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Saturday, April 21, 2012

Yankees (8-6) @ RedSox (4-9), Saturday, April 21, 2012, 4:05pm

NYY:Freddy Garcia (35, RHP, 0-1, 6.97)
BOS:Felix Doubront (24, LHP, 0-0, 5.40)

The Primer Chimp Posted: April 21, 2012 at 10:00 AM | 236 comment(s)
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1. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: April 21, 2012 at 03:38 PM (#4112296)

...game chatter venting what I shouldn't say on the blog...

What in the holy #### is wrong with all you people? Ten games and you're talking about giving up? Ten games and you're calling average players worthless and proposing the club trade Youkilis and fire the manager and put Daniel Nava in center field?

I get venting - I'm venting right now! - but is every ####### Red Sox thread going to be filled with bad arguments and hair-pulling illogic? I really ####### hope the Red Sox win some games, because it's going to drive me insane.

2. Dan Posted: April 21, 2012 at 04:13 PM (#4112334)

Jesus Christ, Salty...

3. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: April 21, 2012 at 04:15 PM (#4112336)

One way of looking at it.

In a seven-game playoff series between evenly matched clubs, the team with home field advantage will win about 52% of the time. If they lose the first game, their chances of winning the series drop to about 34%.

This is about what's happened to the Sox playoff chances so far. If you don't freak out after losing Game 1, don't freak out after losing a couple extra games in the first two weeks.

4. Dan Posted: April 21, 2012 at 04:19 PM (#4112338)

It would really be nice to hang a crooked number on Garcia.

5. Dan Posted: April 21, 2012 at 04:20 PM (#4112339)

I really do like Sweeney, but losing Reddick to get him really bothers me.

6. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: April 21, 2012 at 04:21 PM (#4112340)

I kind of like agitated MCoA, he's not usually that worked up.

7. Dan Posted: April 21, 2012 at 04:23 PM (#4112341)

I feel the same way he does. The one thing that especially bothers me is the clamoring to trade Youkilis for pennies on the dollar since he's had a slow start. Obviously he's cooked, right? No good player has ever had a bad 2 weeks to start the season.

8. Dan Posted: April 21, 2012 at 04:25 PM (#4112342)

Joe Buck's yelling on Gonzalez's double scared my cat.

9. Cowboy Popup Posted: April 21, 2012 at 04:26 PM (#4112344)

Joe Buck will talk about anything other than baseball when he does these games.

10. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: April 21, 2012 at 04:27 PM (#4112345)

I'm only half-listening to Buck, what the hell was he talking about with high cholesterol and donuts? Was that about him? Or Ortiz?

Incidentally, I had thought that Hughes was going to be the odd man out when Pettitte came back because he could be more easily moved to the bullpen, but I'm beginning to think that Garcia is cooked.

11. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: April 21, 2012 at 04:27 PM (#4112346)

12. Dan Posted: April 21, 2012 at 04:27 PM (#4112347)

Good to see them hitting a guy who they should hit well.

13. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: April 21, 2012 at 04:29 PM (#4112349)

MCoA - intellectually I agree with you. As a Red Sox fan though the last month and a half of competitive baseball have been dreary and the off-season saw the two best at their "position" leave the Sox in Theo and Tito.

FWIW I'm certainly not giving up on this team but I will concede to a high degree of pessimism but I'm trying to at least be rational on the threads but on the chatters I reserve the right to go a full-Coorey until we start winning some games.

14. Dan Posted: April 21, 2012 at 04:30 PM (#4112351)

Yes you would think a fan base who has watched Ortiz look cooked in April for 3 of the past 5 years would be familiar with the concept of sticking with a guy with a proven track record through a cold spell to start the year. And Youkilis hasn't looked half as bad as Ortiz looked during those awful Aprils.

15. plink Posted: April 21, 2012 at 04:32 PM (#4112353)

MCoA, I'm totally with you. On the other hand, I felt the same way with 10 games to go in 2011.

16. Dan Posted: April 21, 2012 at 04:36 PM (#4112356)

Where did that miss, exactly?

17. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: April 21, 2012 at 04:40 PM (#4112357)

Think we got a bit of a break on the 3-2 pitch. I thought the 2-2 was low.

18. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: April 21, 2012 at 04:42 PM (#4112360)

Man, that must be disappointing. You're in the Boys and Girls Club, they take you to Yankee Stadium and who do you meet? Two broadcasters you've never heard of. I hope those kids got to meet some players too.

19. Dan Posted: April 21, 2012 at 04:42 PM (#4112361)

It was a ball, he swung.

20. Dan Posted: April 21, 2012 at 04:43 PM (#4112363)

Man, that must be disappointing. You're in the Boys and Girls Club, they take you to Yankee Stadium and who do you meet? Two broadcasters you've never heard of. I hope those kids got to meet some players too.

