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Wednesday, November 02, 2016

Game 6 Feelings

World Series game 7 Cubs

I really don’t have any words tonight, though there’s plenty to talk about.  Maybe I’ll be able to write some coherent sentences then.

Moses Taylor, Unwavering Optimist Posted: November 02, 2016 at 12:01 AM | 26 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Moses Taylor, Unwavering Optimist Posted: November 02, 2016 at 12:05 AM (#5341149)
####, that doesn't work. I'll fix it in the morning.

That's better. I'll still shrink it more later.
   2. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: November 02, 2016 at 12:10 AM (#5341151)
The top 3 in post season HR for the Cubs (all tied for first), are batting 2, 3, and 4 in game 7 of the WS today.
   3. Meatwad needs baseball Posted: November 02, 2016 at 12:26 AM (#5341160)
Rumor has it the city mandated that the bars in wrigley have a cover charge this past weekend in wrigleyville and the city got a 20% cut.

Anyways if anyone is going to cleveland tomorrow let me know Ill throw down gas to get there and back, and I live along the way there
   4. Spahn Insane, stimulus-funded BurlyMan™ Posted: November 02, 2016 at 12:46 AM (#5341165)
Where's the "like" button?
   5. Spahn Insane, stimulus-funded BurlyMan™ Posted: November 02, 2016 at 12:47 AM (#5341166)
Meat, if I were more established in my job (been there 4 months), I'd probably take you up on it, even though you're no longer on the way.
   6. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: November 02, 2016 at 12:49 AM (#5341167)
What a night.

I felt strangely calm up until about an hour before game time. My heart was already pounding a bit when the first pitch was thrown, so it was a much-appreciated relief when Bryant launched one into the left field seats.

The Russell grand slam has to be up there as one of THE moments of this post-season. We've been a bit spoiled and seen quite a few worthy candidates, so it's tough to pick right now, especially since my brain is fried.

If you're an Indians fan, you still have to feel good with your best starter going and your top relievers fresh and ready to roll. But if you put much stock into momentum, you have to think there's a sense of uneasiness about it all.

Man, Game 7! I'll be a wreck all day tomorrow, but I suppose it's fitting that this particular match-up necessitated the maximum number of games to finally end a drought.
   7. Meatwad needs baseball Posted: November 02, 2016 at 12:53 AM (#5341170)
Tomorrow is going to be the longest day of our lives. Hell time seems to be at a stand still now.
   8. Ardo Posted: November 02, 2016 at 12:57 AM (#5341172)
The Cubs' 2 through 6 hitters look ready to wreak more havoc on the Indians tomorrow.
   9. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: November 02, 2016 at 01:07 AM (#5341174)
I think I mentioned it in the chatter, but for as awesome the atmosphere was at Wrigley, I'm a bit relieved for the Cubs to be back on the road.

Games 3 and 4 were the first time all post-season where it felt like maybe the moment was affecting at least a handful of players in a negative way. I obviously have nothing substantial to back it up, but the Cubs just seem a bit more at ease when it's theoretically them against the world.
   10. Kiko Sakata Posted: November 02, 2016 at 01:19 AM (#5341176)
That was great!

I feel really good about Game 7. The Cubs' big bats have woken up, they've already seen Kluber twice before, and he'll be tired. The adrenaline may help Kluber early, but I like the chances of the Cubs' bats finally getting to him. I thought Maddon was insane to go to Chapman as early as he did, but unless his ankle swells up on him, he threw few enough pitches that I don't think it'll matter.

That said, it's baseball and anything can happen in baseball, especially in one game. Should be awesome!
   11. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: November 02, 2016 at 01:27 AM (#5341179)
Wow. You guys should just enjoy every moment. Just wow. I can't believe 2 of the longest suffering franchises are going to settle this with one game. Just crazy, fun stuff. Most of us none Cub or Indian fans are just enjoying the ride. I'm sure you guys would love to see a 7 run first, but the rest of us would love a good 4-3 11 inning contest. Which of course the Cubs will lose on a homer given up by Chapman in the bottom of the 11th because he was too tired to go 2.1 innings tomorrow as he was overused today! Zing!
   12. Meatwad needs baseball Posted: November 02, 2016 at 01:30 AM (#5341180)
Alright, unless any of you guys are going to clevelnd I have my way there and back figured out. But if you are driving let me know i can throw in with yaon gas and what not.
   13. The Yankee Clapper Posted: November 02, 2016 at 02:10 AM (#5341183)
. . . if anyone is going to cleveland tomorrow . . .

