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Saturday, September 08, 2007

2004 Results: Molitor, Eckersley and Bresnahan are All Waved into the Hall of Merit!

In his first year of eligibility, multipositional star Paul Molitor claimed the first induction spot into the Hall of Merit with a terrific 94% of all possible points.

Also in his first year on the ballot, ace starting and relief hurler Dennis Eckerlsey earned a strong 77% of all possible points to become the second inductee in 2004.

Last but not least, catching great Roger Bresnahan finally made into the HoM with his 84th try. He gained admission with a weak 29% of all possible points.

Rounding out the top-ten were: Pete Browning (looks like 2005 will do the trick for him!), Kirby Puckett, Bob Johnson, Andre Dawson, Alejandro Oms  (first time in the top-ten!), Cannonball Dick Redding and Bucky Walters.

Thanks to OCF and Ron for helping me out with the tally!

RK   LY  Player                   PTS  Bal   1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 14 15
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 1  n/e  Paul Molitor            1223   54  37  7  4  3     1           1     1         
 2  n/e  Dennis Eckersley         998   51   9 21  5  1  1  1  2  2  2  1  1  3  1  1   
 3    5  Roger Bresnahan          376   27   1  3  1  1  4  1  4  2     2  1  1  3     3
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 4    4  Pete Browning            324   21   2  3  1  2     2  3  2     1  1  2     2   
 5    7  Kirby Puckett            273   20      1  2  2  2  2  3        1  1  2  2  1  1
 6    8  Bob Johnson              265   20            3  3  4  1     3  1  3  1        1
 7    6  Andre Dawson             259   19      1  2  2  2  1  2  1     1  2  1  2  2   
 8   13  Alejandro Oms            254   19      1  3  1  1  1  1  2  1  1  2     2     3
 9   10  Cannonball Dick Redding  248   15      2  3  4     1  1        1  1  2         
10   11  Bucky Walters            245   17   1     1  1  4  2  1  3        1  2     1   
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
11   12  Hugh Duffy               244   17   1  1  1  1  2  2  1  2     2  2     1     1
12    9  Tony Perez               238   17         4  3     1  1  1  1     1     2  1  2
13   14  Gavvy Cravath            234   20      1  1  1        1  2  2  3  3  1  2  2  1
14   16  Reggie Smith             230   17      1  1  1  2  1  4     1  2  1  1        2
15   15  Tommy Leach              217   16         2     2  3  1  1  1  2  2  1        1
16   20  John McGraw              194   11   1     4  2     2              1     1      
17   18  Luis Tiant               186   16         1     1  1  1  2  3     2  1     4   
18   19  Graig Nettles            184   17            1  1  1  3     1  2  1  1  2  1  3
19   21  Phil Rizzuto             181   14            3  1  2  1  1  2     1  1     2   
20   22  Dizzy Dean               181   12      4        2  1           1     2     1  1
21   17  George Van Haltren       174   12         2  3     1     3  1              1  1
22   26  Ken Singleton            171   15         1  2  1  1        1     1  2  4     2
23   23  Bus Clarkson             149   10         2     3     1  2     1              1
24   30  Mickey Welch             140   10      1  1     1  1  1     1  2     1     1   
25   25  Lou Brock                137   10      1     2        2     2  1  1        1   
26   24  Tommy Bridges            137    9            4  2        1  2                  
27   33  Vic Willis               133   10      1  1        2     1  1        3        1
28   27  Dave Concepción          131    9      2        1     2  1  1     1           1
29T  31  Orlando Cepeda           126   11               2  2  1  1              3  1  1
29T  28  Burleigh Grimes          126   11         1  1     1  2           1     1  2  2
31   36  Dale Murphy              125   11               1  1     2  1  3     1  1     1
32   34  Larry Doyle              125   10      1  1     2        1              2  1  2
33   29  Rusty Staub              123   10               1  1  1  2  1  2  1     1      
34   37  Elston Howard            122   12               2  1           1  1  1  4  1  1
35   32  Norm Cash                121   10            1        3  1  1  1     2  1      
36   35  Bobby Bonds              117   11            1     2           1  1  2  3  1   
37   41T Tommy John               100    7         1  1  1        1     2  1            
38   38  Bob Elliott               93    9                  1     1  2     1  1  2     1
39   39  Ben Taylor                89    7         1           1  1     2     2         
40   41T Dave Bancroft             85    7                  1     3  2              1   
41   40  Carl Mays                 80    8                  1     1  1  1  1        1  2
42   44T Wally Schang              75    6      1              1        2        2      
43   50  Don Mattingly             73    6   1              1        1        1     1  1
44   43  Bill Monroe               70    6                  1  1  1     1     1  1      
45   57  Don Newcombe              68    7                     2        2              3
46   44T Chuck Klein               66    5         1  1                    1  1  1      
47   46T Vern Stephens             64    5               1     1     2     1            
48   54T Pie Traynor               62    6         1              1              1  1  2
49   46T Rick Reuschel             60    5         1                 1     1     2      
