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RedSox (4-10) @ Twins (5-11), Monday, April 23, 2012, 8:10pm

BOS:Jon Lester (28, LHP, 0-2, 5.82)
MIN:Jason Marquis (33, RHP, 1-0, 7.20)

The Primer Chimp Posted: April 23, 2012 at 10:00 AM | 268 comment(s)
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201. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: April 23, 2012 at 11:13 PM (#4114394)

Ugh.

202. The Mohole* of David Wells (* - Piehole)

Posted: April 23, 2012 at 11:14 PM (#4114396)

Cafardo is fat and stupid.

203. Jay Seaver Posted: April 23, 2012 at 11:14 PM (#4114397)

Did Cafardo just call the Yankees the "Europeans"? That's just weird

204. The Mohole* of David Wells (* - Piehole)

Posted: April 23, 2012 at 11:15 PM (#4114399)

Cafardo trash-talking works too.

Cafardo is ugly and lives in a trailer.

205. The Mohole* of David Wells (* - Piehole)

Posted: April 23, 2012 at 11:15 PM (#4114400)

Cafardo states the obvious. Moron.

206. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: April 23, 2012 at 11:15 PM (#4114401)

Ugh

207. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: April 23, 2012 at 11:16 PM (#4114402)

I'm watching the Twins feed to escape the Fatted Caf.

208. The Mohole* of David Wells (* - Piehole)

Posted: April 23, 2012 at 11:16 PM (#4114403)

Cafardo is a gnome.

209. Darren

Posted: April 23, 2012 at 11:16 PM (#4114404)

Hey Cafardo, maybe he's throwing too many changeups.

210. The Mohole* of David Wells (* - Piehole)

Posted: April 23, 2012 at 11:17 PM (#4114405)

Plouffe: cheese eating surrender monkey!

211. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: April 23, 2012 at 11:17 PM (#4114406)

Jesus

212. Jay Seaver Posted: April 23, 2012 at 11:17 PM (#4114407)

That was briefly terrifying.

213. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: April 23, 2012 at 11:17 PM (#4114408)

I was about to break my laptop with my hand.

Jesus blarg.

214. The Mohole* of David Wells (* - Piehole)

Posted: April 23, 2012 at 11:17 PM (#4114409)

Cody Ross: sucktastic!

215. Gamingboy Posted: April 23, 2012 at 11:17 PM (#4114410)

Well, there you go, Target Field once again thwarts the fly ball. The Red Sox will win and everything will be okay for you guys. Onward to October.

216. Darren

Posted: April 23, 2012 at 11:17 PM (#4114411)

People make outs all the time, right?

Valentine? What?

217. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: April 23, 2012 at 11:17 PM (#4114412)

Whatever Bobby said got a few chuckles

218. The Mohole* of David Wells (* - Piehole)

Posted: April 23, 2012 at 11:18 PM (#4114413)

Keeping it light on the mound. Love Bobby V.

219. Darren

Posted: April 23, 2012 at 11:18 PM (#4114415)

He got it on the hands a bit. That was not right over the plate.

220. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: April 23, 2012 at 11:19 PM (#4114416)

Big block by Saltalamacchia there

221. Dale Sams Posted: April 23, 2012 at 11:19 PM (#4114417)

Valentine makes Tito look like Casey Stengel. What the ####???? Not brining in Bard for the ninth so you can build the confidence of your 'closer'??? Go #### your self valentine win or lose.

222. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: April 23, 2012 at 11:19 PM (#4114419)

I just called Aceves " Alfie" in my living room, approved?

223. The Mohole* of David Wells (* - Piehole)

Posted: April 23, 2012 at 11:20 PM (#4114421)

I just called Aceves " Alfie" in my living room, approved?

I call him all kinds of things that you probably can't say in your livingroom.

224. Answer Guy Posted: April 23, 2012 at 11:20 PM (#4114422)

Onward to October.

I forget; are there regular season games that spill into October this season?

225. The Mohole* of David Wells (* - Piehole)

Posted: April 23, 2012 at 11:21 PM (#4114423)

This save situation is Papelbon-ish.

226. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: April 23, 2012 at 11:21 PM (#4114424)

I live alone, I can say whatever the #### I want and often do.

227. The Mohole* of David Wells (* - Piehole)

Posted: April 23, 2012 at 11:21 PM (#4114425)

I live alone, I can say whatever the #### I want and often do.

Ah, I have a wife and two kids. I'm pretty repressed.

228. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: April 23, 2012 at 11:22 PM (#4114426)

Holy crap Aceves actually told a reporter he wasn't comfortable closing? Christ.

229. Darren

Posted: April 23, 2012 at 11:22 PM (#4114427)

People make outs all the time, right?

230. The Mohole* of David Wells (* - Piehole)

Posted: April 23, 2012 at 11:23 PM (#4114428)

People make outs all the time, right?

