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Yankees (51-33) @ RedSox (43-42), Sunday, July 8, 2012, 8:05pm

NYY:Ivan Nova (25, RHP, 9-3, 4.05)
BOS:Jon Lester (28, LHP, 5-5, 4.33)

The Primer Chimp Posted: July 08, 2012 at 10:00 AM | 237 comment(s)
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201. Chip Posted: July 08, 2012 at 10:29 PM (#4176580)

Ciriaco did not look like an MLB second baseman on that play.

202. Chip Posted: July 08, 2012 at 10:30 PM (#4176582)

Hahahaha they're calling it a "cramp" in Gonzalez's shoulder? Yeah, and Lackey just had a bit of a cramp in his elbow last season.

The cramp talk was referring to Jeter's shoulder.

203. Dan Posted: July 08, 2012 at 10:34 PM (#4176588)

The cramp talk was referring to Jeter's shoulder.

Oh ok. So the company line on Gonzalez is still "flulike symptoms"?

204. Benji Gil Gamesh Rises Posted: July 08, 2012 at 10:35 PM (#4176589)

Their earlier stuff is also hit or miss for me.

I like "Feeling Good" off Origin of Symmetry and "Unintended" off SHowbiz, most of the rest, ehh.

205. Darren

Posted: July 08, 2012 at 10:36 PM (#4176591)

That's as far as Sweeny can hit the ball. He's learned at the feet of AGonz.

206. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: July 08, 2012 at 10:45 PM (#4176598)

What is that, 4 HR in the series for Andruw ####### Jones?

207. Jay Seaver Posted: July 08, 2012 at 10:47 PM (#4176601)

Spent the weekend up north seeing my family. I was the only one who wasn't completely demoralized about the Red Sox.

Was.

208. Chip Posted: July 08, 2012 at 10:49 PM (#4176603)

Pixie dust wearing off for Atchison? He's definitely a trade candidate for me: Cherington needs to convince someone he's Larry Andersen—the middle reliever you just have to have to fill out your pen, and soon—because I have a feeling his second half is going to be a disaster.

209. Dan Posted: July 08, 2012 at 10:51 PM (#4176605)

Atchison is definitely a fluke. He is an acceptable right-handed specialist, nothing more.

210. Textbook Editor Posted: July 08, 2012 at 11:01 PM (#4176619)

Atchison is definitely a fluke. He is an acceptable right-handed specialist, nothing more.

Not dealing him yet is going to be a huge mistake. He had value when he had the shiny ERA. Once that goes, he's have zero value.

211. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: July 08, 2012 at 11:09 PM (#4176624)

I sincerely doubt that Atchison ever had value. As much as we love to think MLB GMs are morons there is a limit to just how far that stupidity extends.

212. King Berenger Posted: July 08, 2012 at 11:13 PM (#4176630)

What about his track record with the Tigers? Hanshin Tigers, that is.

213. Chip Posted: July 08, 2012 at 11:15 PM (#4176633)

I don't know, I think we need to aim for getting a Bagwell-type talent for him.

214. Dan Posted: July 08, 2012 at 11:23 PM (#4176639)

I don't know, I think we need to aim for getting a Bagwell-type talent for him.

Maybe we can find a GM dumb enough to give us a switch-hitting power-hitting shortstop with a history of injury troubles for him. Nah, no one would be that dumb.

215. Textbook Editor Posted: July 08, 2012 at 11:27 PM (#4176644)

Maybe we can find a GM dumb enough to give us a switch-hitting power-hitting shortstop with a history of injury troubles for him. Nah, no one would be that dumb.

I honestly am blanking on who this could be... Rollins?

216. Textbook Editor Posted: July 08, 2012 at 11:28 PM (#4176645)

Oh... duh. Lowrie.

217. Textbook Editor Posted: July 08, 2012 at 11:28 PM (#4176646)

I'll leave 215 up as evidence of my decline phase.

218. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: July 08, 2012 at 11:29 PM (#4176647)

Maybe we can find a GM dumb enough to give us a switch-hitting power-hitting shortstop with a history of injury troubles for him. Nah, no one would be that dumb.

Would that shortstop put up a .306 OBP for the last two months leading to the all star break continuing his career trend of having an awesome three weeks followed by sucking for several months? I know where we can find one of those.

