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Saturday, April 21, 2012

Yankees (8-6) @ RedSox (4-9), Saturday, April 21, 2012, 4:05pm

NYY:Freddy Garcia (35, RHP, 0-1, 6.97)
BOS:Felix Doubront (24, LHP, 0-0, 5.40)

The Primer Chimp Posted: April 21, 2012 at 10:00 AM | 236 comment(s)
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201. President of the David Eckstein Fan Club Posted: April 21, 2012 at 07:31 PM (#4112626)

On the positive side, this game greatly increases the chance the Red Sox respond positively to the resume and scouting video of my slo-pitch performances that I sent them.

202. Srul Itza Posted: April 21, 2012 at 07:32 PM (#4112627)

If they don't knock down Swish here, their next throw-back uniform should include a skirt.

203. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: April 21, 2012 at 07:33 PM (#4112628)

Seriously, 8 homers, 23 runs in two days and no one gets dusted? Have some professional pride for God's sake.

204. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: April 21, 2012 at 07:33 PM (#4112629)

I think that Bobby Valentine should be let go after the game. I really do. It's not like this is all his fault or anything, but the players obviously hate him, and he kind of sucks at his job anyway.

205. AndrewJ Posted: April 21, 2012 at 07:33 PM (#4112631)

This is the September 1978 Boston Massacre weekend condensed into three innings.

206. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: April 21, 2012 at 07:33 PM (#4112632)

Things I Have Learned This Evening:
The Red Sox bullpen may actually be as bad as Sox' fans claim

Buy three pieces of lamb of different thickness means you eat your dinner in three tapas-style courses

My smoke alarm apparently does not work, as I have filled my apartment with smoke from the fat on the alarm, to no reaction

207. Dan Posted: April 21, 2012 at 07:34 PM (#4112633)

I wonder if Valentine could unilaterally start using Bard in the pen and dare the pencil pushers to stop him...

Even if he could or did, what would that solve? One effective arm doesn't make a bullpen.

208. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: April 21, 2012 at 07:34 PM (#4112635)

God bless the souls singing Sweet Caroline.

209. Srul Itza Posted: April 21, 2012 at 07:35 PM (#4112637)

Over the last two inning, the Yankees sent 23 men to the plate -- Humber faced 27 all day.

210. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: April 21, 2012 at 07:35 PM (#4112638)

Meh. Brushback pitches are stupid and infantile. I'm glad they haven't gone that route (yet).

211. President of the David Eckstein Fan Club Posted: April 21, 2012 at 07:36 PM (#4112639)

Seriously, 8 homers, 23 runs in two days and no one gets dusted? Have some professional pride for God's sake.

To be fair, the Yankees would probably hit a brushback pitch for a 2 run double too.

212. The Yankee Clapper Posted: April 21, 2012 at 07:37 PM (#4112642)

Red Sox should probably have extra security for Sunday night's game to keep the fans from storming the ESPN booth and carrying Francona down to the dugout.

213. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: April 21, 2012 at 07:38 PM (#4112644)

I think that Bobby Valentine should be let go after the game. I really do. It's not like this is all his fault or anything, but the players obviously hate him, and he kind of sucks at his job anyway.

I kind of feel that way too. This bunch of spoiled little ####### crybabies isn't going to play for him and there is ample time to save the season.

Meh. Brushback pitches are stupid and infantile. I'm glad they haven't gone that route (yet).

214. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: April 21, 2012 at 07:39 PM (#4112646)

They weren't ordering pizza, McCarver you dumb ass, they were ordering fried chicken!

How do you get that part of the story wrong?

215. Dan Posted: April 21, 2012 at 07:40 PM (#4112648)

I'm not looking to plunk someone just for the hell of it. The Yankee hitters are far too comfortable in the box and the Sox need to do something to keep them from just teeing off. If not a brushback...something.

You know what's a better way to stop them from teeing off? Actually throwing good pitches.

216. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: April 21, 2012 at 07:41 PM (#4112649)

I'm not looking to plunk someone just for the hell of it. The Yankee hitters are far too comfortable in the box and the Sox need to do something to keep them from just teeing off.

The only time in recorded history that a brushback pitch has ever accomplished that goal was Pedro's on Matsui. It just doesn't really work against major league hitters.

217. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: April 21, 2012 at 07:42 PM (#4112650)

I'm not looking to plunk someone just for the hell of it. The Yankee hitters are far too comfortable in the box and the Sox need to do something to keep them from just teeing off. If not a brushback...something.

