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Hall of Merit— A Look at Baseball's All-Time Best
Sunday, September 04, 2005
1959 Results: You Can Look Back, It’s Just Satchel and the Big Cat Gaining on the Hall of Merit!
In his first year of eligibility, the most legendary star of the Negro Leagues, Satchel Paige, easily gained induction with 97% of all possible points. He is the HoM’s 21st Negro League inductee to date.
Another first-year inductee was famed slugging first baseman Johnny Mize , who was close behind Paige with 95% of all possible points.
Breaking the record from the last election, there were 73 candidates who received at least one vote
Rounding out the top-ten were: Joe Medwick, Red Ruffing, Hughie Jennings, Biz Mackey, Wes Ferrell, Earl Averill, Eppa Rixey, and Clark Griffith.
RK LY Player PTS Bal 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 n/e Satchel Paige 1090 46 38 7 1 2 n/e Johnny Mize 1069 47 7 37 2 1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3 4 Joe Medwick 375 30 3 4 3 2 2 2 3 1 1 4 4 1 4 6 Red Ruffing 367 28 3 2 4 2 2 3 3 2 2 2 2 1 5 5 Hughie Jennings 363 25 1 6 4 4 1 2 1 1 3 2 6 7 Biz Mackey 315 27 1 1 1 5 3 2 6 2 2 1 1 2 7 8 Wes Ferrell 313 24 3 3 2 3 1 1 1 3 2 2 1 1 1 8 9 Earl Averill 288 24 1 3 3 2 2 2 1 3 2 1 2 2 9 10 Eppa Rixey 277 23 3 1 2 3 1 2 1 1 2 1 4 2 10 11 Clark Griffith 269 20 5 2 1 1 1 1 2 1 1 2 3 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11 12 George Sisler 244 19 1 3 3 1 1 3 2 2 1 1 1 12 15 George Van Haltren 229 17 2 2 3 1 2 1 1 2 1 2 13 19 Cool Papa Bell 217 17 1 3 1 2 2 2 4 1 1 14 14 Jake Beckley 216 17 2 5 1 1 2 1 1 3 1 15 16 Cupid Childs 195 18 2 3 2 1 2 2 3 3 16 13 Willard Brown 192 19 1 1 1 3 1 3 1 2 2 4 17 22 Joe Sewell 191 17 2 1 1 2 1 2 1 1 2 2 2 18 20 Bobby Doerr 172 13 1 2 2 2 2 1 2 1 19 17 Hugh Duffy 171 13 1 1 3 3 3 1 1 20 21 Mickey Welch 166 11 1 2 1 1 3 1 1 1 21 18 Pete Browning 156 13 2 1 1 1 1 2 2 2 1 22 23 Dobie Moore 155 12 1 2 2 1 1 2 2 1 23 24 Cannonball Dick Redding 151 13 1 1 1 2 1 1 2 2 2 24 26 José Méndez 143 12 1 2 2 2 1 3 1 25 27 Bucky Walters 128 10 2 1 1 1 1 2 1 1 26 25 Alejandro Oms 115 9 2 1 1 1 1 1 2 27 35 Tommy Leach 110 9 1 1 1 2 2 1 1 28 29 Joe Gordon 108 11 1 1 2 2 1 1 3 29 30 Gavy Cravath 104 8 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 30T 33 Roger Bresnahan 97 9 2 1 1 1 1 1 2 30T 32 Rube Waddell 97 9 1 1 1 1 2 3 32 28 Charley Jones 97 8 1 1 1 1 2 1 1 33 37 Edd Roush 96 10 1 1 1 2 3 1 1 34 34 Wally Schang 96 8 1 1 1 1 1 2 1 35 31 Burleigh Grimes 95 8 1 1 1 1 1 2 1 36 n/e Bob Elliott 77 8 1 1 3 2 1 37 36 Larry Doyle 66 5 1 1 1 1 1 38 48 Quincey Trouppe 58 5 1 1 1 1 1 39 39 Bill Monroe 56 6 1 1 2 2 40 44T Jimmy Ryan 52 6 1 1 1 3 41T 38 Dizzy Dean 50 4 1 1 1 1 41T 41 John McGraw 50 4 1 2 1 43 40 Bob Johnson 48 5 1 1 1 2 44 46 Ben Taylor 42 4 1 2 1 45 44T Tommy Bridges 41 4 1 2 1 46 47 Dizzy Trout 40 3 1 1 1 47 42 Charlie Keller 37 4 2 1 1 48 53 