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Nationals (34-23) @ RedSox (29-30), Sunday, June 10, 2012, 1:35pm

WSN:Jordan Zimmermann (26, RHP, 3-5, 2.82)
BOS:Jon Lester (28, LHP, 3-4, 4.64)

The Primer Chimp Posted: June 10, 2012 at 10:00 AM | 106 comment(s)
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1. Joey B. has ignited his October #Natitude Posted: June 10, 2012 at 11:24 AM (#4152891)

I would feel very good indeed about our chances of sweeping this series, if it wasn't for the fact that we just about always lose the sweep game.

2. Joey B. has ignited his October #Natitude Posted: June 10, 2012 at 01:42 PM (#4153058)

we caught a lucky break right there. If that ball is fielded cleanly, Espinosa is dead at home.

3. Dan Posted: June 10, 2012 at 01:50 PM (#4153072)

Adrian Gonzalez hits into double play. News at 11.

4. Dan Posted: June 10, 2012 at 02:27 PM (#4153097)

It's as if people have something better to do on a Sunday afternoon in June than watch baseball and comment on it on the internet...

5. Dan Posted: June 10, 2012 at 02:31 PM (#4153102)

Desmond looked like he was moving in slow motion on that attempted turn.

6. Chip Posted: June 10, 2012 at 02:32 PM (#4153105)

Incredibly lazy effort by the Nats D on that double play ball by Pedroia. Sox should not have that run.

7. Dan Posted: June 10, 2012 at 02:35 PM (#4153109)

Gonzalez looked like he had turned a corner the other day, but today he's rolling over on pitches again and not being patient. Sigh.

8. Chip Posted: June 10, 2012 at 02:38 PM (#4153113)

According to Orsillo, that hit was by Morse, not Desmond. Because he can't be bothered to pay attention, with so much non-baseball stuff to take care of in the booth.

I also liked earlier when he was reading the card about the French Open final, and pronounced the name of the world's #1 tennis play as Novak "Dvorak." Such a professional sportscaster.

9. Dan Posted: June 10, 2012 at 02:38 PM (#4153115)

Desmond not covering himself in glory here.

10. Chip Posted: June 10, 2012 at 02:44 PM (#4153121)

Crushed.

Unfortunately, Ortiz had the poor taste to interrupt the eyeblack comedy routine. Millions of Don & Jerry fans cry.

11. Joe Bivens, Minor Genius Posted: June 10, 2012 at 02:46 PM (#4153123)

Not only this, but Jenny Dell makes Heidi Watney sound like a real broadcaster.

12. Chip Posted: June 10, 2012 at 02:52 PM (#4153132)

Dell's robotic readings of the stuff her producer writes for her would be embarrassing for a freshman in a college intro to radio & TV class.

13. Darren

Posted: June 10, 2012 at 02:59 PM (#4153139)

New rule: no sliding into first.... ever.

14. Darren

Posted: June 10, 2012 at 02:59 PM (#4153141)

Also, I like Chip's work here.

15. Chip Posted: June 10, 2012 at 03:00 PM (#4153142)

Scott Podsednik: Unstoppable.

16. Dan Posted: June 10, 2012 at 03:05 PM (#4153143)

Adrian Gonzalez looks like complete #### again.

17. Chip Posted: June 10, 2012 at 03:06 PM (#4153149)

Dane's right, Friday's Gonzo is now a distant memory.

I missed Pedroia's first PA. Did he actually hit that ball that went for a single hard?

18. Chip Posted: June 10, 2012 at 03:07 PM (#4153152)

Dan, not Dane. Stupid iPad.

19. Dan Posted: June 10, 2012 at 03:10 PM (#4153157)

It was hit pretty hard. Nothing amazing, but it wasn't a bloop.

20. Chip Posted: June 10, 2012 at 03:10 PM (#4153158)

Shocking.

21. Dan Posted: June 10, 2012 at 03:10 PM (#4153159)

Your iPad is just really smart. My login name is actually dane (DanE)

22. Chip Posted: June 10, 2012 at 03:13 PM (#4153162)

Makes up for me, then.

23. Darren

Posted: June 10, 2012 at 03:15 PM (#4153164)

Does Gonzo still have his no walks thing going?

24. Dan Posted: June 10, 2012 at 03:16 PM (#4153165)

Believe so.

25. Dan Posted: June 10, 2012 at 03:17 PM (#4153166)

I think I read somewhere that prior to this, he had never gone more than 15 games without a walk, and hadn't goen more than 22 games without a TWO WALK GAME since like 2008.

