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   1. Bob T Posted: September 05, 2005 at 05:29 PM (#1598295)
The Giants inexorable climb to the top of the NL West continues.
   2. Dylan Formerly in Phx Posted: September 05, 2005 at 08:37 PM (#1598799)
Diamondbacks finally have a chance to gain ground on either SF or LA.
   3. Bob T Posted: September 05, 2005 at 08:39 PM (#1598804)
The only interesting race left in the NL West is for third.

Who will stumble less between LA and AZ? And can the Rockies keep up their charge to move into fourth or even third?
   4. GregQ Posted: September 05, 2005 at 10:35 PM (#1598946)
Bob, Do you think the Giants will keep this up? There have been buyod by timely hitting and good pitching, neither of which has been a trademark this year. The pitching does seem to have come around, but they are still often coming from behind to win.
   5. Bob T Posted: September 05, 2005 at 10:57 PM (#1598975)
The Giants have two reliable pitchers in Schmidt and Lowry and that should be enough to tip the scales in their favor.

In favor of finishing second that is.

I'm wondering when the Randy Winn warranty runs out.
   6. GregQ Posted: September 06, 2005 at 12:16 AM (#1599057)
I think that the aliens that inhabited Snow and Tomko last year and abandoned their old hosts and are now in Winn.
   7. GregQ Posted: September 06, 2005 at 12:28 AM (#1599071)
Joe Morgan said that Bonds could be back sa soon as tomorrow. In the very odd chance that they do make the playoffs, think his teammates willvote him a full share?
   8. Bob T Posted: September 06, 2005 at 12:39 AM (#1599077)
Yes, Bonds would get a full share if the Giants made the playoffs.

The Giants would get a playoff share (1%) if they finished second.
   9. covelli chris p Posted: September 06, 2005 at 12:48 AM (#1599081)
what the hell? bonds punched somebody in the face?
   10. Bob T Posted: September 06, 2005 at 01:02 AM (#1599094)
I think I have no idea what you're talking about.
   11. Tom was totally clowned by CW Posted: September 06, 2005 at 01:19 AM (#1599114)
I dunno...if you add bonds...look at the pitching the giants are getting...and realize that they have 20 games left in the NL west...they should probably be favored to take first if Bonds starts playing with them this week.
   12. Bob T Posted: September 06, 2005 at 01:26 AM (#1599119)
Favored? As in the Giants would make up a 5 1/2 game deficit in the last four weeks! As in they would have a greater than 50% chance if Bonds returned?

Denial is quite powerful.
   13. Tom was totally clowned by CW Posted: September 06, 2005 at 01:30 AM (#1599125)
as in they play seven games against the padres, who are not playing as well as the Giants are right now without bonds...and did i mention they play 20 games in the nl west...so when they aren't playing the padres they are playing the rockies or the d-backs...

it is one thing to make up 5 games against a team that is going to finish .600 plus....quite another to make up 5 games against a team that is passing .500 in the wrong direction.
   14. Tom was totally clowned by CW Posted: September 06, 2005 at 01:38 AM (#1599134)
btw, barry is in uniform in the dugout...I am betting they activate him tomorrow...if only as a pinch hitter, he can clearly hit right now, and there are no roster limitations to worry about.
   15. Bob T Posted: September 06, 2005 at 01:39 AM (#1599139)
The Rockies are actually playing about as well anyone else in the NL West, so they aren't exactly automatic wins.

But you said "favored". I don't think any rational person would favor the Giants to surpass the Padres.
   16. Tom was totally clowned by CW Posted: September 06, 2005 at 01:56 AM (#1599164)
Just based on their respective winning percentages since the All Star game the Giants should pick up about 3 games on the Pads by the end of the season...Fundamentally the Padres have been the 4th best team in the west for a while...

I think Bonds would be worth 3 games easy as he would be replacing the weakest spot in the lineup with a strong spot....
   17. Bob T Posted: September 06, 2005 at 01:59 AM (#1599172)
What about the games the Padres play against the Dodgers and Diamondbacks. They're likely to win a good chunk of those.

I'm not saying it's impossible for the Giants to win the NL West. But it's unlikely. You're assuming that the Giants will win every game against the Padres or lose no more than one.
   18. Tom was totally clowned by CW Posted: September 06, 2005 at 02:05 AM (#1599182)
Bob, i would agree, but the way they are playing the pads will be lucky to split against the dodgers, and only a slight favorite against the D-Backs....the Pads are playing .400 ball lately...if the Giants play .600 ball they WILL catch the pads.
   19. Bob T Posted: September 06, 2005 at 02:07 AM (#1599187)
The Padres were 15-12 in August and they're 2-2 in September, so I think they've righted the ship.
   20. The Rafael Bournigal fan club Posted: September 06, 2005 at 02:09 AM (#1599192)
Joe Morgan makes my brain hurt.
   21. Tom was totally clowned by CW Posted: September 06, 2005 at 02:10 AM (#1599194)
...oh and i was assuming the giants would win 4-5 of the seven head to head games....if the giants win 6 of the 7 that ties the division right there...and would probably win the division going away in the rest of the games...

5 games is trivial when the leading team hasn't played winning baseball in months.
   22. Tom was totally clowned by CW Posted: September 06, 2005 at 02:12 AM (#1599200)
yeah i just caught their winning in august...

was looking at the post all-star splits.
   23. Bob T Posted: September 06, 2005 at 02:15 AM (#1599203)
Tom,
You're just going through the same phase that AZ and LA fans went through at points this year.

The presence of Bonds just makes first place seem more enticing.
   24. Tom was totally clowned by CW Posted: September 06, 2005 at 02:15 AM (#1599204)
Tonight is more evidence that the Giants are getting maybe the best pitching in baseball right now.
   25. Bob T Posted: September 06, 2005 at 02:18 AM (#1599209)
Jack Taschner notwithstanding.
   26. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: September 06, 2005 at 02:21 AM (#1599214)
Damn. I was looking forward to the Jason Phillips DP.
   27. Bob T Posted: September 06, 2005 at 02:22 AM (#1599215)
If Ledee hits it on the ground, it will be a DP.
   28. Tom was totally clowned by CW Posted: September 06, 2005 at 02:24 AM (#1599220)
well that counts as another DP...
   29. Bob T Posted: September 06, 2005 at 02:25 AM (#1599221)
Giants still on pace to tie the major league record for DPs in a game. They have 5 through 7. The record is 7.
   30. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: September 06, 2005 at 02:25 AM (#1599222)
That's pretty damn funny.
   31. Bob T Posted: September 06, 2005 at 02:46 AM (#1599253)
The DP dream dies....
   32. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: September 06, 2005 at 02:55 AM (#1599271)
Man, Ray Durham has turned into one fragile dude.
   33. Bob T Posted: September 06, 2005 at 03:13 AM (#1599287)
So we've had a sac fly by a career AAA guy who hits under .100.

A sac fly DP.

A run on an error.

A steal of home.
   34. Tom was totally clowned by CW Posted: September 06, 2005 at 03:13 AM (#1599289)
Rare game...all 4 runs have scored on plays where the batter was retired...in 4 different ways...Sac Fly, sac fly DP, error with batter out advancing and a strikeout with a double steal. The Giants really won this game on the fundamentals and small ball...
   35. Tom was totally clowned by CW Posted: September 06, 2005 at 03:14 AM (#1599290)
Bob, get out of my head.

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