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   1. Bernal Diaz has an angel on his shoulder Posted: September 09, 2005 at 03:48 PM (#1607319)
Ya know Sean you need to get over the fact that the Indians are better than the teams they are playing. I think this is the 3rd or 4th time that you have said something in effect of the teams rolling over for the Tribe.
   2. Matthew Rich Posted: September 09, 2005 at 04:41 PM (#1607481)
I was thinking the same thing, Bernal. It's a little irritating to hear the insinuation that the Indians are somehow not deserving of their record or their place in the standings.
   3. Brad in DE Posted: September 09, 2005 at 04:57 PM (#1607517)
As if teams haven't been bending over and taking it from the Yankees for years. Spare us, please.
   4. Tony H. Posted: September 09, 2005 at 05:31 PM (#1607629)
The whining in the lead-ins of the Indians games is getting a little annoying.

Frightened Yankee fans are obnoxious.
   5. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: September 09, 2005 at 06:26 PM (#1607803)
Boy, for a team leading the Wild Card, you are a grouchy bunch
   6. 1k5v3L Posted: September 09, 2005 at 06:27 PM (#1607805)
That's McNally. He gets hung up on things like that and just rants. For a while, he kept on b!tching that the Dbacks were the luckiest team in baseball, then he went on a crusade to prove that Stottlemeyer did not screw up Vazquez's mechanics, and now this. I think you can safely ignore his intros.
   7. Sean McNally Posted: September 09, 2005 at 07:37 PM (#1607986)
That’s McNally. He gets hung up on things like that and just rants. For a while, he kept on b!tching that the Dbacks were the luckiest team in baseball, then he went on a crusade to prove that Stottlemeyer did not screw up Vazquez’s mechanics, and now this. I think you can safely ignore his intros.

Untrue troll-holio! SG started the DBacks are the luckiest bunch of lucks that ever did luck earlier in the year... and was proven right by the way.

AND ... I've never tried to absolve Mel of anything. In fact, I think he kidnapped the Lindbergh baby, was the second shooter on the Grassy Knoll and killed Vince Foster.

As for Bernal's bleatings... Since Aug. 1, the Tribe is a sizzling 23-10 - that's a .697 winning percentage.

You really, honestly believe this is a .700 team?

Detroit is the biggest offender too... losing 8 of 9 in that span.

I really hope you all took Trammel out for a nice dinner or bought him something nice before doing your "Sisters" act to his Andy Dufrense.
   8. Tony H. Posted: September 09, 2005 at 07:47 PM (#1608012)
As for Bernal’s bleatings… Since Aug. 1, the Tribe is a sizzling 23-10 - that’s a .697 winning percentage.

You really, honestly believe this is a .700 team?


It's a pretty damn good team.

It's certainly not a shocking record once you consider the teams we've played in that stretch. Since August 1st, the Indians have played exactly six games against teams with records over .500. One series against the Yankees and one against the Twins.

Sorry the Indians had their difficult schedule during the first half of the year, and their lousy month in April. That certainly does not bode well for the Yankees.
   9. Sean McNally Posted: September 09, 2005 at 07:54 PM (#1608030)
It’s a pretty damn good team.

I don't disagree, but as it stands, for two months they've been playing at roughly a 113-win pace.

So while the Indians might be good, they aren't this good.
   10. Tony H. Posted: September 09, 2005 at 07:55 PM (#1608036)
One the bright side for Yankee fans, if you win tonight the wild card lead will likely be yours again. I don't have much faith in the Indians hitting a left-handed pitcher, especially Santana. And Westbrook has been pretty inconsistent.

Also, the Indians schedule does get admittedly tougher from here on out. Three games against Minnesota, three against Oakland, six against Chicago. Also seven against KC and three against Tampa, though the D-Rays have been pretty good the second half.
   11. PhillyBooster Posted: September 09, 2005 at 08:01 PM (#1608051)
As for Bernal’s bleatings… Since Aug. 1, the Tribe is a sizzling 23-10 - that’s a .697 winning percentage.