26. Darren

Posted: June 10, 2012 at 03:20 PM (#4153169)

You'd hope that when a guy's not walking, it's because he's hitting so well. But no.

Last 23 games: 0 BB, 19 K, .245/.250/.426.

27. Dan Posted: June 10, 2012 at 03:22 PM (#4153170)

He was walking 100+ times a few years ago too.

28. Chip Posted: June 10, 2012 at 03:23 PM (#4153171)

That time it was a Nationals fan who needs to be tossed.

29. Dan Posted: June 10, 2012 at 03:23 PM (#4153172)

And it's not like pitchers are really giving him more strikes due to better protection, he's just chasing everything now, when you'd think he would be LESS inclined to chase with good hitters coming up behind him.

30. Darren

Posted: June 10, 2012 at 03:24 PM (#4153173)

I'd have much less patience as an umpire. There's not much to discuss.

31. Answer Guy Posted: June 10, 2012 at 03:25 PM (#4153175)

Of all the #### that has befallen this team this season.....a Nats fan interfering with the ball in an effort to get the team an extra base is up there with the most disgraceful. That guy should have his ass kicked.

32. Darren

Posted: June 10, 2012 at 03:26 PM (#4153177)

If you look on Fangraphs, Gonzo is swinging at a lot more balls. Also, from watching him, it doesn't look like he can handle good fastballs.

33. Chip Posted: June 10, 2012 at 03:28 PM (#4153178)

Here goes the lead.

34. Darren

Posted: June 10, 2012 at 03:28 PM (#4153179)

So nobody covers 3rd on that play? Brilliant.

35. Dan Posted: June 10, 2012 at 03:29 PM (#4153182)

Lester paying 0 attention to the runners. Amazing.

36. Darren

Posted: June 10, 2012 at 03:29 PM (#4153186)

Lester had just faked to 2nd on the previous pitch. And what would it matter if he had? The runner could have walked to 3rd.

37. Dan Posted: June 10, 2012 at 03:29 PM (#4153187)

If you look on Fangraphs, Gonzo is swinging at a lot more balls. Also, from watching him, it doesn't look like he can handle good fastballs.

Beyond just watching him, look at the pitch type linear weights while you're there. He's gone from one of the best fastball hitters in MLB to incapable of hitting a fastball, and it's plain as day.

38. Chip Posted: June 10, 2012 at 03:30 PM (#4153188)

Even if you have the rotation play on, I don't think the SS could get over in time on a steal attempt. he's just supposed to get there in time to cover if the bunt gets down.

39. Darren

Posted: June 10, 2012 at 03:31 PM (#4153190)

@38--so a runner can steal 3rd rather on every fake sacrifice?

40. Dan Posted: June 10, 2012 at 03:33 PM (#4153193)

Here comes the back breaking 2 out hit after that...

41. Darren

Posted: June 10, 2012 at 03:34 PM (#4153194)

That ball carried. I was crazy to think they might get out of that.

42. Dan Posted: June 10, 2012 at 03:34 PM (#4153195)

Good job, Jon.

43. Chip Posted: June 10, 2012 at 03:35 PM (#4153197)

McDonald completely misread that. His glove was high enough to catch it but he was three feet left of where he needed to be.

44. Darren

Posted: June 10, 2012 at 03:35 PM (#4153199)

It looked like he jammed him--hard to blame Lester.

45. Joey B. has ignited his October #Natitude Posted: June 10, 2012 at 03:36 PM (#4153200)

Classic Fenway popup double!!

46. Dan Posted: June 10, 2012 at 03:36 PM (#4153202)

And the Yankees just took a late lead against the Mets, too! Yay!

47. Darren

Posted: June 10, 2012 at 03:36 PM (#4153203)

Maybe they should DL Gonzalez and rest his shoulder.

48. Darren

Posted: June 10, 2012 at 03:37 PM (#4153204)

Well, of course the Yanks are ahead. The Red Sox are just not meant to be in contention this year.

49. Chip Posted: June 10, 2012 at 03:38 PM (#4153205)

Maybe they should DL Gonzalez and rest his shoulder.

For a couple months.

50. Chip Posted: June 10, 2012 at 03:42 PM (#4153209)

Nats had no one covering third on McDonald's bunt, same as the Sox.

51. Dan Posted: June 10, 2012 at 03:45 PM (#4153212)

Podsednik! I'll take it.

52. Dan Posted: June 10, 2012 at 03:47 PM (#4153213)

BERAdina? There's another ####### N in his name, Don. After "Lombardoozy" yesterday ,too. What a hack.