About 75% of the time.

Also, CAFARDO IS A MORON.

231. Answer Guy Posted: April 23, 2012 at 11:23 PM (#4114429)

People make outs all the time, right?

Against people who aren't Red Sox relievers? Sure.

232. Jay Seaver Posted: April 23, 2012 at 11:23 PM (#4114430)

Wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiin!

233. Darren

Posted: April 23, 2012 at 11:24 PM (#4114431)

Jesus blarg indeed.

234. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: April 23, 2012 at 11:24 PM (#4114432)

YEAH!

235. Answer Guy Posted: April 23, 2012 at 11:24 PM (#4114433)

About 75% of the time.

It's more like 68% or something.

236. The Mohole* of David Wells (* - Piehole)

Posted: April 23, 2012 at 11:24 PM (#4114434)

WTF@!!!

237. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: April 23, 2012 at 11:24 PM (#4114435)

What happens when you end the game with more runs than your opponent?

238. The Mohole* of David Wells (* - Piehole)

Posted: April 23, 2012 at 11:24 PM (#4114437)

I'd like to take credit with my Cafardo bashing. I really came through in the clutch.

239. Phil Coorey. Posted: April 23, 2012 at 11:25 PM (#4114438)

Holy #### - they won?!

240. Steve Balboni's Personal Trainer Posted: April 23, 2012 at 11:25 PM (#4114439)

The first intelligent thing Cafardo said on TV tonight: Using Aceves as a three-out closer is not a great use of what Aceves appears to be good at. I don't think of him as a guy that will get you three big outs when you need them. He's really good at giving you two or three innings out of the pen three times a week.

Did anybody see Jenny Dell? Is she all that?

241. The Mohole* of David Wells (* - Piehole)

Posted: April 23, 2012 at 11:25 PM (#4114440)

Holy #### - they won?!

SIDEWAYS!

242. The Mohole* of David Wells (* - Piehole)

Posted: April 23, 2012 at 11:25 PM (#4114442)

The first intelligent thing Cafardo said on TV tonight: Using Aceves as a three-out closer is not a great use of what Aceves appears to be good at. I don't think of him as a guy that will get you three big outs when you need them. He's really good at giving you two or three innings out of the pen three times a week.

Did anybody see Jenny Dell? Is she all that?

A) Cafardo is a moron.
2) Jenny Dell is all that and a bag of chips.

243. Darren

Posted: April 23, 2012 at 11:26 PM (#4114443)

It's as simple as putting Bard back in there, and everything else falls into place!

244. The Mohole* of David Wells (* - Piehole)

Posted: April 23, 2012 at 11:26 PM (#4114444)

It's as simple as putting Bard back in there, and everything else falls into place!

Aren't you forgetting a little Cafardo-bashing? I really trash-talked the #### out of this team tonight. I've been super-positive about them so far. Tonight, when I give in to the hate a little, they win!

245. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: April 23, 2012 at 11:27 PM (#4114445)

Jenny Dell is the Jed Lowrie of the broadcast team. Some of us think she is a big step down from Heidi Watney and everyone else is wrong.

246. Dale Sams Posted: April 23, 2012 at 11:28 PM (#4114446)

Apparently I'm alone in how jaw-droppingly stupid I think it is (How firable) to take out your best reliever after 2/3 of an inning and bring in a guy who twice in a 14 game season has given up 3 runs without getting an out. Im stunned. I actually would consider wanting the Sox to lose to get that bozo Valentine out of there.

247. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: April 23, 2012 at 11:28 PM (#4114447)

Pie hole did an outstanding job tonight.

248. Darren

Posted: April 23, 2012 at 11:30 PM (#4114449)

Apparently I'm alone in how jaw-droppingly stupid I think it is (How firable) to take out your best reliever after 2/3 of an inning and bring in a guy who twice in a 14 game season has given up 3 runs without getting an out. Im stunned. I actually would consider wanting the Sox to lose to get that bozo Valentine out of there.

I'm not with you. They've determined that Aceves is good enough to be their closer--a few games should not change that generally. Bard is not perfect, either.

249. Jay Seaver Posted: April 23, 2012 at 11:31 PM (#4114451)

Eck is tremendously excited on the post-game show. Not that that's unusual, but happy-excited is good to hear.

250. Darren

Posted: April 23, 2012 at 11:32 PM (#4114452)

If you like Dell better, you've got sort of a one-track mind, I'd guess.

251. Steve Balboni's Personal Trainer Posted: April 23, 2012 at 11:36 PM (#4114454)

Eck is awesome - he talks about home runs as "taking it to the bridge", which I like. He knows talking about baseball is supposed to be fun, and he is fun, and unafraid to talk a little trash. He's got swagger, but he backs it up.