Hey, at least thy got to go past the moat and get close to the field!

21. The Mohole* of David Wells (* - Piehole)

Posted: April 21, 2012 at 04:45 PM (#4112364)

Freddy is up in the zone. Lot of balls being popped up.

22. Cowboy Popup Posted: April 21, 2012 at 04:47 PM (#4112365)

Freddy does not have it to start the season.

23. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: April 21, 2012 at 04:48 PM (#4112367)

Well, I have a feeling my afternoon is about to open up.

24. Dan Posted: April 21, 2012 at 04:50 PM (#4112371)

Gotta get at least one more run here.

25. Dan Posted: April 21, 2012 at 04:53 PM (#4112373)

I suspect that's it for Garcia.

Yup. Rapada coming in.

26. The Mohole* of David Wells (* - Piehole)

Posted: April 21, 2012 at 04:53 PM (#4112374)

Hello BABIP my old friend. Good to see you again.

27. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: April 21, 2012 at 04:56 PM (#4112376)

Well, in the department of things I was very wrong about--hello, Ozzie Guillen and Colter Bean!--I thought letting Colon walk and re-signing Garcia was the right move.

28. The Mohole* of David Wells (* - Piehole)

Posted: April 21, 2012 at 05:00 PM (#4112377)

Nice sink on Doubront's high fastball. Let's hope it stays that way.

29. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: April 21, 2012 at 05:03 PM (#4112380)

FWIW I'm certainly not giving up on this team but I will concede to a high degree of pessimismbutI'm trying to at least be rational on the threads but on the chatters I reserve the right to go a full-Coorey until we start winning some games.

Of course. Chatter is chatter. (that's why I decided to drop my f bombs here.) I was pissed because it felt like that stuff had taken over all the Sox threads on the main board.

Go Felix!

30. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: April 21, 2012 at 05:08 PM (#4112382)

That second inning rally happening as the Bruins scored twice in thirty seconds greatly improved my mood on this Saturday.

31. Phil Coorey. Posted: April 21, 2012 at 05:09 PM (#4112383)

Morning all - hope everyone is well.

32. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: April 21, 2012 at 05:10 PM (#4112384)

It is Phil. How are you and yours?

33. Phil Coorey. Posted: April 21, 2012 at 05:13 PM (#4112387)

Anyone think the crowd went crazy nuts for Pedro yesterday, as now people realize what it was like to have an ace??? We really have not seen one since that has been consistently great have we???

34. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: April 21, 2012 at 05:15 PM (#4112389)

Squander time!

35. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: April 21, 2012 at 05:16 PM (#4112390)

Would have been a disaster to get nothing so st least we got one.

36. Phil Coorey. Posted: April 21, 2012 at 05:17 PM (#4112391)

It is Phil. How are you and yours?

Jose, quite well.

Been exceptionally busy - even struggling to see the night games right now. In the midst of one of best April's business wise in 2-3 years (don't worry Jan to March ####### sucked) - really miss chatter to be honest - but sort of glad I am missing games they suck in.

How have you been mate?

37. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: April 21, 2012 at 05:18 PM (#4112393)

Pretty good . The mild weather has been a real boon to my mood.

38. Dan Posted: April 21, 2012 at 05:19 PM (#4112394)

Why are Buck and McCarver praising Phelps so much? Because of one relief appearance last week?

39. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: April 21, 2012 at 05:24 PM (#4112396)

Been exceptionally busy - even struggling to see the night games right now. In the midst of one of best April's business wise in 2-3 years (don't worry Jan to March ####### sucked)

Glad to hear things have perked up business-wise. Otherwise I might have had to make another trip to perk things up.

Incidentally, I've switched to Top Gear on DVR so if anyone hits an inside-the-park grand slam or something, let me know.

40. Phil Coorey. Posted: April 21, 2012 at 05:25 PM (#4112397)

Pretty good . The mild weather has been a real boon to my mood.

It has looked AMAZING - my cousin ran the Boston Marathon (picked me up some cool 100 years of Fenway stuff as well) and is raving about the weather.

41. Phil Coorey. Posted: April 21, 2012 at 05:27 PM (#4112399)

Glad to hear things have perked up business-wise. Otherwise I might have had to make another trip to perk things up.

Long way to go but thanks mate - three day beer festival and a few other goodies have the place humming along. Thankfully after a slow start to the year , I am not thinking that I am done as Buck and Fukarver are suggesting....

42. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: April 21, 2012 at 05:28 PM (#4112400)

(Brief Sox Chatterers social aside!)

