become a good pitcher again.

I think the first All-Star I can clearly remember seeing in the minors is Mike Mussina. I saw Belle before Moose, but Mussina became an all-star more quickly.

Veee, where's the best place to meet?
   32. Veee Posted: September 08, 2005 at 12:51 AM (#1603547)
Tony,
Ernie can meet you halfway, I'm pretty sure.
   33. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: September 08, 2005 at 12:52 AM (#1603549)
Oh, I appreciate it, but it’s only a 16 1/2 hour drive. I’ll only be able to stay for 5 or 10 minutes, though.

A few years back, I drove Columbus to OKC non-stop, slept for about five hours, and spent the next day going OKC to Tucson.

Man. That sucked.

With that in mind, we've got a spare room if you need to stop in Columbus. That's about halfway, right?
   34. Tony H. Posted: September 08, 2005 at 12:53 AM (#1603552)
I saw Sammy Sosa play for the Oklahoma City 89ers in the late '90's. Either he or Juan Gonzalez has to be the first all-star I saw play.

I was obsessed with Kevin Reimer as a kid, though. I was sure he'd be a huge star. Luis Medina, too, but I never saw him play.
   35. Ben Posted: September 08, 2005 at 12:54 AM (#1603556)
I saw Jeremy Guthrie's first AAA start and I told my friend that he would never cut it in the majors. He simply doesn't ever make people miss.

I know, not as good as Belle or Mussina or Sabathia, but it's the only minor league game I've ever been to.
   36. Bernal Diaz has an angel on his shoulder Posted: September 08, 2005 at 12:56 AM (#1603564)
I saw Manny and Jim Thome play for the Canton-Akron Indians in 1991 or 1992 I think. Maybe 1993.

I have seen Grady, Vmart, Jhonny, CC, Travis Hafner (rehab) and a buch of others with the Aeros.
   37. Tony H. Posted: September 08, 2005 at 12:57 AM (#1603569)
A few years back, I drove Columbus to OKC non-stop, slept for about five hours, and spent the next day going OKC to Tucson.

I've done the drive from OKC to Phoenix. I can't imagine going all the way to Tuscon after driving from Columbus the day before. The stretch from OKC to Flagstaff along I-40 has got to be the most boring drive in the country. Albuquerque seems like the only thing along the way. I guess Amarillo, but that is the worst town I've ever been in.
   38. Veee Posted: September 08, 2005 at 12:58 AM (#1603572)
It seems to me that most people meet on the plaza between Jacobs Field and the Gund. There are always lots of people just sitting there, I assume they're waiting for their friends.

At the corner of Ontario and Huron, in front of Gund, there are these giant marble letters that spell out "Let's Meet Here" or something like that. That location might work.

Really, I don't know what the best place is. Any landmark could work. e.g Bob Feller statue
   39. Bernal Diaz has an angel on his shoulder Posted: September 08, 2005 at 12:59 AM (#1603574)
Oh, and Vlad. I saw Vlad Guerro play for Harrisburg. I remember that he hit a HR at the old Thurman Munson stadium that smashe a car's window.
   40. Bernal Diaz has an angel on his shoulder Posted: September 08, 2005 at 01:02 AM (#1603583)
Meet at the Batter's Eye. I heard it is cool.
   41. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: September 08, 2005 at 01:03 AM (#1603586)
Seems to me the Feller statue is the way to go. There are so many people in that plaza that I have no idea how we'd find each other.

I'll e-mail someone with the keys, have them post a thread about the meetup.

BTW, I'll be wearing a hat much like this one and probably a Casey Candaele jersey. Probably won't be tough to pick me out of a crowd.
   42. Tony H. Posted: September 08, 2005 at 01:07 AM (#1603601)
Oh, no. Why is Sabathia still in the game?
   43. Veee Posted: September 08, 2005 at 01:07 AM (#1603602)
The Batter's Eye is inside the gates, right? I'm pretty sure we'd already need to have our tickets to get to it.

I've never been to a minor league game, sadly
   44. Bernal Diaz has an angel on his shoulder Posted: September 08, 2005 at 01:08 AM (#1603604)
I am seriously considering going to tomorrow's game.
   45. Veee Posted: September 08, 2005 at 01:08 AM (#1603607)
They just said CC's only thrown 86 pitches?
   46. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: September 08, 2005 at 01:09 AM (#1603608)
I just asked Repoz for a meetup thread - hopefully we'll have one up and running soon.
   47. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: September 08, 2005 at 01:11 AM (#1603614)
Yeah, Gamecast has CC at 90 pitches.
   48. Tony H. Posted: September 08, 2005 at 01:12 AM (#1603619)
They just said CC’s only thrown 86 pitches?

Yeah, I guess that's true. Didn't realize it, but still. He was starting to get hit pretty hard in the 7th.