The Yankees have 22 wins since August 1.
   12. 1k5v3L Posted: September 09, 2005 at 08:05 PM (#1608063)
Untrue troll-holio!

McNally, how old are you? You need a new pacifier?

SG started the DBacks are the luckiest bunch of lucks that ever did luck earlier in the year… and was proven right by the way.

OK, I confused SG with SM. My bad. Anyhow, I never denied the Dbacks were lucky as sh!t; I just told SG that the daily rants of "the dbacks are lucky stiffs" was borderline abnormal. The way your rants about the Indians are getting ridiculous.


Here's the deal about the Indians. Their W3/L3 record should be 81-59. Their current record is 79-61, ie, they've underperformed by two games. Maybe part of that is reflected by the crappy record in one run games.

The Yankees W3/L3 is 79-60, compared to their actual record of 78-61. So they've pissed away a game they shouldn't have. But the point is, the Indians have been a very good team for most of the season, not just lately.

Simply, imho, their atrocious record in one run games, especially early on, concealed the fact that they were a better team than their record. Now things are turning in their favor. Are they a .700 team? Probably not.

But they appear to be as good of a team as the Yankees right now, and they've got a softer schedule down the road. Expecting the Indians to lose to the Tigers so that could neutralize the Yankees suckiness against Tampa is stupid, no?

The Yankees can't blame anyone but themselves (and their inability to beat Tampa) if they miss out on the playoffs. Not the Indians and their hot streak over the last two months. Even if the Indians are not a 113-win team.
   13. Bernal Diaz has an angel on his shoulder Posted: September 09, 2005 at 09:21 PM (#1608302)
As for Bernal’s bleatings… Since Aug. 1, the Tribe is a sizzling 23-10 - that’s a .697 winning percentage.

You really, honestly believe this is a .700 team


Yup.
   14. MLB Posted: September 09, 2005 at 09:39 PM (#1608377)
Oh, crap! I could have begun my Cleveland visit today and gone to this game. Instead I'm flying out tomorrow.
My parents will get to watch one of the finest pitchers of our time, and I'll have to wait for that.
   15. Bernal Diaz has an angel on his shoulder Posted: September 09, 2005 at 09:48 PM (#1608411)
My parents will get to watch one of the finest pitchers of our time, and I’ll have to wait for that.


Westbrook is ok. ; )
   16. MLB Posted: September 09, 2005 at 09:53 PM (#1608430)
I knew that comment was coming, and I figured it was most likely from Bernal.
   17. Bernal Diaz has an angel on his shoulder Posted: September 09, 2005 at 10:48 PM (#1608573)
Ronnie Belliard is my hero.
   18. Bernal Diaz has an angel on his shoulder Posted: September 09, 2005 at 10:51 PM (#1608576)
The reason I said that is the Belliard presented his game jersey from July 4th to the family of Jeff Boskovitch. Boskovitch was killed in Iraq.
   19. Tony H. Posted: September 09, 2005 at 11:09 PM (#1608606)
Is everyone in Ohio excited that the Buckeyes will be the first team to knock off a top-5 opponent this season?
   20. Bernal Diaz has an angel on his shoulder Posted: September 09, 2005 at 11:11 PM (#1608610)
Is everyone in Ohio excited that the Buckeyes will be the first team to knock off a top-5 opponent this season?

It is Buckeye and Browns fevor in Cleveland. Plus HS Football. That is why the Indians attendance sucks tonight.
   21. Tony H. Posted: September 09, 2005 at 11:14 PM (#1608618)
I didn't know there was still such a thing as Browns fevor. That team is freaking awful. I do like Crennel, though, and they have two Sooners, so perhaps in a couple years they will be good again.