Sam Rice 36 4 2 1 1 49 43 Ernie Lombardi 35 3 1 1 1 50 49 Ed Williamson 34 4 1 1 1 1 51 n/e Luke Easter 31 2 1 1 52 n/e Dutch Leonard 28 2 1 1 53T 50T Addie Joss 24 2 1 1 53T 52 Chuck Klein 24 2 2 55 66T Carl Mays 23 2 1 1 56 n/e Bobo Newsom 21 2 1 1 57 55 George J. Burns 18 2 1 1 58 54 Pie Traynor 16 1 1 59 56 Dom DiMaggio 15 2 1 1 60T 57 Ed Cicotte 15 1 1 60T 58T Fielder Jones 15 1 1 62T 58T Tommy Bond 14 1 1 62T 60T Bobby Veach 14 1 1 64T 64 Dolf Luque 13 1 1 64T 60T Leroy Matlock 13 1 1 66 62T Dick Lundy 12 2 2 67 50T Vic Willis 12 1 1 68 65 Fred Dunlap 10 1 1 69 66T Lefty Gomez 9 1 1 70 62T Hack Wilson 7 1 1 71T n/e Frank Chance 6 1 1 71T 66T Sam Leever 6 1 1 71T 69T Rabbit Maranville 6 1 1 Dropped Out: Wilbur Cooper(69T), Sam Jethroe(69T).
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1. John (You Can Call Me Grandma) Murphy Posted: September 06, 2005 at 12:05 AM (#1599044)BTW, since I never received any results from any of the other ballot counters, there may be some errors. Paige and Mize will still be first and second, though. :-)
Doerr over Gordon again? Oms and Brown do worse?!
(sigh)
Carl Mays moved up 11 spots and Quincy Trouppe 10 among the also-rans.
Tommy Leach gained 8 among the dark horses.
Cool Papa Bell and Joe Sewell gained 6 among contenders.
The losers were Vic Willis (-17) and Willard Brown (-6), the latter possibly dropping from among the contenders to the dark horses?
In the top 10, Ruffing jumped Jennings, which could matter soon enough, certainly in the next decade, if (of course) it stays that way.
Uh, well, er...
...at any rate, it wasn't me! :-)
Jennings just missed more elect-me slots than Ruffing did. With no "no brainer" candidates next year Jennings should move back over Ruffing.
Probably even just a tad more of a shock than Biz Mackey and Wes Ferrell in the top 10.
The method is as follows.
1) Assume that we elect, say, 5 players from the backlog so that everybody moves up 5 places, and the #16-20 "votes" become #11-15 votes.
2) Move up #3-5 votes to elect me slots.
3) Move everything else up 5 slots, including the #16-20s.
The problems with this method are many, including that the players who would be elected and clear the ballot would include 5 of the above, whereas I leave them all on the ballot. Also, the specific impact on individual players would depend on who got elected and where they are on individual ballots, though that is going to be a difference of 1 or 2 points here or there. The biggest problem is that of the 47 ballots, I only have #16-20 for (I think it was) 14 of them, though I have partials and estimateds from another dozen or so that were ambiguous but provided some information. So best case I have about half the data needed, and so I doubled the points earned by #16-20 "votes."
So there's more than just "plenty" of caveats about this, it's just for fun.
For Joe Medwick, the new hypothetical total is as follows.