50T  49  Lee Smith                 60    4            2     1           1               
50T  48  Frank Tanana              60    4      1        1  1                          1
52   52T Sal Bando                 59    5                        3     1     1         
53   52T Thurman Munson            57    5               1           1  1  1     1      
54   56  Ed Williamson             54    4         1                 1  1     1         
55   51  Addie Joss                46    3   1                       1     1            
56T  54T Buddy Bell                45    4                  2                 1        1
56T  58  Frank Chance              45    4               1           1     1        1   
58   63  Tony Oliva                45    3         1     1                          1   
59   62  Wilbur Cooper             44    3         1              1           1         
60   64T Ernie Lombardi            43    4            1              1           1     1
61   83  Johnny Pesky              42    5                     1                 1  2  1
62T  60T George J. Burns           41    4                              1  3            
62T  59  Urban Shocker             41    4                     1        1  1           1
64   60T Lefty Gomez               40    4                  1        1              1  1
65T  64T Ed Cicotte                39    3         1                       1        1   
65T  64T Lance Parrish             39    3                     1  1  1                  
67   67T Tony Mullane              33    3                        2                 1   
68   74  Ron Cey                   32    4                              1           3   
69T  70  Rabbit Maranville         32    3               1                    1     1   
69T  75T Leroy Matlock             32    3                        1  1              1   
71   77  Jack Quinn                31    3            1                             2   
72T  72  Jack Clark                29    3               1                          1  1
72T  69  Al Rosen                  29    3                           1     1        1   
74   73  Frank Howard              28    3                           1        1     1   
75   80  Bruce Sutter              27    3                              1  1           1
76   67T Jimmy Ryan                27    2                  1        1                  
77   79  Bobby Veach               26    3                                    2  1      
78   75T Jim Kaat                  24    2                           2                  
79   71  Bill Mazeroski            22    2               1                             1
80   81T Sam Rice                  21    2                     1                    1   
81   81T Fred Dunlap               20    2                                 2            
82T  86T Brian Downing             17    1            1                                 
82T  78  Luke Easter               17    1            1                                 
84T  84T Jim Rice                  16    2                                    1     1   
84T  84T Dave Parker               16    2                                       2      
86   86T Luis Aparicio             16    1               1                              
87   90T Sam Leever                13    1                        1                     
88T  92T Hack Wilson               12    1                           1                  
88T  89  Carlos Morán              12    1                           1                  
88T  88  Dizzy Trout               12    1                           1                  
91T  90T Fielder Jones             11    1                              1               
91T  92T Tony Lazzeri              11    1                              1               
93T  94T Tommy Bond                10    1                                 1            
93T  94T Brett Butler              10    1                                 1            
95T  94T Bert Campaneris            9    1                                    1         
95T  94T Jim Fregosi                9    1                                    1         
95T  94T Jack Morris                9    1                                    1         
95T 100  Mickey Vernon              9    1                                    1         
99  n/e  Elmer Smith                8    1                                       1      
100T 101  Charlie Hough              7    1                                          1   
100T 101  George Kell                7    1                                          1   
100T 101  Dick Lundy                 7    1                                          1   
100T 104  Gene Tenace                7    1                                          1   
104T 104  Dutch Leonard              6    1                                             1
104T 104  Bill Madlock               6    1                                             1
104T n/e  Dennis Martinez            6    1                                             1
104T n/e  Al Oliver                  6    1                                             1
Dropped Out: Wally Berger(94T), Dan Quisenberry(104), Tim Wallach(104).
Ballots Cast: 54
John (You Can Call Me Grandma) Murphy Posted: September 08, 2007 at 07:09 PM | 32 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. John (You Can Call Me Grandma) Murphy Posted: September 11, 2007 at 02:04 AM (#2519331)
Congratulations to Paul, Dennis and Roger!