Ohio State 31
Texas 21
   22. Tony H. Posted: September 09, 2005 at 11:16 PM (#1608621)
Attaboy Jake.
   23. More Dewey is Always Good Posted: September 09, 2005 at 11:18 PM (#1608623)
I guess I should root for the Twins here, but I just can't put my heart into it.

I will root for Johan Santana, though. I like him.
   24. Tony H. Posted: September 09, 2005 at 11:18 PM (#1608624)
Jose Hernandez is a good defender. Also it seems everybody on the team absolutely loves him. Wish he was having a better year at the plate, though.
   25. Bernal Diaz has an angel on his shoulder Posted: September 09, 2005 at 11:23 PM (#1608634)
########!!!!!!!!!!!!

king Grady!!!!!!!!!!!
   26. Tony H. Posted: September 09, 2005 at 11:23 PM (#1608635)
KING
   27. Bernal Diaz has an angel on his shoulder Posted: September 09, 2005 at 11:27 PM (#1608641)
Santana looks like crap.
   28. Tony H. Posted: September 09, 2005 at 11:27 PM (#1608644)
This is crazy.
   29. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: September 09, 2005 at 11:28 PM (#1608648)
Three hitters, two runs by Johan Santana. Just another AL Central team rolling over the Indians!
   30. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: September 09, 2005 at 11:37 PM (#1608669)
Is everyone in Ohio excited that the Buckeyes will be the first team to knock off a top-5 opponent this season?

I absolutely can't stand Ohio State.

I think you can safely guess how I feel about scoring twice in the first against Santana. Take the exact opposite, and that's my opinion of Ohio State.

How's Jake looked so far? Good Jake? Evil Jake?
   31. Bernal Diaz has an angel on his shoulder Posted: September 09, 2005 at 11:38 PM (#1608674)
Good Jake.
   32. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: September 09, 2005 at 11:39 PM (#1608675)
Excellent.

Between that and the inevitable Twins rolling over, the Tribe's lookin' good.
   33. Tony H. Posted: September 09, 2005 at 11:39 PM (#1608678)
I feel the same way about Texas as you do Ohio State.

Jake's looked ok so far. Nicely got out of a jam in the first.
   34. Ben Posted: September 09, 2005 at 11:39 PM (#1608679)
I think Rick Manning is drunk. His response to the pitch count questions was something like:

"I dunno if it has something to do with the studies they've done... bullpens.... 6 or 7 guys..."
   35. Bernal Diaz has an angel on his shoulder Posted: September 09, 2005 at 11:40 PM (#1608682)
Ok, maybe naughty Jake.
   36. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: September 09, 2005 at 11:42 PM (#1608688)
Uh-oh.
   37. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: September 09, 2005 at 11:45 PM (#1608694)
Your standard, everyday 1-6-run over the second baseman-3 groundout.
   38. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: September 09, 2005 at 11:49 PM (#1608716)
Sox up 3-1. Edgar Renteria helps us for a change.
   39. Matthew Rich Posted: September 09, 2005 at 11:55 PM (#1608731)
I'm sorry I'm not going to be in town for the meetup. I'd buy all you guys a beer.

Even Ben.
   40. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: September 10, 2005 at 12:00 AM (#1608746)
Maybe we'll all road trip out to Chicago to see the Tribe in the ALCS.
   41. Tony H. Posted: September 10, 2005 at 12:03 AM (#1608754)
Nice Grady.

Maybe we’ll all road trip out to Chicago to see the Tribe in the ALCS.