I meant to post something before last Sunday's game just in case anyone else from Chatter was going, but the girlfriend and I went to the game...last Sunday. (There was probably a less awkward way to phrase that sentence.) It was her first Sox game and first baseball game in general. I think she enjoyed the atmosphere even though she's not much of a sports person. She was also bemused by the existence of the 'Yankees Suck' chant even with the Sox playing another team.

More to the point (for Phil at least), we had gone down on Saturday and we ate at The Publick House. I had the Trappistes Rochefort 10 and holy #### that beer was amazing. It definitely lived up to its reputation for me.

43. Dan Posted: April 21, 2012 at 05:30 PM (#4112402)

Doubront's making good use of that cutter/slider.

44. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: April 21, 2012 at 05:35 PM (#4112404)

Robothal saying Bowden for Byrd is the deal.

45. Phil Coorey. Posted: April 21, 2012 at 05:35 PM (#4112405)

More to the point (for Phil at least), we had gone down on Saturday and we ate at The Publick House. I had the Trappistes Rochefort 10 and holy #### that beer was amazing. It definitely lived up to its reputation for me.

Just an insanely great beer - all times of amazing and probably my favourite Belgian beer

Here's a funny (shady) Rochefort story - my rep gave me 6 of their glasses for the first time ever ..."just give them to your best customers or use them at the pub"

Yeah Right

Sold each and every one for $40 bucks each and used the cash for our holiday

Win win !

46. Phil Coorey. Posted: April 21, 2012 at 05:36 PM (#4112406)

This is not a ground breaking trade you idiots - seriously

47. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: April 21, 2012 at 05:37 PM (#4112407)

(Brief Sox Chatterers social aside!)

I took my girlfriend to the Yankee game on Thursday. She'd been to baseball games before but never a Yankee game and never with me. It would have been nice had it been 15 degrees warmer, but I managed to not reveal just what a dork/obsessive I am, so she expressed an interest in going again. Although that might have largely been attributable to the presence of garlic fries.

48. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: April 21, 2012 at 05:38 PM (#4112408)

Nothing makes a house smell as good as a pot of tomato sauce simmering.

49. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: April 21, 2012 at 05:38 PM (#4112410)

Well this can't be good news.

50. Phil Coorey. Posted: April 21, 2012 at 05:39 PM (#4112411)

Nate Spears is as bad as advertised - wow

51. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: April 21, 2012 at 05:42 PM (#4112413)

Well, we won't be able to trade Youkilis if he's hurt.

52. Dan Posted: April 21, 2012 at 05:43 PM (#4112414)

I assume they're just being cautious with Youkilis given the 7 run lead.

53. Dan Posted: April 21, 2012 at 05:45 PM (#4112416)

Going to have help in the rotation? Who are the Sox going to pull from this rotation right now?

54. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: April 21, 2012 at 05:55 PM (#4112419)

Going to have help in the rotation? Who are the Sox going to pull from this rotation right now?

Bard to the bullpen? They have to be at least discussing it. With a seven...oops nine, run lead I don't trust this bullpen

55. Dan Posted: April 21, 2012 at 05:56 PM (#4112420)

The perfect game no one saw happen.

56. Phil Coorey. Posted: April 21, 2012 at 05:58 PM (#4112421)

They are allowed to talk NFL when they mention my boy, RG3

57. Dan Posted: April 21, 2012 at 06:07 PM (#4112428)

Seriously, Humber working on a perfecto during a game under Fox's national blackout during Yankees - Red Sox. How many people are able to watch that game? Illinois, Washingon, and Oregon?

58. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: April 21, 2012 at 06:10 PM (#4112430)

Fox will be going to that game in the ninth.

59. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: April 21, 2012 at 06:12 PM (#4112432)

Pasta diving Nunez!

And who was the player or coach thumbing through the media guide?

60. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: April 21, 2012 at 06:15 PM (#4112436)

The Byrd deal is official. It's Bowden.

61. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: April 21, 2012 at 06:19 PM (#4112441)

Split screen? Seriously?

62. Dan Posted: April 21, 2012 at 06:20 PM (#4112442)

Why is Padilla pitching with an 8 run lead? He's been one of the only good relievers for this team.

63. Dan Posted: April 21, 2012 at 06:20 PM (#4112446)

Humber feeling the pressure as he goes to 3-0.

64. Dan Posted: April 21, 2012 at 06:21 PM (#4112447)

Nice recovery!

65. Swedish Chef Posted: April 21, 2012 at 06:22 PM (#4112449)

One out...

66. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: April 21, 2012 at 06:25 PM (#4112453)

Padilla killing me.

67. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: April 21, 2012 at 06:25 PM (#4112455)

What a finish!

68. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: April 21, 2012 at 06:26 PM (#4112459)

And we suck.

69. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: April 21, 2012 at 06:26 PM (#4112460)

Well, that was nothing close to a swing by Ryan, but I suppose that evens up the Joyce call

70. Dan Posted: April 21, 2012 at 06:29 PM (#4112468)

Jesus Christ, Padilla...