It won't be cheap - Massive Spike In Game 7 Ticket Prices:
After the Cubs' three-run first inning on Tuesday night, the asking prices jumped seven percent to $4,200 and the sale prices jumped 17 percent to $2,110 apiece. By game's end, the average asking price had jumped 19.8 percent and the average sale was up by 56.4 percent.

"A pair of seats is costing fans $2,000 per ticket, after fees," said Patrick Ryan, co-founder of Eventellect, a resale market ticket distribution company. "That is more than the 'get in price' for eight of the past 10 Super Bowls. It's unique, but it's the number most industry insiders would expect the get in for a Cubs Game 7 to be."

On StubHub, the most expensive tickets bought on Tuesday for Wednesday night's closing World Series game were $19,500 each for a pair by the Cubs dugout, where most of the bigger purchases were made. Tickets 10 to 15 rows up from those front-row seats, which have a face value of $300, were selling for $4,500 on the open market.
. . .
The Cubs' big win in Game 6 led to a spike in the price of tickets for Wednesday's Game 7 in Cleveland. Ezra Shaw/Getty Images When informed of the prices of Game 7 tickets, Cubs catcher David Ross, who said he will retire at season's end, saw an opportunity for himself. "Can I sell mine?" Ross asked. "I'm going to be looking for a job after tomorrow."

When Game 6 ended in a 9-3 Cubs win, the median paid ticket price on StubHub for Game 7 was $1,900. That was up $450 from Game 5 at Wrigley Field in Chicago and up roughly $900 from Game 6 at Progressive Field in Cleveland.

That article is a few minutes old; prices might be higher now.
   14. Meatwad needs baseball Posted: November 02, 2016 at 03:01 AM (#5341184)
I wont buy a ticket, i just want to be there when it ends.
   15. Man o' Schwar Posted: November 02, 2016 at 04:08 AM (#5341189)
The Cubs' 2 through 6 hitters look ready to wreak more havoc on the Indians tomorrow.

That's the hope. They really looked to be clicking today, and if they can carry that kind of offense into tomorrow's game, the Cubs are going to be tough to beat.

I don't expect much at this point from Baez, Heyward, and Contreras - Heyward's a lost cause this season, and Baez/Contreras seem to be flailing wildly at most everything. But if they can get a couple of good streaks going from 1-6, that should translate into enough runs for a victory.
   16. Andere Richtingen Posted: November 02, 2016 at 10:06 AM (#5341325)
Game 7. I could not ask for more.

If this is going to happen, this is the way it has to happen.
   17. Andere Richtingen Posted: November 02, 2016 at 10:10 AM (#5341331)
Oh, and moderate rain is forecast to begin in Cleveland at 11 PM local time. I kind of wish they would move the start time up to 7 PM Eastern like they did Game 2, when the forecast was similar to this.
   18. Moses Taylor, Unwavering Optimist Posted: November 02, 2016 at 10:40 AM (#5341383)
All year, the Cubs have shown an ability to adjust. Adjust to a pitcher as a game goes on, adjust in future appearances against him. We saw it in the NLCS against Kershaw, we saw it again last night against Tomlin (yeah, that pitch to Bryant was a hanger, but the Cubs still took or swung and missed on plenty of curves in the middle of the zone this series). Kluber isn't Tomlin, but Kluber also isn't Kershaw.

For a guy on short rest, Kluber isn't that overworked. He threw only 31ish innings in October, which isn't that much (I think I saw he averaged 36IP/month this year). He didn't throw 90 pitches in either game 1 or 4, and there weren't many extreme high stress situation in those games. So I can't really pin any hope on him being less sharp than the previous games (maybe now that he's over 240 innings on the season is a minor hope, I guess). I can pin my hope on the Cubs adjusting to Kluber.