The Duke of Tralee finally gets in after all of these years on my ballot. Yahoo!

Not that I'm complaing, but Oms made some surge there.

HOF-not-HOM through 2004

Meaning
all of the members of the HOF-not-HOM as of 2004not 2007.

1  Aparicio
Luis
2  Bancroft
Dave
3  Bender
Chief
4  Bottomley
Jim
5  Brock
Lou
6  Cepeda
Orlando
7  Chance
Frank
8  Chesbro
Jack
9  Combs
Earle
10 Cuyler
Kiki
11 Dandridge
Ray
12 Day
Leon
13 Dean
Dizzy
14 Duffy
Hugh
15 Evers
Johnny
16 Ferrell
Rick
17 Gomez
Lefty
18 Grimes
Burleigh
19 Hafey
Chick
20 Haines
Jesse
21 Hooper
Harry
22 Hoyt
Waite
23 Hunter
Catfish
24 Jackson
Travis
25 Johnson
Judy
26 Joss
Addie
27 Kell
George
28 Kelly
George
29 Klein
Chuck
30 Lazzeri
Tony
31 Lindstrom
Freddie
32 Lombardi
Ernie
33 Manush
Heinie
34 Maranville
Rabbit
35 Marquard
Rube
36 Mazeroski
Bill
37 McCarthy
Tommy
38 McGraw
John 
39 Pennock
Herb
40 Perez
Tony
41 Puckett
Kirby  
42 Rice
Sam
43 Rizzuto
Phil
44 Schalk
Ray
45 Schoendienst
Red
46 Smith
Hilton
47 Tinker
Joe
48 Traynor
Pie
49 Waner
Lloyd
50 Welch
Mickey
51 Willis
Vic
52 Wilson
Hack
53 Youngs
Ross

HOM
-not-HOF

Meaning
all of the members of the HOM-not-HOF as of 2004not 2007.

1  Allen
Dick 
2  Barnes
Ross
3  Beckwith
John
4  Bennett
Charlie
5  Blyleven
Bert
6  Boyer
Ken
7  Brown
Ray
8  Brown
Willard
9  Caruthers
Bob
10 Childs
Cupid
11 Dahlen
Bill
12 Evans
Darrell
13 Evans
Dwight
14 Ferrell
Wes
15 Freehan
Bill
16 Glasscock
Jack
17 Gordon
Joe
18 Gore
George
19 Gossage
Rich
20 Grant
Frank
21 Grich
Bobby
22 Groh
Heinie
23 Hack
Stan
24 Hernandez
Keith
25 Hill
Pete
26 Hines
Paul
27 Jackson
Joe*
28 JohnsonHome Run
29 Jones
Charley   
30 Keller
Charlie
31 Mackey
Biz
32 Magee
Sherry
33 McVey
Cal
34 Méndez
José
35 Minoso
Minnie
36 Moore
Dobie
37 Pearce
Dickey
38 Pierce
Billy
39 Pike
Lip
40 Randolph
Willie
41 Richardson
Hardy
42 Rose
Pete*
43 SandbergRyne
44 Santo
Ron
45 Santop
Louis
46 Sheckard
Jimmy
47 Simmons
Ted
48 Start
Joe
49 Stieb
Dave
50 Stovey
Harry
51 Suttles
Mule
52 Sutton
Ezra
53 Torre
Joe
54 Trammell
Alan
55 Trouppe
Quincy
56 Torriente
Cristobal
57 Whitaker
Lou
58 White
Deacon
59 Wilson
Jud
60 Wynn
Jimmy

*  not eligible for the HOF 
   2. 'zop sympathizes with the wrong ####### people Posted: September 11, 2007 at 02:06 AM (#2519335)
Woo hoo!!!!!!!!!
   3. Patrick W Posted: September 11, 2007 at 02:19 AM (#2519351)
Isn't this where ... we came in?