71. booond Posted: April 21, 2012 at 06:31 PM (#4112470)

Give Padilla a breathalyzer.

72. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: April 21, 2012 at 06:34 PM (#4112478)

Really? They're going to manage to blow THIS one?

73. Random Transaction Generator Posted: April 21, 2012 at 06:34 PM (#4112479)

Fenway might not last the night if the Red Sox blow this game.

74. Dan Posted: April 21, 2012 at 06:35 PM (#4112481)

This bullpen is just unbelievable.

75. Cowboy Popup Posted: April 21, 2012 at 06:35 PM (#4112482)

Talk about a totally unexpected come back. Holy cow!

76. Koot Posted: April 21, 2012 at 06:35 PM (#4112483)

Wow... this is tough to watch. What a horrible bullpen. Is it me, or does it seem like McCarver and Buck are enjoying this?

77. Srul Itza Posted: April 21, 2012 at 06:35 PM (#4112484)

This game has tightened up a bit, eh?

78. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: April 21, 2012 at 06:36 PM (#4112485)

Fenway might not last the night if the Red Sox blow this game.

If they lose this game, Bobby V. better hire these guys.

79. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: April 21, 2012 at 06:36 PM (#4112487)

Is it me, or does it seem like McCarver and Buck are enjoying this?

I'm sure they are, but I'm equally sure it is because a huge comeback and a close game is a far better thing for them professionally than out of any rooting interest.

80. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: April 21, 2012 at 06:37 PM (#4112488)

Philip Humber brought us good luck.

81. Cowboy Popup Posted: April 21, 2012 at 06:37 PM (#4112489)

Teixeira going the other way for a HR, I mean, that almost never happens. I guess I have to temporarily stop yelling at the TV for the time being. He season numbers are finally respectable.

82. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: April 21, 2012 at 06:38 PM (#4112490)

Outs would be really nice.

83. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: April 21, 2012 at 06:38 PM (#4112491)

You gotta bring in Aceves now. This is insane.

84. Cowboy Popup Posted: April 21, 2012 at 06:39 PM (#4112492)

Wow, can you tell I've been napping most of the game from my last post?

85. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: April 21, 2012 at 06:41 PM (#4112493)

bleh, andruw...

86. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: April 21, 2012 at 06:42 PM (#4112494)

He'll waste one here, send Curtis...

87. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: April 21, 2012 at 06:44 PM (#4112495)

Well, I'll certainly take that.

88. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: April 21, 2012 at 06:44 PM (#4112496)

This reminds me of Game 1 of the 2004 ALCS. Anyone else?

89. Dan Posted: April 21, 2012 at 06:45 PM (#4112497)

So...Aceves for a 2 inning save?

90. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: April 21, 2012 at 06:45 PM (#4112500)

This reminds me of Game 1 of the 2004 ALCS. Anyone else?

I can see that. Let's see if Boston add on their tack-on runs because--and here comes some shocking news--they don't have a Mariano Rivera

91. Phil Coorey. Posted: April 21, 2012 at 06:45 PM (#4112501)

This reminds me of Game 1 of the 2004 ALCS. Anyone else?

A little now that you mention it

92. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: April 21, 2012 at 06:47 PM (#4112503)

Yes, I've never felt more relief than when Bernie's ball sailed past Manny Ramirez to (probably) ice the game. The four Mets fans I was watching the game with were getting more and more insufferable with each passing moment.

93. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: April 21, 2012 at 06:47 PM (#4112504)

Oops, and here's Soriano to ensure the tack-on runs.

94. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: April 21, 2012 at 06:47 PM (#4112505)

Soriano is not a great bet to keep this a one run game.

95. Dan Posted: April 21, 2012 at 06:48 PM (#4112506)

Soriano looks like ####. 90 on the fastball?

96. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: April 21, 2012 at 06:48 PM (#4112507)

Can we just admit that the Sox are going to be lucky to be a .500 team this year? They are terrible, that inning was utterly predictable. Why is Valentine taking heat while Cherington is under the radar? This is a ludicrous bullpen he has put together.

There is zero chance we are winning this game.

97. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: April 21, 2012 at 06:49 PM (#4112509)

What a ####### piece of garbage this ######## is.

98. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: April 21, 2012 at 06:49 PM (#4112511)

The Sox need at least three more runs.

99. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: April 21, 2012 at 06:49 PM (#4112512)

God, I hate Soriano. I hated that signing from Day One. We'll add that to the list of things I was right about--Hello David Robertson!

100. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: April 21, 2012 at 06:49 PM (#4112513)

Joba really was a big loss. He's nothing brilliant but watching Soriano get these innings is enraging.

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