I think they will. I don't think he'll be able to completely shut them down a 3rd time. The big bats are all swinging well, and seeing pitches. Kluber isn't infallible. Miller isn't infallible. Allen isn't infallible. I'll be shocked if we see any other pitchers than them, except for maybe Shaw if Kluber is pulled really early.

For the Cubs, I don't think we see anyone other than Hendricks, Lester, or Chapman. Maybe Edwards or Lackey. I think Joe's plan has to be 5 (max 6) for Kyle, 2 for Lester, and 2 for Chapman. I assume Tito's plan is the same, subbing in Kluber/Miller/Allen.

Cubs win, 4-2. Rizzo HR, and WS MVP.
   19. zonk Posted: November 02, 2016 at 10:57 AM (#5341411)
Reiterating from the chatter -

I hope the hook isn't automatic with Hendricks. I.e., if he's rolling and he's got a lead, he's my guy until trouble appears... not automatically done in the 6th or even 7th.

Yes, there's no tomorrow so anyone and everyone needs to be ready to do anything and everything.

However, it's the Indians that need to lean on the pen. The Cubs have won all year by scoring runs, getting great work from the rotation, playing excellent defense, and getting what they need from their bullpen. Adjust as necessary, but this team needs to lean on what got them here. Score some runs early. Back Kyle with sterling D. Let Kyle go as long as Kyle can go.
   20. Dag Nabbit at ExactlyAsOld.com Posted: November 02, 2016 at 11:29 AM (#5341453)
Matt Spiegel ‏@MattSpiegel670 58m58 minutes ago
2 gms Maddon was a part of in his mind when he called on Chapman? 2008 ALCS gm 5; Rays blew 7-0 lead. 2002 WS gm 6; Giants blew 5-0 lead.
   21. Pops Freshenmeyer Posted: November 02, 2016 at 12:46 PM (#5341557)
If this is going to happen, this is the way it has to happen.

My sentiments exactly. I had lingering doubts all season because it felt like the Cubs couldn't win the WS as the consensus overdog. Getting down 3-1 in the world series and storming back somehow feels right.
   22. Kiko Sakata Posted: November 02, 2016 at 12:55 PM (#5341565)
I hope the hook isn't automatic with Hendricks. I.e., if he's rolling and he's got a lead, he's my guy until trouble appears... not automatically done in the 6th or even 7th.


Agree completely. Frankly, I'm not all that crazy about the speculation of "ooh, when does Lester come in?". I mean, if Hendricks is off, sure, pull him in the third inning. But, to me, best case scenario should be a Kyle Hendricks complete-game gem. Unlikely? Sure. But I hope Maddon hasn't already decided that Jon Lester is pitching the sixth inning or facing the Indians' lineup the third time through regardless of what has happened to that point.
   23. Meatwad needs baseball Posted: November 02, 2016 at 01:30 PM (#5341613)
If kyle is kyle than he should be able to go 7 tonight.
   24. Moses Taylor, Unwavering Optimist Posted: November 02, 2016 at 01:35 PM (#5341629)
But I hope Maddon hasn't already decided that Jon Lester is pitching the sixth inning or facing the Indians' lineup the third time through regardless of what has happened to that point.

I dunno if anyone is saying that to that extreme; at the same time, I'd rather there's a couple planned options out there. Yes, I want Maddon to trust his gut, but he might be making a clearer decision now in planning than in the heat of the moment. He just has to balance the plan/impulse when the time comes.
   25. Man o' Schwar Posted: November 02, 2016 at 03:47 PM (#5341795)
Maddon was good about leaving Hendricks in against the Dodgers when he looked so good - IIRC, he pitched into the 8th.

Man, if Hendricks has another game like that in him, this would be one of the all-time impressive post-season pitching performances, beating Kershaw to win the LCS and then beating Kluber to win the WS.
   26. Eric J can SABER all he wants to Posted: November 02, 2016 at 05:09 PM (#5341929)
Man, if Hendricks has another game like that in him, this would be one of the all-time impressive post-season pitching performances, beating Kershaw to win the LCS and then beating Kluber to win the WS.

It's the second consecutive series in which Hendricks's first start was a 1-0 loss for the Cubs, and his second start comes in a potential clincher in which the opposing starter won the Cy Young in 2014.

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