That I would do. If the Indians made the World Series I would make the trip to Cleveland.
   42. Ben Posted: September 10, 2005 at 12:05 AM (#1608758)
Aw, Matt, you big sweetie.
   43. madherb Posted: September 10, 2005 at 12:06 AM (#1608761)
Geez, does Johan work slowly or is GameChatter slow? I had what I thought was a 10 minute phone call during Grady's at-bat.
   44. Ben Posted: September 10, 2005 at 12:06 AM (#1608765)
Also, do the Indians fail at bunts all the freaking time? It seems we constantly get the lead runner thrown out. I blame Rick Manning.
   45. Bernal Diaz has an angel on his shoulder Posted: September 10, 2005 at 12:06 AM (#1608767)
When If the Indians make the World Series I will would make the trip to Cleveland.
   46. Matthew Rich Posted: September 10, 2005 at 12:10 AM (#1608786)
Ben you just have to promise to not to tell me the beer isn't as good as I think it is, and that it shouldn't have re-signed Casey Blake. :)
   47. zempf Posted: September 10, 2005 at 12:14 AM (#1608807)
Yikes. They showed the overhead shot of that called strike 3 to Hafner & it was in the other batter's box.
   48. Tony H. Posted: September 10, 2005 at 12:14 AM (#1608808)
yuck
   49. Bernal Diaz has an angel on his shoulder Posted: September 10, 2005 at 12:29 AM (#1608858)
Dammit jake, throw stikes.
   50. Ben Posted: September 10, 2005 at 12:30 AM (#1608862)
Deal. I will complain if the beer plays Jose Hernandez at first against LHP, though.


Freaking ridiculous. Against LHP I wonder how our combined corner positions OPS weighs against other teams. Not many teams have their 2nd and third best hitters playing SS and C.
   51. Bernal Diaz has an angel on his shoulder Posted: September 10, 2005 at 12:32 AM (#1608865)
Strikes, not meatballs.
   52. Tony H. Posted: September 10, 2005 at 12:32 AM (#1608866)
getting annoying.
   53. Tony H. Posted: September 10, 2005 at 12:39 AM (#1608894)
Nice Casey. To opposite field, no less.
   54. Matthew Rich Posted: September 10, 2005 at 12:41 AM (#1608902)
Covelli!!!!
   55. Tony H. Posted: September 10, 2005 at 12:41 AM (#1608903)
Thought that one was gone.
   56. Bernal Diaz has an angel on his shoulder Posted: September 10, 2005 at 12:41 AM (#1608905)
Coco is yummy.
   57. Matthew Rich Posted: September 10, 2005 at 12:41 AM (#1608909)
I'm not digging Coco's new facial hair. Ooof.
   58. Matthew Rich Posted: September 10, 2005 at 12:45 AM (#1608918)
CLE, NYY, LAA, and OAK all leading their games right now.
   59. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: September 10, 2005 at 12:49 AM (#1608934)
I saw Coco rounding third and cringed.
   60. Tony H. Posted: September 10, 2005 at 12:56 AM (#1608965)
ronnie!
   61. Ben Posted: September 10, 2005 at 01:02 AM (#1608986)
Stop bunting if you can't do it.
   62. Tony H. Posted: September 10, 2005 at 01:03 AM (#1608988)
I think Ben is right in post 44.
   63. Tony H. Posted: September 10, 2005 at 01:03 AM (#1608992)
Also in post 61.
   64. Bernal Diaz has an angel on his shoulder Posted: September 10, 2005 at 01:10 AM (#1609023)
Trivia question.


Who holds the Twins single season rookie record for RBI?




My guess

Tony Oliva
   65. Bernal Diaz has an angel on his shoulder Posted: September 10, 2005 at 01:16 AM (#1609054)
A-
Rich Rollins with 96

Oliva had 94

I was close.




Mullholland coming in.
   66. Tony H. Posted: September 10, 2005 at 01:18 AM (#1609062)
Mulholland. We're done for this inning.
   67. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: September 10, 2005 at 01:21 AM (#1609077)
I guessed Hrbek.

Time for Jhonny to break it open.
   68. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: September 10, 2005 at 01:21 AM (#1609080)
The game, not his knee.
   69. Tony H. Posted: September 10, 2005 at 01:22 AM (#1609089)
Pronk will hit a grand slam.
   70. Bernal Diaz has an angel on his shoulder Posted: September 10, 2005 at 01:22 AM (#1609090)
Oh, I saw an old Einar Diaz jersey today and alomst bought it.