Below is our first mock HOF vote:

Rk  Yr  Player Pts Bal 1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10
1   04  Paul Molitor 276  15 4  9  1  1 
2   03  Ryne Sandberg   262  14 8  4  2  
3   98  Bert Blyleven   202  14 2  2  7  1  1  1  
4   04  Dennis Eckersley   171  15 1  1  5  3  1  3  1 
5   02  Alan Trammell   144  13 1  4  4  3  1 
6   --  No Vote   133  --    1  5  6  7 
7   00  Rich Gossage 127  12 2  5  4  1 
8   02  Andre Dawson  56   6 1  3  1  1 
9   96  Keith Hernandez  55   6 1  2  2  1  
10  97  Dave Parker   47   6    3  1  2  
11  95  Tommy John 43   6    2  1  3  
12  04  Dave Steib 43   5 1  1  2  1   
13  01  Don Mattingly 39   5    2  1  1  1  
14  94  Bruce Sutter  38   4 1  1  2  
15  99  Dale Murphy   35   5    5  
16  00  Jack Morris   33   3 1  1  1 
17  95  Jim Rice   21   2 1  1


Tommy John (7 votes) passes Dave Parker (2), though they were fairly even in Dec. '03
   4. Patrick W Posted: September 11, 2007 at 02:20 AM (#2519352)
well the <'pre> looked pretty in preview mode.
   5. Devin has a deep burning passion for fuzzy socks Posted: September 11, 2007 at 02:23 AM (#2519353)
Through the very odd coincidence of both teams getting a catcher this year, here's the latest version of my HoM-not-PHoM and PHoM-not-HoM lineups.

HoM-not-PHoM

1. Carey CF
2. Sisler 1B
3. Kiner DH
4. Thompson RF
5. Jennings SS
6. Jones LF
7. Bresnahan C
8. Ashburn 3B
9. Fox 2B

SP Foster
RP Fingers

PHoM-not-HoM
1. Leach CF
2. Clarkson 3B
3. Johnson LF
4. Cravath DH
5. Smith RF
6. Cash 1B
7. Howard C
8. Monroe 2B
9. Rizzuto SS

SP Redding
RP/Bench Van Haltren

I'd give me the edge on defense and probably batting average - they have more power in the heart of the order, and a big advantage in the bullpen.
   6. DavidFoss Posted: September 11, 2007 at 03:25 AM (#2519399)
OK... I'll admit that I don't get the "Waived" reference in the title. Is there a pun there? Just curious. :)
   7. Paul Wendt Posted: September 11, 2007 at 04:22 AM (#2519433)
Regarding the current backlog named on at least 5 ballots (5 votes):

43 of those 49 players score 10-15 points per vote.

More than 15 points - McGraw, Redding, Browning, Bridges.
With six #4 and #5 votes Bridges seems poised to move up. The other three have 5 or 6 "elect me" votes, although Redding with four #4 also seems poised to move up. Bridges and Redding may gain a little weight as "top pitcher" too.

Fewer than 10 points - Newcombe, Pesky
   8. OCF Posted: September 11, 2007 at 06:19 AM (#2519496)
Highest possible consensus score +5
Average consensus score -8.8

ronw: -1
Mark Shirk: -1
Howie Menckel: -1
TomH: -2
Al Peterson: -3
DL from MN: -3
favre: -3
Chris Fluit: -3
John Murphy: -4
...
Tom D: -7 (median)
Rick A: -7 (median)
Chris Cobb: -8
KJOK: -8
...
Joe Dimino: -11
...
'zop: -14
fra paolo: -14
Rusty Priske: -14
rawagman: -14
OCF: -15 (unusual spot for me)
Got Melky: -15
Dan R: -16
Eric Chalek: -18
karlmagnus: -22
EricC: -25
yest: -28
   9. Sean Gilman Posted: September 11, 2007 at 08:21 AM (#2519523)
Bresnahan was on six more ballots this year than last.
   10. John (You Can Call Me Grandma) Murphy Posted: September 11, 2007 at 10:53 AM (#2519529)
OK... I'll admit that I don't get the "Waived" reference in the title. Is there a pun there? Just curious. :)