53. Chip Posted: June 10, 2012 at 03:47 PM (#4153214)

That's about the most you could hope for from Pods there, even after he had gotten ahead 3-1.

And that's about all you'd expect from one-handed Pedroia. #### Nick Cafardo for telling us what a gamer he is for playing hurt.

54. Dan Posted: June 10, 2012 at 03:50 PM (#4153219)

That was terrifying.

55. Chip Posted: June 10, 2012 at 03:52 PM (#4153222)

More eyeblack humor. I have bruises all over from ROTFL at it, it's so staggeringly funny.

56. Joe Bivens, Minor Genius Posted: June 10, 2012 at 03:52 PM (#4153223)

Oh, shut her up. "He hasn't played in a major game in..."

57. Joe Bivens, Minor Genius Posted: June 10, 2012 at 03:54 PM (#4153227)

It's obvious what demographic they're gong after, and I guess I'm part of it, but frankly I'd like it better if they'd just show her jumping around in a wet t-shirt every couple of minutes rather than them having her speak.

58. Dan Posted: June 10, 2012 at 03:56 PM (#4153228)

Rays beat Marlins, complete sweep. Somehow I doubt that the Marlins will roll over the same way for the Red Sox.

59. Chip Posted: June 10, 2012 at 03:57 PM (#4153230)

I think it was yesterday she told us about the Diamondbacks rally Friday night from six runs down against the A's, which she described as a "6 and 0 comeback."

60. Chip Posted: June 10, 2012 at 04:01 PM (#4153233)

Gozo ahead 3-0, absolutely refusing to be walked. That half swing on the 3-1 pitch had all the hallmarks of a guy cheating in hopes of a fastball because he wouldn't be able to catch up otherwise.

61. Dan Posted: June 10, 2012 at 04:02 PM (#4153235)

That half swing on the 3-1 pitch had all the hallmarks of a guy cheating in hopes of a fastball because he wouldn't be able to catch up otherwise.

I was thinking the exact same thing.

62. Chip Posted: June 10, 2012 at 04:03 PM (#4153236)

("Gozo" was another sign of iPad intelligence, because he certainly isn't Gonzo anymore.)

63. Chip Posted: June 10, 2012 at 04:08 PM (#4153239)

Gorzellanny goes 3-0 on three of the four batters he's faced, and still has two outs.

64. Dan Posted: June 10, 2012 at 04:09 PM (#4153242)

Sweeney against the lefty does not have a chance of tying up the game, Don.

65. Chip Posted: June 10, 2012 at 04:13 PM (#4153246)

That could have been a big inning if Gonzo weren't Gozo.

66. Dan Posted: June 10, 2012 at 04:14 PM (#4153249)

Yankees walk off in the 9th to beat Mets.

67. Benji Gil Gamesh Rises Posted: June 10, 2012 at 04:15 PM (#4153250)

I am not feeling good about Aceves vs Harper.

68. Dan Posted: June 10, 2012 at 04:16 PM (#4153253)

If Aceves uses his changeup he should be fine against Harper. If he tries to pump fastballs by him, he's going to get burned.

69. Chip Posted: June 10, 2012 at 04:17 PM (#4153256)

Here comes the SB and seeing eye group ball single.

70. Chip Posted: June 10, 2012 at 04:17 PM (#4153257)

Groundball single.

71. Esoteric throws a 'hard slider' Posted: June 10, 2012 at 04:18 PM (#4153258)

Aceves wanted absolutely nothing to do with Bryce Harper. The quintessential intentional unintentional walk.

72. Esoteric throws a 'hard slider' Posted: June 10, 2012 at 04:19 PM (#4153259)

Dammit Flores! Aceves hasn't thrown a single strike and you've swung through two obvious balls!

73. Esoteric throws a 'hard slider' Posted: June 10, 2012 at 04:19 PM (#4153262)

Meh. Nats aren't scoring here.

74. Chip Posted: June 10, 2012 at 04:20 PM (#4153266)

Stunned that Harper is not yet standing on second.

75. Esoteric throws a 'hard slider' Posted: June 10, 2012 at 04:22 PM (#4153268)

WOW. I did not even remotely expect that.

76. Chip Posted: June 10, 2012 at 04:23 PM (#4153269)

Suddenly the all-day wide strike zone disappears. And of course, it matters.

77. Esoteric throws a 'hard slider' Posted: June 10, 2012 at 04:23 PM (#4153270)

And man holy sh*t is Bryce Harper ever fast. I just can't believe how fast he is for a guy that large, with all that power.