DIAZ
2


on the back.


Get it?
   71. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: September 10, 2005 at 01:24 AM (#1609097)
Freaking Mulholland.
   72. Tony H. Posted: September 10, 2005 at 01:24 AM (#1609100)
####!
   73. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: September 10, 2005 at 01:26 AM (#1609108)
What number did Bo Diaz wear?

Anyone know off hand?
   74. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: September 10, 2005 at 01:30 AM (#1609137)
Bo wore #16 with the Indians.

Apart from you being Bernal Diaz, what's the significance of the 2? Is there any?
   75. Tony H. Posted: September 10, 2005 at 01:32 AM (#1609148)
I don't get it.
   76. Bernal Diaz has an angel on his shoulder Posted: September 10, 2005 at 01:34 AM (#1609163)
Einar was #2

I just think it would be cool to have a jersey with DIAZ on the back.


I still may get it, they had a bunch of them.
   77. Tony H. Posted: September 10, 2005 at 01:34 AM (#1609165)
Now I get it. I'm stupid.
   78. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: September 10, 2005 at 01:35 AM (#1609166)
Howry's just awesome.
   79. Beanpot Posted: September 10, 2005 at 01:37 AM (#1609173)
Howry is a witch.
   80. Bernal Diaz has an angel on his shoulder Posted: September 10, 2005 at 01:37 AM (#1609174)
I just applied to be a banquet manager at Gund Arena.
   81. Tony H. Posted: September 10, 2005 at 01:44 AM (#1609219)
I was just reading this advance scout piece on the done by the Batter's Box before our series with the Jays last month.

It is extremely well done, but the one line that jumps out at me is about Coco: "Alert baserunner"
   82. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: September 10, 2005 at 01:45 AM (#1609230)
I just applied to be a banquet manager at Gund Arena.

You could be Robert Traylor's personal chef!
   83. Tony H. Posted: September 10, 2005 at 01:47 AM (#1609240)
Come on, Wickman. Do not piss me off tonight.
   84. Tony H. Posted: September 10, 2005 at 01:49 AM (#1609256)
I love that the Twins are in the AL Central and we get to see Lecroy vs. Wickman 5 or 6 times a year.
   85. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: September 10, 2005 at 01:50 AM (#1609264)
Who wins an eating contest between Wickman and LeCroy?
   86. Beanpot Posted: September 10, 2005 at 01:50 AM (#1609267)
Ah crap.
   87. Tony H. Posted: September 10, 2005 at 01:51 AM (#1609273)
Aaron F****ng Boone.
   88. Bernal Diaz has an angel on his shoulder Posted: September 10, 2005 at 01:54 AM (#1609290)
Who wins an eating contest between Wickman and LeCroy?

Giant Eagle
   89. Tony H. Posted: September 10, 2005 at 01:55 AM (#1609299)
I wish Bernal was still posting picks of Boone's wife every time he ##### up.
   90. Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: September 10, 2005 at 01:55 AM (#1609301)
WOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
   91. Tony H. Posted: September 10, 2005 at 01:56 AM (#1609306)
YES
   92. Bernal Diaz has an angel on his shoulder Posted: September 10, 2005 at 01:59 AM (#1609328)
   93. zempf Posted: September 10, 2005 at 02:01 AM (#1609337)
That's Boone's wife?! Jesus.
   94. Rouglas Odor Eaters Posted: September 10, 2005 at 02:52 AM (#1609546)
Anyone remember Einar wearing 39 for a couple of games? Must have been after the Reed trade, but Baseball-Almanac doesn't have Einar wearing it.

It would go nicely with Rick White's 24 or the 60 and up jerseys of Jhonny, Vic, and Cliff.

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