Nothing that elaborate, David. Just a typo. :-)

I fixed the heading. Thanks!
   11. karlmagnus Posted: September 11, 2007 at 11:35 AM (#2519544)
Good for Jake to get some company in the HOM. He must have felt bewildered and lonely when he arrived in '98 and found it full of guys in polyester lounge suits with funny haircuts playing disco music -- all his buddies were far far away, at the other end of the HOM complex. However Jones he presumably knew of though didn't play against and Bresnahan he must have played against. Only Browning however is an ex-teammate (1891 Pirates.) Still, Jake, Charley and Roger can get that old honky-tonk sound going!
   12. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: September 11, 2007 at 11:38 AM (#2519548)
Alejandro Oms! You guys are so close. Don't give up now!
   13. sunnyday2 Posted: September 11, 2007 at 11:46 AM (#2519549)
>Pete Browning (looks like 2005 will do the trick for him!)

I'd put money on it...NOT.

I do want to urge all the anti-Browning voters to take a good long look at Kirby Puckett this year! ;-)
   14. karlmagnus Posted: September 11, 2007 at 11:53 AM (#2519551)
There shouldn't be any anti-Browning voters, just pro-Puckett (though I can't think why.) Oms however has a case.
   15. sunnyday2 Posted: September 11, 2007 at 12:32 PM (#2519569)
There aren't any anti-Browning voters?

I do think some detailed discussion of the OFers is in order--I mean, that's basically what there are, OF candidates. If Oms is going to continue his meteoric rise and leapfrog Browning, Puckett, Dawson and Johnson, I hope it is after some more analysis over these next 2 weeks.

And BTW Duffy, Cravath, R. Smith and poor old Hugh Duffy aren't far behind. Looks a lot like the old CF glut.
   16. John (You Can Call Me Grandma) Murphy Posted: September 11, 2007 at 01:10 PM (#2519595)
And BTW Duffy, Cravath, R. Smith and poor old Hugh Duffy aren't far behind. Looks a lot like the old CF glut.


Who is the first Duffy, Marc? Duffy Dyer? Duffy Lewis? Frank Duffy? Duffy's Tavern?

;-)
   17. Howie Menckel Posted: September 11, 2007 at 01:25 PM (#2519604)
Only have time for the top 10, will do the rest tonight...

all-time 'votes points' thru 2004 - those still eligible in 2005 election are in CAPS. electees are not in caps.

Beckley's dead, long live the new king Duffy (ok, he's dead, too, but work with me here)!
Duffy leapfrogs both Beckley and perpetual runnerup Van Haltren to grab the all-time lead. Browning, another star-crossed vote-getter, still is 5-6 "years" away from Beckley and may run out of time one way or the other.


TOP 10, ALL-TIME
DUFFY...... 25975.5
VAN HALTREN 25943.5
Beckley.... 25856
BROWNING... 24138.5
Childs..... 18484
Griffith... 17924
WELCH...... 17753
Waddell.... 17596
Jennings... 16976
REDDING.... 16504
   18. Dr. Chaleeko Posted: September 11, 2007 at 01:50 PM (#2519625)
Wow. I get Cobb to come to my side on Matlock, plunging him into the median, but my non-support for Eck nonetheless remands me to a Magnusian consensus score. As the old timers up here say...Hard tellin' not knowin'.
   19. sunnyday2 Posted: September 11, 2007 at 02:17 PM (#2519651)
Oh...that other guy is Tony "Duffy" Perez.

And per Doc...I just can't seem to get my consensus score down for nuthin.' In my heart, I know I am a low-consensus guy.
   20. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: September 11, 2007 at 02:24 PM (#2519658)
"Who is the first Duffy, Marc?"

