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Hall of Merit— A Look at Baseball's All-Time Best
Monday, July 25, 2005
1957 Ballot Discussion
1957 (August 8)—elect 2
WS W3 Rookie Name-Pos (Died)
387 123.9 1936 Joe DiMaggio-CF (1999)
277 100.3 1939 Lou Boudreau-SS (2001)
281 98.3 1937 Bobby Doerr-2B (living)
237 68.2 1935 Wally Moses-RF (1990)
218 67.0 1939 Charlie Keller-LF (1990)
139 46.3 1943 Snuffy Stirnweiss-2B (1958)
145 43.6 1938 Sam Chapman-CF (living)
120 33.3 1943 Jim Russell-LF (1987)
108 36.2 1940 Danny Litwhiler-LF (living)
101 38.1 1935 Ray Mueller-C (1994)
108 31.9 1942 Hank Borowy-P (2004)
094 37.1 1939 Buddy Rosar-C (1994)
1957 (July 31)—elect 2
HF% Career Name-pos (born) BJ – MVP - All-Star
20% 37-55 Buck O’Neil-1B (1911) #4 1b 0 - 1*
16% 38-51 Max Manning-P (1918)2.5 - 1*
00% 42-51 Jim LaMarque-P (1921)2 - 3*
00% 38-53 Lester Lockett-3B/OF (1912) 1 - 3*
00% 33-51 Parnelle Woods-3B (1912) 0- 4*
00% 37-53 Henry Kimbro-CF (1912) 0 - 3*
00% 37-51 Lenny Pearson-OF (1918) 0 - 3*
Players Passing Away in 1956
HoMers
Age Elected
54 1946 Al Simmons-LF/CF
Candidates
Age Eligible
93 1902 Connie Mack-C/Mgr
83 1912 Kip Selbach-LF
82 1914 Jesse Tannehill-P
82 1914 Jimmy Slagle-CF
79 1915 Harry Howell-P
79 1916 Ginger Beaumont-CF
77 1919 Tom Hughes-P
73 1922 Solly Hofman-CF
67 1926 Fred Merkle-1b
65 1926 Buck Weaver-SS/3b
56 1940 John Beckwith-SS/3b
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The value of an IP is what it is. It doesn't know who threw it.
As Karl says, it's a matter of who gets responsibility for the outs. Pitchers throw fewer innings now because the work harder on every at bat, and part of the reason that they work harder is because they make more of the difference: more K's, more home runs, less variation in fielding talent behind them all mean that more responsibility for run prevention rests with pitchers.
Has anybody given thought to some sort of quantitative measure of how much more responsibility the pitcher has for differential outs today? (I say "differential outs" because as fielding gets better you could argue that the fielders are more important and the pitchers less; the retort being that, yes, but that's the same for most pitchers [the ones who don't have Derek Jeter behind them at SS ;-)]).
Just for the record, I gave 50 percent of pitching WS pre-1893 to fielders. After that I treat them all the same. What specific adjustments would you make? How has the change progressed through the decades?
To answer that, based on Chris' comment, you'd have to factor in all the DIPs factors plus the changes in differential fielding rates, right? Any other factors? Anybody got a formula for that?
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