Medwick 375 (existing) + (10x4 new elect-me slots) + (2.5x10 is how far up those 10 votes move excluding the elect-me bonus) + (20 x 5 as all his other ballots move up 5 slots) + 27 (how many points he earns in actual #16-20 moving up to #11-15) + another 27 for the missing data = 594
Here are the rest in order of placement 1959:
Ruffing (was 367) projected 586
Jennings 554
Mackey 523
Ferrell 543 (passes Mackey)
Averill 543 (passes Mackey, ties Ferrell)
Rixey 513
Griffith 425
Sisler 404
Van Haltren 358
Bell 363 (passes Van Haltren)
Beckley 361 (passes Van Haltren)
Childs 348
Sewell 314
Browning 308
Doerr 355 (passes Childs, Sewell, Browning)
W. Brown 279
Duffy 345 (passes Sewell, Browning, Brown)
Welch 222
D. Moore 220
Redding 285 (passes Welch, Moore, Brown)
Mendez 260 (passes Welch and Moore)
Walters 240 (passes Welch and Moore)
Oms 216
Leach 191
Gordon 280 (passes Welch, Moore, Mendez, Walters, Oms, Leach)
That's as far as I went. The big winners in #16-20 votes alone (some of the shifts relates to elect-me bonuses, of course) are Averill, Duffy, Gordon, Doerr and Rixey.
>(sigh)
But, John, look who is the highest rated 2B!
dan b: +9.5
DanG: +8.2
andrew siegel: +7.0
OCF: +6.6
Adam Schafer: +6.6
...
Chris J: +1.7 (median)
...
karlmagnus: -4.6
John Murphy: -5.1
Patrick W: -5.3
Rusty Priske: -10.1 (That's who left off Satchel)
yest: -10.2 (Paige and Mize as 3-4 instead of 1-2)
Gadfly: -10.7 (The lowest vote for Mize)
Browning and Brown are my new Beckwith and Beckley. Thanks, OCF.
John Murphy: -5.1
That's about what I thought. I knew I wasn't going to be the outlier, though. :-)
But, John, look who is the highest rated 2B!
Yeah, I did notice that, Marc. :-)
No, you're thinking of El Gato Grande. :-)
I'll pay better attention to the dates for the 1960 election as EVERY vote / EVERY spot on a ballot will matter this time. No foregone conclusions this time.
Yeah, a while back someone went back and checked for players who got votes on all 15 ballot slots in a year. Stan Hack did it last year. It often occurs fairly well down the ballot, too, if I recall correctly, someone did it outside of the top ten one year (I want to say Cupid Childs?). Anyhow, yet another cool thing to track in HOM elections. :-)
It would be nice for easy reference. Something like:
Beckley finally moves into 3rd place
JENNINGS 16533
VAN HALTREN 15565.5
BECKLEY 14966
DUFFY 14930.5
GRIFFITH 13920
Pike 13399
BROWNING 12920.5
Thompson 12349
Bennett 11503
WADDELL 11468
WELCH 10872
Caruthers 10704
CHILDS 10768
RYAN 10602.5
Beckwith 9920
H Stovey 9576
Start 8378.5
McGinnity 8232
Pearce 8073
McVey 7985.5
Grant 7969.5
Suttles 7696
RIXEY 7624
BRESNAHAN 7501
T LEACH 7307
(Sisler 7079, C Jones 6393, Sewell 5714, Monroe 5263, Ferrell 5212, Doyle 4394, Roush 4372, Williamson 4323, Redding 4268, Mendez 4231)
(I'll doublecheck Averill next year)
Dropped Out: Wilbur Cooper(69T), Sam Jethroe(69T).
Ballots Cast: 47.
I could be wrong, but I think the small-font output is actually autogenerated by Evan's Amazing Ballot Counter. Maybe we could submit a feature enhancement request to Evan.
In some years that is kinda tricky.
Now, why didn't I think of that...
New version of the ballot counter available in the Yahoo groups site.
Mize also confounds my hitting 'regulars' syste (until I tweak it). He (barely) played more than half his team's games in 1952-53, but batted only 137 and 104 times. This is the first 'pure pinch hitter' season we've elected.
Red Faber -- 1932-33?
Whew, tough crowd! ;)
Ditto.
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