Chris Duffy, 'cause he's just that scrappy.
   21. yest Posted: September 11, 2007 at 07:57 PM (#2520213)
A list of eligible HoFers
HoMers in bold
non HoMers who have non playing credit to add (or is) to their hall of fame case
all HoFers with significant playing careers are included
1936
Ty Cobb, Babe Ruth, Honus Wagner, Christy Mathewson, Walter Johnson
1937
Nap Lajoie, Tris Speaker, Cy Young , <u>Connie Mack </u>,<u>John McGraw</u>, George Wright
1938
Pete Alexander
1939
George Sisler , Eddie Collins , Willie Keeler , Lou Gehrig, Cap Anson , <u>Charlie Comiskey</u> , <u>Candy Cummings</u> , Buck Ewing , Charles Radbourn , Al Spalding
1942
Rogers Hornsby
1945
Roger Bresnahan , Dan Brouthers , Fred Clarke , Jimmy Collins , Ed Delahanty , Hugh Duffy , Hughie Jennings , King Kelly , Jim O’Rourke , <u>Wilbert Robinson </u>
1946
Jesse Burkett , <u>Frank Chance</u> , Jack Chesbro , <u>Johnny Evers</u> , , Clark Griffith, , Tommy McCarthy , Joe McGinnity , Eddie Plank , <u>Joe Tinker</u> , Rube Waddell , Ed Walsh
1947
Carl Hubbell , Frankie Frisch , Mickey Cochrane , Lefty Grove
1948
Herb Pennock , Pie Traynor
1949
Charlie Gehringer , Mordecai Brown , Kid Nichols
1951
Mel Ott , Jimmie Foxx
1952
Harry Heilmann , Paul Waner
1953
Al Simmons , Dizzy Dean , Chief Bender , Bobby Wallace , <u>Harry Wright </u>
1954
Rabbit Maranville , Bill Dickey , Bill Terry
1955
Joe DiMaggio , Ted Lyons , Dazzy Vance , Gabby Hartnett , Frank Baker , Ray Schalk
1956
Hank Greenberg , Joe Cronin
1957
Sam Crawford
1959
Zack Wheat
1961
Max Carey , Billy Hamilton
1962
Bob Feller , Jackie Robinson , <u>Bill McKechnie</u> , Edd Roush
1963
John Clarkson , Elmer Flick , Sam Rice , Eppa Rixey
1964
Luke Appling , Red Faber , Burleigh Grimes , <u>Miller Huggins</u> , Tim Keefe , Heinie Manush , Monte Ward
1965
Pud Galvin
1966
Ted Williams , <u>Casey Stengel </u>
1967
Red Ruffing , Lloyd Waner
1968
Joe Medwick , Kiki Cuyler , Goose Goslin
1969
Stan Musial, Roy Campanella , Stan Coveleski, Waite Hoyt,
1970
Lou Boudreau , Earle Combs , Jesse Haines,
1971
Dave Bancroft , Jake Beckley , Chick Hafey , Harry Hooper , Joe Kelley , Rube Marquard , Satchel Paige
1972
Sandy Koufax , Yogi Berra ,Early Wynn, Lefty Gomez , Ross Youngs , Josh Gibson , Buck Leonard
1973
Warren Spahn , George Kelly , Mickey Welch , Monte Irvin , Roberto Clemente
1974
Mickey Mantle , Whitey Ford , Jim Bottomley , Sam Thompson , Cool Papa Bell
1975
Ralph Kiner , Earl Averill , <u>Bucky Harris</u> , Billy Herman , Judy Johnson
1976
Robin Roberts, Bob Lemon , Roger Connor , Freddy Lindstrom , Oscar Charleston
1977
Ernie Banks ,Amos Rusie , Joe Sewell , <u>Al Lopez</u> , Martin Dihigo , Pop Lloyd
1978
Eddie Mathews, Addie Joss
1979
Willie Mays , Hack Wilson
1980
Al Kaline, Duke Snider, Chuck Klein
1981
Bob Gibson, Johnny Mize , Rube Foster
1982
Hank Aaron, Frank Robinson, Travis Jackson
1983
Brooks Robinson, Juan Marichal, George Kell
1984
Luis Aparicio, Harmon Killebrew, Don Drysdale, <u>Rick Ferrell</u> , Pee Wee Reese
1985
Hoyt Wilhelm, Lou Brock, Enos Slaughter , Arky Vaughan
1986
Willie McCovey, Bobby Doerr, Ernie Lombardi
1987
Billy Williams, Catfish Hunter, Ray Dandridge
1988
Willie Stargell
1989
Johnny Bench, Carl Yastrzemski, <u>Red Schoendienst</u>
1990
Jim Palmer , Joe Morgan
1991
Rod Carew, Gaylord Perry, Fergie Jenkins , Tony Lazzeri
1992
Tom Seaver, Rollie Fingers, Hal Newhouser
1993
Reggie Jackson
1994
Steve Carlton, <u>Leo Durocher</u> , Phil Rizzuto
1995
Mike Schmidt, Leon Day , Vic Willis , Richie Ashburn
1996
Jim Bunning, Bill Foster , <u>Ned Hanlon </u>
1997
Phil Niekro, Nellie Fox, Willie Wells
1998
Don Sutton, George Davis , Larry Doby , Joe Rogan
1999
Nolan Ryan, George Brett, Robin Yount, Orlando Cepeda, Joe Williams
2000
Carlton Fisk, Tony Perez, Bid McPhee , Turkey Stearnes
2001
Dave Winfield, Kirby Puckett, Bill Mazeroski , Hilton Smith
2002
Ozzie Smith
2003
Eddie Murray, Gary Carter
2004
Paul Molitor, Dennis Eckersley
2005
Ryne Sandberg
2006
<u>Bruce Sutter</u>, Ray Brown, Willard Brown, Andy Cooper, Biz Mackey, Frank Grant, Pete Hill, Jose Mendez Louis Santop, <u>Ben Taylor</u>, Mule Suttles, Cristobal Torriente, Jud Wilson, <u>Sol White</u>
   22. Howie Menckel Posted: September 12, 2007 at 01:01 AM (#2520703)
('extended play' version)