I just got a look at Jenny Dell interviewing Cody Ross in the post game. My first impression: if you think Jenny is better-looking than Heidi, you definitely value, um, one set of assets over all others.

252. Dale Sams Posted: April 23, 2012 at 11:36 PM (#4114455)

Bard doesn't have to be perfect. He has to be better than Aceves. He was pulled from the rotation to pitch high-leverage innings. Bringing him in was the right idea. But not letting him pitch another high-leverage inning is ####### stupid as hell.

And Aceves almost blew it again.

253. The Mohole* of David Wells (* - Piehole)

Posted: April 23, 2012 at 11:38 PM (#4114457)

And Aceves almost blew it again.

He was Papelbon-esque. I can live with that.

254. The Mohole* of David Wells (* - Piehole)

Posted: April 23, 2012 at 11:38 PM (#4114458)

If you like Dell better, you've got sort of a one-track mind, I'd guess.

I'd like a ticket on that train, please.

255. Dale Sams Posted: April 23, 2012 at 11:39 PM (#4114460)

I don't think Papelbon has ever given up 3 runs without getting an out. He's not Papelbonesque, you guys are ####### high.

256. The Mohole* of David Wells (* - Piehole)

Posted: April 23, 2012 at 11:39 PM (#4114461)

I don't think Papelbon has ever given up 3 runs without getting an out. He's not Papelbonesque, you guys are ####### high.

Tonight was EXACTLY how Papelbon saves went. Don't be revisionist. Papelbon never got easy saves and he himself even admitted it.

257. Darren

Posted: April 23, 2012 at 11:41 PM (#4114463)

Almost blew it means he got the job done. He actually got one deep fly and hung in in a tough AB at the end. Looked as good as Bard.

258. Dale Sams Posted: April 23, 2012 at 11:41 PM (#4114464)

Tonight was EXACTLY how Papelbon saves went. Don't be revisionist. Papelbon never got easy saves and he himself even admitted it.

Who's the revisionist? Please show me the game that Papelbon gave up 3 runs without getting an out? Do it twice and I'll blow you. (he might have done it once)

259. Dale Sams Posted: April 23, 2012 at 11:45 PM (#4114466)

He never got easy saves? He had a stretch last year alone of 14 appearances where he allowed one baserunner.

260. plink Posted: April 23, 2012 at 11:46 PM (#4114467)

Piehole, I think you now have to trash-talk in *every* game chatter.

261. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: April 23, 2012 at 11:52 PM (#4114470)

From Bobby V. on the 9th inning mound discussion "I just asked him are you trying to kill me?"

262. Dale Sams Posted: April 24, 2012 at 12:02 AM (#4114473)

I did like seeing the smiles in the face of impending doom.

263. The Mohole* of David Wells (* - Piehole)

Posted: April 24, 2012 at 12:06 AM (#4114475)

What the #### are you talking about, Dale? Aceves saved the game and didn't give up a run and got 3 outs. That's EXACTLY how many Papelbon saves went. Are you ####### insane?

264. The Mohole* of David Wells (* - Piehole)

Posted: April 24, 2012 at 12:08 AM (#4114477)

To be clear, what I'm talking about are the many, many "seat of your pants" saves that Papelbon got. Everyone around here ####### about how Papelbon "never" got easy saves. I am not making this up. I was around to hear the ######## for YEARS.

265. Dale Sams Posted: April 24, 2012 at 12:11 AM (#4114481)

Then you had your head up your piehole, but dont bother looking up Papelbons gamelogs from last year.

266. Dale Sams Posted: April 24, 2012 at 12:15 AM (#4114485)

SOMEHOW Papelbon managed to save 31 out of 34 save chances with a 0.933 WHIP...yet he never had any easy saves. Your memory like your brain has holes in it.

267. The Mohole* of David Wells (* - Piehole)

Posted: April 24, 2012 at 12:20 AM (#4114488)

Then you had your head up your piehole, but dont bother looking up Papelbons gamelogs from last year.

I'm gonna find the quote from Papelbon about not getting easy saves. He said it himself.

AND, you're the one tacking on the "I don't think Papelbon has ever given up 3 runs without getting an out." I was talking about tonight's game, and that's very clear from my comment above. And by my count, I see 12 games last year with ~1 P and 1 hit. That's not counting all the games with ~1 IP and more than 1 hit, nor is it counting the games with ~1 IP and 1 or more runs. I was making a light-hearted comment that Aceves reminded me of Papelbon's "interesting" saves, and you have to come in and blow up the discussion with an asinine comment about giving up 3 runs. Anyway, I don't really care about this conversation enough to talk more about it. I'm going to bed.

268. Phil Coorey. Posted: April 24, 2012 at 12:41 AM (#4114493)

Trash talking - reverse jinx shenanigans - and some sideways trash talking is what this team needs - keep it up guys

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