You know what's a better way to stop them from teeing off? Actually throwing good pitches.

Many MANY Sox fans name the turning point of the 2004 ALCS victory to Pedro Martinez knocking Matsui down. It's balderdash of course, put people believe in this kind of stuff. I remember the NY Post running back page headlines about how the Yankees need to "Drop-i Papi" in 2005 or so, too.

218. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: April 21, 2012 at 07:42 PM (#4112652)

Ha, Biff, don't tell me you believe it too!

219. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: April 21, 2012 at 07:43 PM (#4112653)

This has gone from reminding me of Game 1 of the 2004 ALCS to Game 3 of the 2004 ALCS. That's way more than I ever like to think about the 2004 ALCS, ever.

220. AndrewJ Posted: April 21, 2012 at 07:43 PM (#4112654)

The Yanks have scored 14 runs in 2 innings -- the Phillies have scored 13 runs in their last 45 innings.

221. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: April 21, 2012 at 07:43 PM (#4112655)

You know what's a better way to stop them from teeing off? Actually throwing good pitches.

They can't do that.

Look, I'm not expecting the Yankees to get intimidated but the Sox are simply not using the whole plate, moving the hitter's eyes and feet and keeping them off balance. Hell my 10 year old little league catcher knows to move the glove around a bit behind the plate.

222. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: April 21, 2012 at 07:44 PM (#4112656)

The Yanks have scored 14 runs in 2 innings

The Sox have 14 runs in their last 26 innings.

223. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: April 21, 2012 at 07:46 PM (#4112657)

Show some ####### pride you pieces of ####.

224. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: April 21, 2012 at 07:46 PM (#4112658)

The worst part of a non-contending year (if that is what this turns out to be) is that it will give Remy and Orsillo even more license to do their stupid shtick.

225. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: April 21, 2012 at 07:48 PM (#4112660)

So after tomorrow they will incredibly be 4-11, one game worse than last year at the same time. Good thing they got rid of the beer.

226. The Yankee Clapper Posted: April 21, 2012 at 07:48 PM (#4112661)

While it's fun (for some of us) to make light of Valentine's tenure, he's not really the problem, as far as I can tell. Replacing the GM & manager doesn't seem to have helped though.

227. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: April 21, 2012 at 07:49 PM (#4112663)

Tazawa for closer!

228. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: April 21, 2012 at 07:52 PM (#4112665)

The shift makes no appreciable difference when the Yankees play it, as far as I can tell.

229. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: April 21, 2012 at 07:53 PM (#4112666)

McCarver knows Epply pitched in the game yesterday, right? Or is he just a total jackass?

(I mean, I know he's a total jackass, but...)

230. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: April 21, 2012 at 07:54 PM (#4112667)

So after tomorrow they will incredibly be 4-11, one game worse than last year at the same time.

Tomorrow is going to be rained out.

231. Swedish Chef Posted: April 21, 2012 at 07:55 PM (#4112668)

They're bringing in a guy to face the dreaded Nate Spears? Seems like overmanaging.

232. Swedish Chef Posted: April 21, 2012 at 07:56 PM (#4112670)

Of course, the tactical mastermind in Boston unleashes Nick Punto instead.

233. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: April 21, 2012 at 07:59 PM (#4112672)

Tomorrow is going to be rained out.

I'm confident that they can still pick up a loss.

234. Blastin Posted: April 21, 2012 at 08:51 PM (#4112695)

I have honestly never seen anything like that (in a positive way). I don't remember the 06 game very well (I might have been busy that night or something).

Alfredo Aceves =/= Mariano Rivera.

235. Jolly Old St. Nick Done Jumped The Ship

Posted: April 21, 2012 at 10:02 PM (#4112742)

Funny, games like this at Fenway always make me think of Opening Day in...2009, maybe?

Actually it was almost a dead ringer for 1950. Check out the line score for that game:

Yankees 0 0 0 0 0 4 0 9 2 15 15 0
Red Sox 3 1 0 5 0 0 1 0 0 10 15 0

Billy Martin made his debut in that game and became the only player in history to get two hits in one inning in his first two AB's in the Majors.

236. RollingWave Posted: April 22, 2012 at 11:25 PM (#4113428)

One of Cashman's worst moves ever was letting this guy walk for nothing.

Or maybe it's his best move ever to plant a huge mole ? :P

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