all-time 'votes points' thru 2004 - those still eligible in 2005 election are in CAPS. electees are not in caps.

Beckley's dead, long live the new king Duffy (ok, he's dead, too, but work with me here)!
Duffy leapfrogs both Beckley and perpetual runnerup Van Haltren to grab the all-time lead. Browning, another star-crossed vote-getter, still is 5-6 "years" away from Beckley and may run out of time one way or the other.... Bresnahan finishes 12th, longtime running mate Leach won't quite catch him thru 2007... Walters three pts shy of being our 26th and final 10,000-pt man.... Johnson and Oms continue rapid climbs... Williamson won't have quite enough oomph to take a top 50 slot from Sheckard thru 2007.... Not his real goal, but ReSmith does climb from just off the "top 50 active" list to 44th with a big year. Staub erases MGriffin from that list.


TOP 10, ALL-TIME
DUFFY...... 25975.5
VAN HALTREN 25943.5
Beckley.... 25856
BROWNING... 24138.5
Childs..... 18484
Griffith... 17924
WELCH...... 17753
Waddell.... 17596
Jennings... 16976
REDDING.... 16504

CJones..... 15875
Bresnahan.. 14965
TLEACH..... 14183
Sisler..... 13892
Pike....... 13399
Sewell..... 12769
Mendez..... 12555
RYAN....... 12478.5
Thompson... 12349
Roush...... 12005

Bennett.... 11503
Moore...... 10904
Rixey...... 10789
Caruthers.. 10704
CRAVATH.....10524
WALTERS......9997
Beckwith.... 9896
HStovey......9576
DOYLE....... 9222
Mackey.......8930

GRIMES.......8682
Start........8378.5
McGinnity....8232
DPearce......8073
BJOHNSON.....8036
McVey........7985.5
FGrant.......7969.5
Kiner........7746
OMS..........7741
Suttles......7690
NFox.........7587

