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Monday, December 12, 2005

1967 Ballot Discussion

1967 (December 26)-elect 2
WS W3 Rookie Name-Pos (Died)

166 75.6 1948 Ned Garver-P (living)
203 48.1 1948 Ted Kluszewski-1B (1988)
187 53.2 1950 Jackie Jensen-RF (1982)
184 53.6 1947 Earl Torgeson-1B (1990)
187 48.5 1942 Elmer Valo-RF (1998)
160 57.0 1949 Mike Garcia-P (1986)
180 47.7 1949 Hank Bauer-RF (living)
146 60.0 1949 Johnny Antonelli-P (living)
138 51.8 1947 Gerry Staley-RP (living)
110 36.3 1945 Del Rice-C (1983)
099 40.3 1949 Chuck Stobbs-P (living)
096 35.8 1951 Clem Labine-RP (living)
107 26.3 1952 Jim Rivera-RF/CF (living)

1967 (December 11)—elect 2
HF% Career Name-pos (born) BJ – MVP - All-Star

04% 46-61 Bob Boyd-1B (1926) #9 1b – 0 – 1*
00% 43-61 Marvin Williams-2B (1923) – 0 – 1*


Players Passing Away in 1966

HoMers
Age Elected

None

Candidates
Age Eligible

78 1927 Hippo Vaughn-P
76 1925 Red Smith-3b
76 1925 Lee Magee-CF/2b
76 1931 George J. Burns-LF
76 1931 Hank Gowdy-C
73 1941 Sad Sam Jones-P
72 1938 Rube Bressler-LF/P
71 1942 Bing Miller-RF
70 1936 Johnny Morrison-P
67 1936 Chuck Dressen-3B/Mgr
65 1940 Marty McManus-2B/3B
62 1942 Bill Walker-P
57 1951 Pete Fox-RF
55 1952 Lou Finney-RF/1B
52 1955 Mike Tresh-C
49 1959 Bob Elliott-3B

Gracias, Dan and Chris!

 

John (You Can Call Me Grandma) Murphy Posted: December 12, 2005 at 02:55 AM | 201 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   201. sunnyday2 Posted: December 24, 2005 at 06:26 PM (#1792973)
Cliff,

I was talking about Joss and Ruffing and I was just saying that between the two and their ERA+ and IP Joss was the one who had a "great" number in one of those columns and Ruffing didn't. It's not an "automatic" cut-off, it's just the numbers the guys I was comparing put up there.

karl's post #85 does a better job than me of explaining the rationale.

There are lots of short career "great" pitchers like Dizzy Dean who haven't been on my ballot, so there is a reasonable cut off. For starting pitchers it's certainly more than 1000 IP and probably more than 2000 but I just look at the actual cases that exist out there.
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