219. Chip Posted: July 08, 2012 at 11:30 PM (#4176648)

Maybe we can find a GM dumb enough to give us a switch-hitting power-hitting shortstop with a history of injury troubles for him. Nah, no one would be that dumb.

Sounds like a guy who's .165/.280.282 over his last 100 PAs (and that's before his 0-3 with a walk today).

220. Dan Posted: July 08, 2012 at 11:31 PM (#4176651)

Would that shortstop put up a .306 OBP for the last two months leading to the all star break continuing his career trend of having an awesome three weeks followed by sucking for several months? I know where we can find one of those.

The guy they held onto to replace him with has a .280 OBP on the entire season. So Lowrie's OBP during his slump is better than Aviles's season OBP, and that's an argument that dumping Lowrie wasn't a poor move?

221. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: July 08, 2012 at 11:33 PM (#4176653)

The guy they held onto to replace him with has a .280 OBP on the entire season. So Lowrie's OBP during his slump is better than Aviles's season OBP, and that's an argument that dumping Lowrie wasn't a poor move?

It's an argument that Lowrie is not that good.

222. Dan Posted: July 08, 2012 at 11:34 PM (#4176655)

Aviles over his last 160 PA: .252 OBP, .561 OPS

223. Chip Posted: July 08, 2012 at 11:36 PM (#4176657)

So Lowrie's OBP during his slump is better than Aviles's season OBP, and that's an argument that dumping Lowrie wasn't a poor move?

Yeah, but that's a healthy Lowrie. What's his OBP going to be when he gets rickets?

224. Dan Posted: July 08, 2012 at 11:36 PM (#4176658)

Lowrie has 2.3 WAR over half a season. If the Red Sox had more players who were "not that good", maybe they'd be in position to make the playoffs.

225. Dan Posted: July 08, 2012 at 11:38 PM (#4176659)

"carrying to the seats...and off the Monster on the fly"

Nice call, Shulman. Taking lessons from Don Orsillo?

226. Jay Seaver Posted: July 08, 2012 at 11:40 PM (#4176660)

Phooey.

227. Dan Posted: July 08, 2012 at 11:41 PM (#4176661)

That was a tease from Nava. Really thought that was going to at least get the wall for a double. Sigh.

228. Chip Posted: July 08, 2012 at 11:44 PM (#4176664)

That was a tease from Nava. Really thought that was going to at least get the wall for a double. Sigh.

Wind blowing in. Even Cano failed to hit one out that way.

229. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: July 08, 2012 at 11:50 PM (#4176671)

Andruw Jones was a whisker away from 5 god damn HRs in 3 games.

230. Jay Seaver Posted: July 08, 2012 at 11:52 PM (#4176673)

I don't dread seeing Aceves yet, but he's just no fun to watch these days. He spends a lot of time on that line between decent results and aggravating process.

231. Textbook Editor Posted: July 08, 2012 at 11:55 PM (#4176675)

Andruw Jones was a whisker away from 5 god damn HRs in 3 games.

Whoever compiled the scouting report on how to pitch to him should probably be fired.

232. Chip Posted: July 09, 2012 at 12:02 AM (#4176678)

Papi once again makes up for Adrian's absence, this time by chasing a pitch over his head on 3-2.

233. Chip Posted: July 09, 2012 at 12:04 AM (#4176679)

Valentine needs to run out and punch Punto in the face for swinging at that 3-1 pitch. His job is to take there until he can't.

234. Chip Posted: July 09, 2012 at 12:04 AM (#4176680)

Should be bases loaded, no outs, tying run at the plate.

235. Chip Posted: July 09, 2012 at 12:05 AM (#4176682)

Strike two to Ross was a ####### joke.

236. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: July 09, 2012 at 12:10 AM (#4176684)

Salty in this series: 1-14, 10 K's (1 HR, 1 BB)

237. The Yankee Clapper Posted: July 09, 2012 at 12:10 AM (#4176685)

Three of four on the road is pretty good.

238. Jay Seaver Posted: July 09, 2012 at 12:10 AM (#4176686)

Back to .500 and last place. Awesome.

I eagerly await whatever bizarre disasters come in the second half.

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