Trouppe......7494
BMONROE......7330
WFerrell.....7259
CBell........6968
MCGRAW.......6947
Galvin.......6585
Keller.......6424
SCHANG.......6381
Sheckard.....6377

Others in active top 50
Williamson 6153, Willis 5191, Dean 4869, Elliott 4459, Joss 4441, Bridges 3955, BTaylor 3922, FChance 3538, CMays 3258, Traynor 3190, McCormick 3148x, SRice 3082, NCash 3079, Cepeda 3061, Rizzuto 3015, Cicotte 2988, TPerez 2985, Tiernan 2692X, FJones 2565, Brock 2492, Veach 2285, Klein 2269, Tiant 2204, GJBurns 2195, Stephens 2136, EHoward 2127, Mullane 2110, ReSmith 1950, Dunlap 1948, Lombardi 1940, BoBonds 1920, Poles 1842X, Hooper 1792X, Staub 1788

(just missed)
Singleton 1710, Bancroft 1693, Nettles 1649, Lundy 1561 (BClarkson 1300)
   23. DanG Posted: September 12, 2007 at 04:19 PM (#2521358)
HoMers With 40+ Years Until Election

106 Charley Jones
86 Jake Beckley
84 Roger Bresnahan
82 Cupid Childs
71 Rube Waddell
61 Edd Roush
60 Clark Griffith
60 Dobie Moore
54 José Méndez
53 Hughie Jennings
47 Joe Sewell
44 George Sisler
43 Lip Pike
40 Charlie Keller
   24. Paul Wendt Posted: September 12, 2007 at 05:04 PM (#2521424)
Moore represents one extreme for he dropped off every ballot. (Similarly, Oms debuted with no support.)
Waddell and Sewell represent another extreme, the comeback.
   25. DL from MN Posted: September 12, 2007 at 05:16 PM (#2521438)
Who has the best rate (pts/election) of the unelected players?
   26. sunnyday2 Posted: September 12, 2007 at 06:43 PM (#2521605)
Would probably have to be Puckett or Dawson, don't you think? A recent guy who has been top 10-15 right from day 1 and never had a down period. Maybe Perez. They'd be the only ones who fit that description, but is that the right description?
   27. Joey Numbaz (Scruff) Posted: September 13, 2007 at 12:26 AM (#2522149)
I think I'd rather see who has the most:

Sum of (Points/Ballots) for every year, divided by number of elections eligible for. That would at least put everyone on an equal plane. Would probably hurt the modern candidates actually, since the backlogs are a lot deeper.

Not sure if there's a good way to 'era' adjust for this . . .
   28. rawagman Posted: September 13, 2007 at 03:11 AM (#2522660)
Here what I would like to see: Which currently eligible player is in the most PHOMs? My guess is Dick Redding
   29. Joey Numbaz (Scruff) Posted: September 13, 2007 at 04:04 AM (#2522693)
I would say Browning - he's got to be in the PHoM for everyone that votes for him.
   30. DavidFoss Posted: September 18, 2007 at 04:26 AM (#2529590)
OK... I finally got around to updating the master lists at the yahoo groups.

The voting from the past five elections is added with updated InductedYear columns for all previous years. I also fixed a problem with three candidates who were listed as having two FirstBallotYears (Foutz,Burns,WFoster) due to previous name conflicts. The files are named:

2004HOM_CandidateVotesPerYear.txt
2004HOM_SumCandidateVotes.txt

and are found here:

http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/HallofMerit/files/

Please let me know if there are any errors or other problems.

Also, feel free to ask if there are any additional tags (columns) that would be helpful.
   31. DavidFoss Posted: September 18, 2007 at 04:36 AM (#2529598)
One other thing, there seems to be an issue with MSAccess and some of the accented letters in the file. I get the accents from the results table (Copy/Paste).

To workaround this, a global search-and-replace on the letter pairs (á/a, é/e, ó/o, etc) can be done while the files are still simple text.

I wouldn't mind doing this on my end, but I don't know if anyone needs those accents now for backward compatibility issues.
   32. DavidFoss Posted: October 01, 2007 at 02:02 PM (#2552720)
bump for the final day of the 2005 voting

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