78. Dan Posted: June 10, 2012 at 04:23 PM (#4153271)

Harper scores without standing on 2nd anyway.

79. Dan Posted: June 10, 2012 at 04:24 PM (#4153272)

And man holy sh*t is Bryce Harper ever fast. I just can't believe how fast he is for a guy that large, with all that power.

The thing to me is that I had no idea he was this fast before seeing him in the majors. You heard about the hitting and the throwing arm, but I don't ever recall reading that he was fast like this.

80. Chip Posted: June 10, 2012 at 04:24 PM (#4153273)

Aceves had him struck out twice over, if the zone Zimmerman and Lester saw were still being called.

81. Dan Posted: June 10, 2012 at 04:27 PM (#4153274)

Catcher's glove had to move, obviously they weren't strikes, Chip.

82. Esoteric throws a 'hard slider' Posted: June 10, 2012 at 04:29 PM (#4153275)

Man, if the Nats can hang on this will be huge, as the Jays just capitalized on LIVO TIME!! in a major way and rang up 11 runs on Atlanta after being down by four.

83. Esoteric throws a 'hard slider' Posted: June 10, 2012 at 04:30 PM (#4153277)

Just pitch to Youk, Tyler! Let him get himself out.

(I'm sure he can hear me writing this right now.)

84. Dan Posted: June 10, 2012 at 04:31 PM (#4153278)

Phillies are playing extras in Baltimore again too, and Chollie's still not using Papelbon.

85. Dan Posted: June 10, 2012 at 04:32 PM (#4153279)

No pinch runner?

86. Dan Posted: June 10, 2012 at 04:33 PM (#4153280)

Pinch running on the 1-1 count? What the #### IS GOING ON?

87. Chip Posted: June 10, 2012 at 04:35 PM (#4153281)

Strike-out throw-out is inevitable.

88. Esoteric throws a 'hard slider' Posted: June 10, 2012 at 04:36 PM (#4153282)

BIG STRIKEOUT FOR CLIPPARD.

89. Chip Posted: June 10, 2012 at 04:37 PM (#4153283)

Bobby V. realizes this, holds Aviles on the third 3-2.

90. Dan Posted: June 10, 2012 at 04:37 PM (#4153284)

At least they didn't send him the third time lol.

91. Esoteric throws a 'hard slider' Posted: June 10, 2012 at 04:38 PM (#4153285)

How was Clippard's first pitch to Pedroia a ball?

92. Chip Posted: June 10, 2012 at 04:38 PM (#4153286)

How could striking out Scott Podsednik ever be even medium, let alone BIG?

93. Esoteric throws a 'hard slider' Posted: June 10, 2012 at 04:40 PM (#4153287)

If Bobby V wants to ##### about the strikezone, maybe he should complain about Ball 1 of this AB. Pedroia should be in the showers along with the rest of the team right now.

94. Chip Posted: June 10, 2012 at 04:40 PM (#4153288)

Aceves wishes he could have had Clippard's zone. Strike two to Pedroia was a joke, and this is absolutely appropriate by Valentine.

95. Joe Bivens, Minor Genius Posted: June 10, 2012 at 04:40 PM (#4153289)

WTF is security doing?

96. Esoteric throws a 'hard slider' Posted: June 10, 2012 at 04:40 PM (#4153290)

Aceves wishes he could have had Clippard's zone. Strike two to Pedroia was a joke, and this is absolutely appropriate by Valentine.

Gameday shows strike two to Pedroia was on the black in the strikezone. Whereas ball one was even more well within the zone.

97. The Yankee Clapper Posted: June 10, 2012 at 04:41 PM (#4153293)

SWEEP!

98. Joe Bivens, Minor Genius Posted: June 10, 2012 at 04:41 PM (#4153294)

Strike two was close. It wasn't that bad.

99. Esoteric throws a 'hard slider' Posted: June 10, 2012 at 04:42 PM (#4153295)

And the Nats SWEEP the Sox! Only the second time we've swept a team this year, ironically enough.

Plus: the Braves are being destroyed by the Jays, the Mets blew a big lead to lose, and the Marlins were edged out by the Rays. (Who cares about the Phils?)

LIFE
IS
GOOD.

100. Chip Posted: June 10, 2012 at 04:42 PM (#4153296)

Strike two to Pedroia was a good two ball widths off the plate on the NESN zone.

Where did Gameday show the pitches that Aceves didn't get?

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