It's strange to me to hear people that have never been to a minor league game. Then again, I've lived in a minor league town most of my life while others haven't, so I guess that makes sense. I don't think I've been to more than 20 major league games, not counting spring training. And I've never been to an NBA or NFL game.
   49. Bernal Diaz has an angel on his shoulder Posted: September 08, 2005 at 01:12 AM (#1603621)
I think you need to have a ticket for the Batter's Eye but it opens at 5PM for night games.
   50. Bernal Diaz has an angel on his shoulder Posted: September 08, 2005 at 01:14 AM (#1603623)
I enjoy going to minor league games so much more than MLB.
   51. Veee Posted: September 08, 2005 at 01:15 AM (#1603630)
I've never been to an NBA or NFL game, either. And I'm not really sure I want to change that.
   52. Bernal Diaz has an angel on his shoulder Posted: September 08, 2005 at 01:16 AM (#1603632)
I have been to MLB, MiLB, NHL, NFL, NASCAR, F1, World Cup, PGA, LPGA, Indy Car NCAA Football and the 1996 Olympics.


Never NBA or DI NCAA basketball.
   53. Bernal Diaz has an angel on his shoulder Posted: September 08, 2005 at 01:17 AM (#1603634)
Oh and NHRA in Columbus and Englishtown.
   54. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: September 08, 2005 at 01:17 AM (#1603635)
I've been to a bunch of Cavs games and a couple Browns games. No real desire to go back, but it was probably worth doing at least once.

Growing up in Canton, I went to the Hall of Fame Game pretty much every year.
   55. Veee Posted: September 08, 2005 at 01:19 AM (#1603641)
LPGA, Bernal?
   56. Bernal Diaz has an angel on his shoulder Posted: September 08, 2005 at 01:21 AM (#1603649)
Yeah, the US Womens Open at Baltusrol and there used to be a toruney at Canoe Brook every year.
   57. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: September 08, 2005 at 01:21 AM (#1603650)
Uh, let's see:
MLB
MiLB
USFL
NFL
CFL
Arenaball
NCAA Football
NCAA Hoop
MLS
NHL
Minor league hockey
Women's World Cup
Men's World Cup qualifier
MISL
NHRA
CART

Never golf or tennis, and I missed the damn '94 World Cup...which is a very sore subject for me.
   58. Bernal Diaz has an angel on his shoulder Posted: September 08, 2005 at 01:23 AM (#1603661)
Well Ernie, you hold an advantage over the rest of us.
   59. Veee Posted: September 08, 2005 at 01:24 AM (#1603668)
That has to be a record pitch count for CC
   60. Tony H. Posted: September 08, 2005 at 01:24 AM (#1603672)
Bernal and Ernie's lists makes me jealous.

MLB
Minor League Baseball
NCAA football
Independance Bowl yipee
NCAA basketball, men and women
NCAA hockey which is surprisingly fun
Arena Football which sucks
PGA -- PGA Championship at Oak Tree and US Open at Southern Hills

That's about it.
   61. Matthew Rich Posted: September 08, 2005 at 01:25 AM (#1603673)
I'm starting to get excited about this team, guys.
   62. Bernal Diaz has an angel on his shoulder Posted: September 08, 2005 at 01:25 AM (#1603674)
   63. Veee Posted: September 08, 2005 at 01:26 AM (#1603677)
I've been excited about this team since the Colon trade.
   64. Tony H. Posted: September 08, 2005 at 01:26 AM (#1603678)
Good win. Go D-Rays. Matthew Rich should post more often. Go Nats beat Guatemala.
   65. Bernal Diaz has an angel on his shoulder Posted: September 08, 2005 at 01:26 AM (#1603681)
I’m starting to get excited about this team, guys.


Just starting?
   66. Bernal Diaz has an angel on his shoulder Posted: September 08, 2005 at 01:28 AM (#1603688)
I have been excited about this team since they fired John McNamara.
   67. Veee Posted: September 08, 2005 at 01:28 AM (#1603690)
Does tomorrow's game count toward this series?
   68. Matthew Rich Posted: September 08, 2005 at 01:28 AM (#1603691)
Just starting?

Been trying to keep my expectations low.

I wish I could post more too, but I've been busy lately, and I'm about to get a *lot* busier: my wife is due with our first baby in 6 weeks.

I'm already starting to get worried that her labor is going to coincide with a WS game.
   69. Bernal Diaz has an angel on his shoulder Posted: September 08, 2005 at 01:30 AM (#1603699)
Does tomorrow’s game count toward this series?

No
   70. Bernal Diaz has an angel on his shoulder Posted: September 08, 2005 at 01:31 AM (#1603704)
my wife is due with our first baby in 6 weeks.


Well we know you aren't busy having sex....
   71. Veee Posted: September 08, 2005 at 01:34 AM (#1603712)
So we can potentially sweep them on consecutive days?
   72. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: September 08, 2005 at 01:35 AM (#1603721)
I’m already starting to get worried that her labor is going to coincide with a WS game.

My wedding reception was during game one of the '97 series.

My honeymoon was during the rest of the World Series.

I feel your pain.
   73. tribefan Posted: September 08, 2005 at 11:59 AM (#1604443)
My wedding reception was during game one of the ‘97 series.

Mine was Game 6 of the '95 series. Not a particularly good omen for the marriage...

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